Alizee & English Songs....?

[bfwe1atnet]

Does anyone know if an entire album is planned in English or are they waiting for sales & radio play in England before endeavouring for that....?

Brian

:roll: :shock: :roll:

[C.P.A.]

it's not.



It would be very nice but it's not planned to do that (at least as far as I know) :P

[Xanthrax]

No not her whole album. Some songs though, will be translated. J'ai Pas Vingt Ans, for exemple. Which will be named I'm Not Twenty in English. ^_^

[Riccardo]

Mhhh she should release her album in German :lol: :lol:

[jeromegreenday]

you alizee amateurs she is doing an album with 4 english songs the rest in french a world version of courants electiques!

hope that makes u happy

[bfwe1atnet]

I have been watching Alizee since 2001 febuary & have had the most comprehensive collection of Alizee pictures & video's long before any other web site had.just cause I don't live in Europe doesn't mean I am an amateur when it comes to Alizee just very disconnected here as far a news from Her handlers.

Brian

Florida USA

:?

[Jack]

Would it be a good thing after all to have Alizee sing in English ?

[serg]

I don’t know if that would be a good thing, but if it makes her famous here in the US it would be a great thing.

[Jack]

I more or less agree, but I doubt whether she will have the same charm singing in English ... And what's cool about Alizee, when everybody's playing her songs ? Agreed she has to be popular, but only to a certain degree, otherwise she'll become too poppy, won't she ?

[Kam]

I more or less agree, but I doubt whether she will have the same charm singing in English ... And what's cool about Alizee, when everybody's playing her songs ? Agreed she has to be popular, but only to a certain degree, otherwise she'll become too poppy, won't she ?

Thinking about this in terms of exclusivity is the wrong way to go about it; no artist should be consigned to half the success they deserve merely because a few people want to be unique by listening to them. Besides, Alizée is as mainstream and commercial as you can get: Mylène Farmer for the prepubescent audience. It's just that she's unknown for the most part in western countries, but it doesn't make her music anything more than what it's already perceived as in France.



As I've said to a number of people already, though, the American market probably wouldn't work. You have to contend not only with a lot of the prejudices that are currently flinging about, but also the close-mindedness of the corporations and listeners themselves. If Mexican artists like Shakira or Paulina Rubio can survive here, it's because they're hot and because they have a solid Latin market to rely on. If T.A.T.U. can make it, it's because people like lesbians. But Alizée is French, her English would be scoffed at, and people don't know the history of Mylène Farmer or Laurent Boutonnat--which is the main draw to Alizée for a lot of fans. Her skimpy outfits could be enough to lure a handful of fans here and there, but if you're singing pop in this day and age, it's imperative to have radio airplay--and I just don't see it being given to Alizée.



Thankfully, no current plans are scheduled for the U.S. I just hope she enjoys moderate success in England when the album comes out there.

[bfwe1atnet]

You have seemed to hit the nail on the proverbial head here in Your review of possibilities for Alizee currently.She has SEX appeal definitely but POP music American style is just not there & not very forseeable in any near future from Laurent Bouttonot.I love His musical abilities but to make Alizee sound pleasing to American POP would dilute Her real self & I would never want that.To have Alizee do a song like (Shakira or J-Lo or most other "so called" Pop Stars) others have done but wouldn't cut it at all.

Brian

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[jeromegreenday]

i'm sure if an artist like celine dion took her under her wing she would crack the u.s i feel bad cause england and france are having problems and the political side of it would ruin her chances there are many closed minded people i love greenday everclear pearl jam eric clapton carlos santana chris rea u name it i like it but i work with french people and when i tell them i like alizee they ask me am i secretly a 10 year old girl to be honest sorry she one a competition and was manufactured just like blue(english boy band) to o-town(american boyband) who one competitions to get their contracts and that advert she done in japan was selling out, france must be sick of having alizee shoved down their throats because we found her and like her music were different types of fans

her video in england caused outrage moi lolita and was banned till after 9 at nite they thought it promoted phaedophiles and under age school girls if they could speak french that little girl in the club wasnt bait for phaedophiles alizee was looking after her the bloke who gave her money wasnt doing so for sex but he loved her and she didnt feel the same and he followed her to see what she was doind

i wrote to national papers to get this arguement across but they wouldnt publish it this site is great because us 10-ish hardcore fans understand her and her reasons SHIT that was deep!

[Jack]

At least I triggered some interesting discussion ... Anyway, to be a bit more complete. Of course you're right Kam when you say that every artist deserves all the success he or she can get, but sometimes bands and songs get too much airtime with as result that some of the original charm gets lost in the process. I would of course never wanted to deny Alizee any chance to another succes story, but English would up till now be a bit over the mark I guess ...

[C.P.A.]

mmm I think they only shall play good songs... incl Alizée thus !!! :S skip all the bad shit would already make a lot more space fir better promoting ... ;) my opinion

[jeromegreenday]

i've translated a couple of her songs, and from im fed up the translation doesnt work too well but its good music and if it gets her to come to london :D

[Jack]

Keep on dreaming ...

[C.P.A.]

or to Sweden ;) hehe

[loveherfromusa]

I really like hearing her in French. I don't care if I don't understand the words. I guess there aren't enough fans who feel this way. She'd have to do some songs in English. t.A.T.u does some songs in English and some in Russian. That seems to work for them, but they haven't made it that big here yet.

As far as the political situation getting in the way, I don't think it is a problem. The idiots who are rabidly anti-French are too stupid to enjoy beautiful music sung by a beautiful woman anyway.

Does anyone know if there is any following for her in French speaking parts of the US?

[Jack]

There is probably ... Look at the Canadians ! (okay okay, there not American ... but it is a similar situation right ?)

[loveherfromusa]

Isn't Canada a wholey-owned subsidiary of the US? I think there are French-speaking Americans in Louisiana. I just want her to come to the US.

[Jack]

Or you should consider visiting Europe !

[loveherfromusa]

Thanks Jack. As soon as you send me the tickets, I'll be there. I'm just disappointed that the concord isn't flying anymore - then you could get me there quicker.

[Footballer]

I think that in French Alizee sings much better than in English though the accent(stress) is already swept less up! :)

[cafctom]

Does anybody here think that Alizee would be a success in England?



Her first single made the top 10 I understand, which made her the first French speaking artist to be successful in the British charts for quite a long time. What I don't understand is why did she leave England straight away?

[Greycap]

aren't some french-speaking americans still in st. louis?

[The_Honorable]

Lousiana, manly, especially Baton Rouge and New Orleans. Don't know about St. Louis, though...

[bdoyle]

I recently purchased both CD's from Amazon.fr and was wondering if there is any Web page or forum that has all the songs translated to English. I love all the songs in French, sounds much better, but, I want to understand the meaning/words behind her song so I can enjoy them even more in French.



Yesterday is history, tomorrow a mystery, TODAY a GIFT.



Alizée is a GIFT from GOD!

[The_Honorable]

bdoyle, we've covered most songs over at the Moonlight forum, both translations an interpretations by Kam, me, and others. Here are some:

J'en ai Marre (http://www.moonlight-reflections.com/alizee/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=248&sid=f4d5c3e4342ac13297dabc444ac0a100)

Ella Elle L'a (http://www.moonlight-reflections.com/alizee/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=234&sid=f4d5c3e4342ac13297dabc444ac0a100)

A quoi rêve une jeune fille (http://www.moonlight-reflections.com/alizee/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=192&sid=f4d5c3e4342ac13297dabc444ac0a100)



You can find most of the other songs in the second album translated there, and I'm going to post a translation of Tempête as soon as I get a little time! And if I may add, unless you want a decent laugh, ignore the "Captain Gorgeous" versions! :wink:



Oh, and you can find the full hour of Fun TV here:

Fun TV interview (http://www.moonlight-reflections.com/alizee/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=390&sid=f4d5c3e4342ac13297dabc444ac0a100)

transcribed and/or translated by C3P0, Kam, and me....though if I were you, I would simply wait for the subtitle files that are coming in a very short time! :D



Hope this helps! :wink:

[loveherfromusa]

I just got an email from fnac which said the CDs I ordered from them are on the way. Again, I'm sure Alizee could sing in any language and it would be beautiful. I hope she sings more songs in English just because she would be more likely to come to th US, then she would meet me and I would be sincerely sorry for all of you who lost out.

[blitzgsr1997]

I think 20 % of a good song are made by the lyrics the rest is the performer(singer). With this said if alizee comes over to the states and gets a good producer she will have hits on her hands. :D

[Aku]

well if alizee sings in english...it wont matter as her voice is very much sweet, n kkooll..

[Nikodemus]

And when she speaks english she has that damn sexy and sweet french accent.

[Franka]

Agree!

[Aku]

i cant get alizee out of my head boy this really is making my head spin :P kekeke... hmm delicating 'kylie minogue' song 'cant get you out of my head' to alizee and to rest of her fans :D

[unreal]

And when she speaks english she has that damn sexy and sweet french accent.

I havent heard her english speaking but her accent while singing english songs is so sweet and so french :)

[a.c. ajaccio]

when shes sing la isla bonita in english, her voice is very good - i couldn't sing anything in french! Although I like her french version of j'en nai marre better, even though I don't know half the words lol!!

[unreal]

It doesnt matter for me that i can hardly understand her french/english singing.Its totally enough for me that i can hear her magnificent voice.And it isnt important for me if those songs are valuable U know :) but they are very nice,rhytmical and simply i like them very much :)

[a.c. ajaccio]

yes i know what you mean, the songs have good melodies

[Hrvoje]

She is the most beautiful girl I have ever seen.
I love her with all my hart.
I can`t get her out of my head.

[Piece Of Paradise]

Hrvoje, I think you should introduce yourself here: http://www.alizee-forum.com/lhtopic,9224,0,0,asc,.html

And try not to bring up old topics if you can't contribute to it.

[Ekasra]

She is the most beautiful girl I have ever seen.
I love her with all my hart.
I can`t get her out of my head.

great thread to post a intro in :roll: , btw you spelt heart wrong

[SensitiveOrgan00]

well if alizee sings in english...it wont matter as her voice is very much sweet, n kkooll..

It will matter. French is a much more beautiful language than English is, especially when sung.

[akajjred]

I really like hearing her in French. I don't care if I don't understand the words. I guess there aren't enough fans who feel this way. She'd have to do some songs in English. t.A.T.u does some songs in English and some in Russian. That seems to work for them, but they haven't made it that big here yet.

As far as the political situation getting in the way, I don't think it is a problem. The idiots who are rabidly anti-French are too stupid to enjoy beautiful music sung by a beautiful woman anyway.

Does anyone know if there is any following for her in French speaking parts of the US?

Yea I agree, listening to her in French makes the songs last longer. With English songs I learn the words quickly and the song gets a lot older faster. As for the political situation, FUCK CONSERVATIVES...that's all I got to say. For all you Europeans out there. Know that San Francisco has your back. West Coast and New England should join the EU.

[Señor Villa]

I think Alizée should sing some Spanish tunes. Look at the song Hey Amigo! and La Isla Bonita. :roll:

[utahouck]

Funny thing that you like her singing in English.

I tought that French accent would have ruined her chances to be appreciated in English speaking countries.

What I appreciate a lot in her songs is how she manages to translate her feelings into her voice. You can hear her being sulky, blithe, melancholic as if she were in front of you !

Very few singers are able to do that with so much sincerity.
Performing this in a language she is not comfortable with would be a challenge.

[RMJ]

Funny thing that you like her singing in English.

I tought that French accent would have ruined her chances to be appreciated in English speaking countries.
The French accent IS the thing that makes her English songs so lovable !!

Her accent is the cutest of all ! It's so incredible sweet how she pronounces some words... :wub:


:whistling: Bubbles and water.... :whistling:

[Adi King]

Funny thing that you like her singing in English.

I tought that French accent would have ruined her chances to be appreciated in English speaking countries.
The French accent IS the thing that makes her English songs so lovable !!

Her accent is the cutest of all ! It's so incredible sweet how she pronounces some words... :wub:


:whistling: Bubbles and water.... :whistling:

Yes like song I’m Fed Up. :wub:

[AimLXJ]

She sounds awsome when she says Water in Im Fed Up :oops:

[Piece Of Paradise]

I tought that French accent would have ruined her chances to be appreciated in English speaking countries.

With that French accent it makes her sound so cute and unique when she sings in English. It just sounds so different from other English songs sung by others.

[utahouck]

You're goin to make me regret not to have bought the Japanese version of her albums when I was in Tokyo last week. :evil:
I just have the French version.

[RMJ]

Ah, did you see it in stores there? Just wondering...

I got it, btw. :)

[Piece Of Paradise]

You can also try to buy the international version. It has all her English songs on it, which the Japanese version doesn't.

[RMJ]

You can also try to buy the international version. It has all her English songs on it, which the Japanese version doesn't.
Japanese version has English versions. It has same songs as International version except it's missing 3 French songs: Amélie M'a Dit, JPVA and Youpidou. It has english versions of those. Total of 12 songs.

[Piece Of Paradise]

You sure? But the http://www.alizee-fanpage.com/page.php?language=en&content=a_mescourantselectriques site says otherwise. :?:

[RMJ]

Yes, I'm sure. As said, I have it.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4075/mcejapan3ah.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mcejapan3ah.jpg)


Sorry, about partial titles... My version is still on plastic. But as you see, it has the English songs. (well, you can't see if it's Youpidou or Youpidoo in this photo... But if look some other photos or scans, you'll see it. And it's Youpidoo.)

[Piece Of Paradise]

Well I guess there must be many versions out there. Mine is the Asian version that has 16 songs, with the bonus "Moi... Lolita" track inside. But the letterings are in English.

[RMJ]

There is only one Japanese version. And you can see tracklist of it above.

There is atleast 3 other Asian version tho. Taiwanese, Corean and Chinese. I have also seen some photos of Indoesian version but I don't know if it was authentic CD or just some bootleg.

But non of the Asian version looks like Japanese version.

Taiwanese and Corean versions has 16 tracs. It's equal to international version except it has Moi Lolita as bonus tracks (like you said).

Chinese version I'm not sure. It was prolly equal to Taiwanese tho... I could check it up...

edit:
Yeah, Chinese version got 16 tracks too.



edit2:
One thing came to my mind is that the Japanese version could have actually French versions of those songs even if the names are pressed in English in covers. As said, my version is still in plastic, so I have never listened it (because international version has all the songs anyways and I have that unwrapped).

[Piece Of Paradise]

I searched MCE on Amazon and got 8 results.

[RMJ]

I was talking just about Asian versions. :)

Of course there's French jewel case & dikipak, Internation version, South American version (equal to Asian version) and some other localized version (Greek, Israeli and so on) but they are usually identical to international version (except there's some sticker on the cover with local language).

Also there's two different version of Coreen and Taiwanese versions (deluxe and normal).

And umm... Maybe some more if I keep counting...

[Piece Of Paradise]

Yeah, you're right. Anyways the more versions the better for Alizée to spread her music.

[Julian]

I'm gonna get MCE but i'm not sure which version to get...

i'm not too big on the English versions, but it'd still be nice to have them on a CD.

was a french edition released with them on the CD?

i'll only be buying from Amazon, Amazon FR or an HMV site.

[RMJ]

If you want the English songs then buy Internation verion of MCE from amazon.de or amazon.co.uk

French version does not have them.

Amazon.fr might sell International MCE, too, but it will be imported and will be much more expensive than buying from .de or .co.uk

Int MCE from Amazon.co.uk (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008Y4HP/qid=1144460083/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-8315043-7189403)
Int MCE from Amazon.de (http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008Y4HP/qid=1144460155/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl/302-3944002-3424056)

[Lía]

or you can get both versions???


:mrgreen: :cheesy:

(i know it'll cost more but it's worth it :D)

oooh, was there a korean version of MCE?

[RMJ]

oooh, was there a korean version of MCE?
Yeah, that's what I ment when saying Coreen version. :)

Alizée has bad influence on me. I can't write English anymore without mixing it to French. :(

Corée = Korea in French. :)

Korean (deluxe) version looks like this:
http://eil.com/newGallery/Alizee-Mes-Courants-Elec-318248.jpg

It's pretty much equal to Taiwanese (deluxe) edition. Only some differencies with the extra stuff included in it (lyric and photo cards).

That is what you often hear to be referred as the 'asian' version. When in fact, there's several of them (but they are very similar).

[Julian]

Actually i think i'll just got the french edition first, i cant really afford to get too much stuff....

which cover is the french edition?

the one with the giant shoe ou the one of her face? :?:

[RMJ]

Actually i think i'll just got the french edition first, i cant really afford to get too much stuff....

which cover is the french edition?

the one with the giant shoe ou the one of her face? :?:
It's same for all. So yeah, it's with giant shoe. French version looks like this:
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008NR5X/qid=1144550456/sr=8-7/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i7_xgl15/402-6196977-1925710

( International version has white border going around the front cover. Asian/South American version has red border, like in the image I posted above. )

Do you have Gourmandies already ? If you don't have and are going to buy that too, then best choice would be buy MCE & Gourmandises together:
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008NR5X/qid=1144550456/sr=8-7/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i7_xgl15/402-6196977-1925710
It has normal French versions. They are slipped in cartidge case shown on the page.

[Julian]

oooh!
so its like a double play??

so its basically both original cd/cases in a box?

i'll get that...thanks :D

and yeah i dont have Gourmandises. Not my favourite cd, but its got some good tracks :wink:

thanks again :cheesy:

Edit:

its only 34.7659 AUD :D !!! Thats awsome for 2 albums, normalyl a new release here is about 25 bux.

[RMJ]

Yes, it's both orignal French CDs together. Just wrapped in one package.

Here's the double pack with Jen's double pack (so you see how it looks when opened). Two standard CD cases in it. :)

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5373/doubles6iq.th.jpg (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doubles6iq.jpg)

[fallenONE]

Yes, it's both orignal French CDs together. Just wrapped in one package.

Here's the double pack with Jen's double pack (so you see how it looks when opened). Two standard CD cases in it. :)

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5373/doubles6iq.th.jpg (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doubles6iq.jpg)



:shock: :thumbup: :boff: :dribble: :dribble: :dribble: :dribble:


Man !!

[Ange]

What do the inside of the cd covers look like. Is there alot of pictures of Alizee. Is there lyrics and thank you's ?

[RMJ]

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/4919/cds1iq.th.jpg (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cds1iq.jpg)

Upper one is MCE, lower one is Gourmandises. The Gourmandises in the photo is digipak edition (not normal plastic case) but it has same booklet and the CD itself is equal (just the case itself differs).

MCE has 8 pages booklet, Gourmandises has 6 pages bookles. And yea, there's photos. Similart to those showed in my photo. You can find them all from gallery, I guess. And yeah, they got lyrics for all the songs.

[Julian]

cool, thanks :)

ooh and on amazon.fr you can buy the doulbe pack with En Concert for only 42 Euros!! :D

[Hrvoje]

Great wallpapers RMJ

[staos]

Great shots RMJ. Especially the Jenifer cds. Makes me wish I could jump out the window and get them myself...

[RMJ]

Great shots RMJ. Especially the Jenifer cds. Makes me wish I could jump out the window and get them myself...
You can't have them!

[Ange]

I was thinking of not getting her albums butnow I just have to since she's coming back with a new album. I hope its more mature and she sings about being a mom, having a song for anily would be so sweet.

[RMJ]

There could be such song. But not necessary since she doesn't like so much talking about her private life. Song about her baby might interpret it.

But then again, many other mother singer has done that kind of songs. So why not her, too. It's great way to show one's love to someone. Music is powerful way to express feelings.

[jetsonic]

It would be interesting to hear what she sounds like singing in English but her French voice is so sexy. Anything other than her french voice and the song would sound like crap.

Thats why I like her, because of her french voice. I dont have to understand what she is saying, it just sounds awesome!!!

[HumbleHero]

I'm Fed Up was a nice song, her accent is hot and I like how she moves in the video. trully a goddess

[bearcats937]

This is my first post, but a very big fan of Alizee. But I was wondering if she has any of her Cd's in English? I know she isn't that good speaking in it, but I know she has some music videos with her singing in English. If she does, where can I get it? By the way, I live in the states.....

[AlphaDevil2]

This is my first post, but a very big fan of Alizee. But I was wondering if she has any of her Cd's in English? I know she isn't that good speaking in it, but I know she has some music videos with her singing in English. If she does, where can I get it? By the way, I live in the states.....

Welcome to the forums!

She don't have CD where all her songs is in english, however all her english songs that she had is on the international version of Mes Courants Electriques. The CD has 15 songs, 4 of which are the english versions of her songs.

[william hall]

Hey bearcats, she doesn't have CDs where she only sings in English. I assume you do mean albums. There is an international version of Mes Courants Electriques which has 3 English versions on it, Amelie, I'm not twenty and I'm fed up. You can find it on e-bay or Amazon, not too expensive either. And welcome to AF, you should introduce yourself in the newbies hotseat in General Discussion. Oops, Alpha is right, i forgot Youpidoo. :)

[Orion]

this thread might interest you, bearcats:

Alizée's plan to sing in english? (http://alizee-forum.com/showthread.php?t=18658)
http://alizee-forum.com/showthread.php?t=18658

I was almost about to merge this thread with another, after I moved it to "Alizée Discussion" , but I think it can stay as is if I don' t find anything closer to it. . .

edit:
another thread that could interest bearcats:

Do her lyrics make sense in French? (http://alizee-forum.com/showthread.php?t=18487&highlight=english+songs)
http://alizee-forum.com/showthread.php?t=18487

EDIT: haha My memory is extra good :shock:

found that thread from Apr 02, 2003 :blink:

Alizee & English Songs....? (http://alizee-forum.com/showthread.php?t=9617&highlight=english+songs)

[Stringer]

I really hope she does, she sounds so cute when she speaks & sings in english, and may encourage her to learn more! I just hope they make better sense this time, rather than "melon & water, its just a dream"

[william hall]

I just hope they make better sense this time, rather than "melon & water, its just a dream" I can't believe you just dissed my all time favourite Lili lyrics. :lol:

[Jordy]

Oh, I hope not. Yes, her English is cute, but she is French singer and French is the cutest :wub:. So, some songs with english version yes, but only english songs NO! :wink:

[Stringer]

I can't believe you just dissed my all time favourite Lili lyrics. :lol:

aww lol sorry but melon & water?
bubbly and stubborn?
the rain, the plain that makes her throw up again?

Ill admit the rest is pretty good especially as its based of j'en ai marre and it makes me get freaaaaaaaaaaaaakehhhh.. P....A....R....T....Y? coz i gottaaaa

[King69]

Her English songs are rare,really...
Then where are the chinese songs of her...?

[Amon]

I acknowledge the english speaking fans wish for english lyrics in Alizée's songs. (I just love to write Alizée, don't ask me why... Again: Alizée... hehe :mrgreen:)

However, to a non-english speaking fan like me, I just love to listen to her french lyrics. I do not understand what she is singing, or very little to say the least, but her songs just sound good in french. I hope I don't insult anyone by saying this, but in my ears french songs later translated to english just don't sound right. It's got to do with the rythm of the two languages. French rythmic music usually sounds a bit staccato in my ears, and this fits well with how the french language can be broken down to rythmic segments. English has a different flow to the words. I guess that's why this breakdown sounds a bit forced in english. :whistling:

Now, I'm not a musician, so don't kill me for saying this. It's just how it sounds to me. :wink:

[zigabric1]

I think that it mostly depends on which version have you heard for the first time, or the first few times. I know when I listen to english amelie, i go, wtf is wrong now...

[alizeefan_brasil]

if it was some musics as in "MCE" it would be good all in English I prefer that not, it goes to lose the French essence.