Do u think her breasts are natural?

[Riccardo]

Maybe we didn't see her a long time, so we can not decide about it, but it looks much more, i like it hehe...

[Xanthrax]

Hmm I don't know. There seemed to be quite convincing evidence, but I simply can't say for sure untill Alizée spoke about it herself. To be honest, I hardly care whether she's got silicones or not. It's her life, she's got to make the dicisions. If she's happieer with fake boobies, I'll be glad for her.

This is what I accidentily posted in the german forum. ^_^

[C.P.A.]

Eum ... thought about it, yes I think they are real. She became a lot more adultly afterall so why not.



I mean I don't even recognize my ex anymore :S

[serg]

:lol: To be honest I think their natural.

[Deraco]

i hope alizée is "completely natural"....

if it isn't the case, she would remind me too much at britney spears :roll: :wink:

[C.P.A.]

eum I think I can be sure about the fact that she is pure natural ... after doing a small study :P



no without kidding, look to the older pictures and look to the new onces carefully and u see that the differ is normal for one year :)

[The Mighty Atom]

ARGH! C'mon don't start this again. I HAVE SOME ENOUGH of this type of discussion.



MuzzleFlash

[Deraco]

calm down muzzle! ^^

[C.P.A.]

Relax, just do it! or something like that :S

[Riccardo]

Sometimes we all are a little bit nervous about Alizée's ... hehe u know what I mean...

[C.P.A.]

hehe, in what way ?? hehe, just kidding. Okay let's close the subject in english, then is everybody happy again :)

[Helmantic]

I really i don't know if her breast are natural, but i think this girl is simply growing up. She has make a lot of fisic exercices the last months for be prepared for her new album...There are many guys saying strange things about silicon breast of about a scar near to her breast...I really hope this is only bull-shit...I think are naturals...I really don't want a new Britney Spears or Crhistina Aguilera because Alizée is more cute, smart and sexy than this stupids without brain...See you later...Bye...!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[C.P.A.]

I totally agree with Helmantic, couldn't say it in a better way :)

[jeromegreenday]

she's only 18 and talks about enjoying her teenage years she is very confident she is not the type of girl to get implants

why when there are some phsco's on this site(hehe) like me who would be her slave for life!

[Jack]

Indeed, what if ... But she does not seem the type to have surgery ! Those who really are curious, go and ask it herself :wink:

[C.P.A.]

as soon as I get the possibility to talk with her, I'll ask her :wink:







(PS)

Sorry for my late reactions ... wan't able to reply for a little while :(

[Jack]

Can I come with you then ?

[Jack]

:wink:



BTW, some fake nudes seem to circulating on the internet !

[jeromegreenday]

jack those nudes are crap and no your not a hardcore fan u dont get to feel her tits however me and cpa should meet up in paris when she does her concert and ask her who she likes best that would set things staight maybe me and cpa could go on a double date with her i could share her with cpa cause he feels the same way about her!

[C.P.A.]

you have an awesome style ;) hehe ... who knows ?@? :lol:

[Jack]

You know what they saw about two dogs fighting huh !

[C.P.A.]

Why do you think that we made peache ?? and joined our forces ?? ;) i'm not that crazy! :lol:

[Jack]

There is of course still something like mutual attraction ...

[C.P.A.]

are u secretly in love ?? because you look like that :p



and yes there is such a thing as mutual attraction ... hope it will work out for me ;)

[Jack]

Secretly in love ... Guess I am ! Going for the shy approach, if you know what I mean ...

[jeromegreenday]

jack,jack,jack you started so quietely where did u go wrong you wont i repeat wont get to her before cpa and myself hes a great dj im in a great band so we have more chance of meeting her than u!

[Jack]

Think so ? Even if one of my acquaintances happens to be a concert organizer .... 8)

[C.P.A.]

... I'll give it the time ... SHE has to DECIDE ... not we, and by the way .. I always have some extra's :P ... nobody knows me, although some think they do (like my parents)



Good luck everyone ...





PS



Even if one of my acquaintances happens to be a concert organizer ....



Thus yes even then!

[chris27fr]

it is 100 % natural of course !!!! i'm sure of that...

[Jack]

Mmm, If we go for a drink, I promise to invite all of you ... :wink:

[C.P.A.]

that would be very kind of you ;)

[Naninou]

Ehhh... This is just a silly conversation.

Let me tell you, the only way the breasts of an 18 year old girl can still grow is by gaining weight, or getting pregnant.

I have to say that i personally wish such things as breast implants were never created in the first place, and i still don't understand why a girl like Alizée would even think of something like this. Nevertheless, i don't doubt that it happend. Alizée is happy with it, so there technically is no reason to start yet another topic about it.

Also, keep in mind that you are discussing something that is very much Alizée's private life. You are talking about Alizée's breasts for crying out loud! Aside from that you guys do this in a time when she has just released her new album...

How would you guys feel if you were a celebrity and people started to talk about whether or not you had a penis enlargement... :oops:



I don't feel any less of a fan. I love her music, and i love her image.



bye,

Naninou



-PS, i'm 16 now. If, in any case, i will have an extreme growthspurt when i am 18 that will make my boobs go from B to D in two months, without me myself growing any taller or gaining weight, i'll let you guys know. I'd consider it a miracle though:roll:

[C.P.A.]

mm, well the one things it's pure nature the other one things it's pure plastic fantastic 'to put it in a nice context' ... but we are getting nothing and comming nowhere ...





Let it as it is, don't talk about it anymore ... and when She wants to share it with us ... we will know ;)



Understood ?? hehe ;)

[Jack]

As if it only are the breasts which have grown ... But you're naninou ... what if .. and even then ... so what ? But keep us up to date ! :wink: :oops:

[jeromegreenday]

its a tuff one but i still think she hasnt she's not insecure.it is mean to talk about them when there famous but you have to accept if you want to sell records and be famous you have to give yourself to the public you cant say my new albums out get me on every show and all the airtime possible then say no i dont like this dont discuss my personnal life and leave me alone its the price for fame but in no way would i ever want to make her unhappy

[Jack]

Then share her ...

[AlizeeCalifornia]

I think to never find out is the best part of mistery and beauty. To keep the puplic wondering and dreaming is what it is all about. Yet at the same time, If Alizee makes videos anything like what Mylene Farmers old videos look like we might very well find out one day! lol .

-Brandon Miller



p.s. Please don't use Britney spears name in the same sentence at Alizee......Britney is not worth it.

[Vidas]

Who cares about breasts :x ?! She's a singer, and not a pornstar !

[Jack]

I guess there still are a dozen possibilities left over between those two positions Vidas ...

[C.P.A.]

Don't use that 'BS' name anymore in this forum ! hehe



possibilities the over... :P

[Jack]

BS ? Breast Surgery ?!? :oops:

[C.P.A.]

Britney spears



that thing!

[Greycap]

if ifs and buts where candy and nuts, what bloody cool x-mas we could have. i mean, she's just PERFECT, fake boobies or not. who cares????? it will only be of bigger interest if someone of us gets to marry her... :mrgreen:

[Jack]

if ifs and buts where candy and nuts



:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Jack]

anyway, if I would be the lucky one I would not let you have a look at her breasts my dear ... 8)

[Greycap]

i'm sure you wouldn't.....but how about a lil' touch? *rotfl*

:twisted:

nah, boy, she's mine.... :mrgreen:

[Jack]

Not another Jerome ...... *sigh* :wink:



Fortunately, we can dream !

[Greycap]

sorry, what do ya mean with "Jerome"??

yeah, we can dream....i guess that's why we're here :)

[Jack]

Just have a look at Jeromegreenday's quotes in the topic "who's really in love ..." and "who has the most chance ..." ... Some people are more than fanatic !

[Jack]

Or pretending to be of course ...

[Greycap]

:D ah, i see :lol:

ok, i did that joke, but i'm realistic. it just sounds so cool :mrgreen:

[Jack]

Permission granted ! :wink:

[Greycap]

*SALUT* sir, thank you, sir! 8)

[Jack]

at ease ... 8)

[Greycap]

sir, yes, sir! 8) i dunno....i wonder what she'd think if she would visit this topic....

[Greycap]

just hope she likes air force flyboys... :mrgreen:

[jeromegreenday]

you think i'm pretending! no i really am a fanatic!

i used to be in the army not the airforce

[Greycap]

well, that's the difference between u and me...... :wink:

[Jack]

Boys !!!!!!!!!!

[Greycap]

sir, yes, sir?? :wink:

nah, ok, i got it.....je m'excuse mille fois. :P

[Jack]

That's okay son !

[jeromegreenday]

so did you used to be in the air force or R.A.F as we call it in england or are you and jack the lad still taking the piss :?

[Greycap]

nah, to be honnest, i'm in a swiss air force flying cadets squadron, means in my college-holidays and on weekends i'm flying for the airforce cadets, and after college (in one year) i'll start the 'real' training, means officer-school, new selections, new plane etc....as you would point it out, i'm still taking the piss :wink:

[Jack]

So you're very popular with the girls my son ?

[Greycap]

ah, i wont complain, but its not because i'm a flyboy. just my best friends know i'm in the cadets. you may ask why, its just because if i tell someone (doesnt matter ifs a man or a girl) im a airforce-jockey they call me crazy or they think its like top-gun. u know, nice dress-uniform and golden wings etc. but its bloody much more than that, its work, work and again work, pressure and so on, for 2 years now. so i stopped explaining, i mean, normaly they just don't understand. sure, im proud of it, but im doing it because i love flying and i wanna do it "all the way" (and the AF is just all the way) and not to impress the chicks in a bar. thats it.

[Jack]

probably, one of my friends her boyfriend just went to Phoenix, Arizona to collect flying hours ! He wouldn't have his girlfriend visit him as the competition there was that tough, that he wouldn't have time to see her properly ...

[Greycap]

cool...must be great flying overthere...is he a AF or NAVY pilot? well, i didnt say i dont enjoy my life, in fact when my and my squadron-buddys are goin' out together, after a theory-weekend or a selection-course and the girls realize where AF-boys its quite amazing :) normaly the boys want the girls to notice them, now its the other way round. and the army pukes dont visit the same bars and clubs as we do, they'd have a booooring life there... :mrgreen: but i just wanna point out, that's not why we're doing it, its more like a "additional motivation". u know what i mean?

[coudboul]

I can't believe it ! Their breasts are 100% natural !!! I'm sure !!! :mrgreen:

[Shlax]

I think if had nonnatural breasts she would have big breasts ...

und das ist deffinitif nicht der Fall:wink:

[coudboul]

Yes, she had big breasts ! That's not a problem ? lol

[Naninou]

You know what i can't believe? I can't believe that you guys can not stop talking about Alizée's breasts. That you have a hard time accepting that Alizée probably did this, is something i might be able to understand, but this shit is going on far too long. Accept that Alizée has breast implants, or don't accept it. Either way, just shut up about it, and keep your opinion to yourself.



If you want a woman to be your personal object of perfection, go play Tomb Raider or something. I think this topic is a sexist topic. Everybody can have their own opinion, but this is pathatic.

If you want to discuss Alizée's body, do that on MSN, but don't bother fans with your male sexist bullshit. This conversation is not new, it's been the main topic in many Alizée forums since the festivalBar, and i had hoped that with the delivery of her second Album people would have something else to discuss.



You guys don't respect Alizée if this is your idea of talking about her.

Alizée is a singer, not an object of scientific study. The men here need to grow up.

[Greycap]

hey, don't fuck with us here, i mean i agree with you in a certain degree that its kinda sexist-topic, but if we want to discuss about alizées titties we're doin' it, if u like it or not! it seems u really detest this topic, so, what the f*** are you doing in here???? and it ain't nothing to do if we respect her or not, nothing. and as you said, everybody can have his own opinion. so have you, so have we. :evil:

[coudboul]

I'm french and I love Alizée ! I don't want a simple rumour destroy her carreer !

Alizée is a singer, not an object of scientific study.



I agree with you and I think she can do what she wants, but we don't know the truth... :mrgreen:

[Naninou]

hey, don't fuck with us here, i mean i agree with you in a certain degree that its kinda sexist-topic, but if we want to discuss about alizées titties we're doin' it, if u like it or not! it seems u really detest this topic, so, what the fuck are you doing in here???? and it ain't nothing to do if we respect her or not, nothing. and as you said, everybody can have his own opinion. so have you, so have we. :evil:



It has everything to do with respect. Not just for Alizée, but for women. What do you think Alizée feels when she reads this topic? Oh wait, no you don't think about what Alizée feels, otherwise you would realize that Alizée is a human being with feelings, and it doesn't take a moron to know that a topic like this could hurt her emotionally.

I do not just detest this topic, but the whole subject, since it's been going on for almost a year now. You can't honestly say that this is at least an interesting fresh topic.



Why do i respond here? Well, perhaps i was trying to knock some sense into you guys that this topic isn't going anywhere. Dumb Naninou, ofcourse. Men that prefere to talk about breasts don't ever change.

I had this vision of the future where a bunch of old men with white hair are discussing about whether or not Alizée had breast implants 60 years ago.



So go ahead and continue this "Yes or No" debate, i guess this topic doesn't end untill Alizée is forced to awnser this very private question.



Oh, BTW, there is a nice TV programme you might want to watch on the BBC tomorrow: Walking with CAVEMEN.

[Greycap]

c'mon, try to think about your own statement(s). you are comparing us, in all your wisdom, with cavemen, you're judging about guys u dont even know, just because you gotta think your personal way of thinking is the right one?! i guess that's quite ignorant, and so u are for sure not the one to tell us we're on an equal (mental, i guess) level with cavemen! just to make it clear, i respect Alizée like hell for what she did and what shes doing, i read a lot of interviews and i know she's a clever and very intelligent young lady, and i admire her for her achievements, its amazing. on the other hand, as a matter of fact, shes one of the most beautiful girls i've ever seen, and i think its just normal for men to wonder what went on if suddendly there are pics around where the woman of our dreams has much bigger breasts than she had some months or years ago.......yeah, its a quite childish, "testosteron-steered" (sorry, i dunno if its the same in english) way of looking at things, youre absolutely right, but who are you that u have ta right to judge? if u don't like it, let it be. and i never thought this topic to be a really serious one, and i'm sure neither did the other fellas (and for sure as hell we don't wanna harm someone mentaly)......for sure, this topic isn't going anywhere, but thats not the sense behind it, u see? i noticed (before i entered this topic) that Alizée had a little bit bigger breasts, and i just don't care if there real or not, i know its not my business. but when someones asking, why not telling the other the own, personal opinion?? that's why here's a forum, to discuss with other alizée-interested people subjects were interested in!

[jeromegreenday]

i hate to admit it but when i first came on the site i sounded like naninou with my c**p but ive mellowed (i hope?!)

once again i hate feeling like s**t so i wouldnt want alizee to feel like that but EVERYONE will talk about it and i wouldnt care so she probably wont she must have thought about this if she did go under the knife and women probably enjoy men discussing their titties and their new confidence i'll admit i'd like another half inch girth on the old fella!! and i wouldnt care what people would say im happy period!

[Jack]

What a confession ! Should we still take you serious now ? :wink:

[Greycap]

hey folks, wish ya all nice easter.... :P

[jeromegreenday]

merry easter! :D

[Riccardo]

merry easter , ok im a little bit late but i did it hehe

[Jack]

Gotta go and find those chocolate eggs in the garden ... :D

[Greycap]

gotta find the bunny.... :mrgreen:

[Jack]

Here it is !



http://corsalizee.free.fr/Galerie/naturelle05/nat025.jpg

[Xanthrax]

Yeah happy easter everyone!



(Why the hell was this posted in this topic? :P)

[Greycap]

@Jack: Thanks, my man, thats exactly what i'd need in my garden.... :P

@Xanthrax: I dunno, just had the desire to wish ya morons merry easter... :mrgreen:

[jeromegreenday]

do any of you believe in god are are you being drones and saying what everyone else says sorry to sound rude but i question everything it helps me feel like an individual and make sense of people and find out what makes them tick

[Jack]

We certainly do not believe what you say :wink:



BTW, didn't you tell me you had found your god on this forum :lol: ?

[Greycap]

why do you mean we're being drones and saying what everyone else says? what's the reason behind your statement?

[Jack]

Just the time of the day on which the statement is posted I guess ...

[Greycap]

:D yeah, possible......thx again for the bunny-pic, looks wonderful on my desktop now...indeed marry easter 8)

[Jack]

Chocolate and affection go together ...

[jeromegreenday]

it's like fight club or rules of attraction.no-body listens to each other we just wait our turn to talk and hope people like what we say we vote a government in,they tell us what we can and cant have and tax us more and we cant even tell them where we think our tax's should go on its a dictatorship but its called a free country no cars are allowed in london without paying £5 ken livingston is trying to turn it into the red square he's a communist i think. i see the world the way it really is and i just want to help people open their eyes like the matrix and see what is around you but my favorite lesson is ignorance is bliss would you want to see the truth if you did not like it please if you dont want to question what is around you feel free but dont hate me i just try to learn lessons from human nature and try to make my life better and bring the world 1 step closer to something i dont know what . you probably all think im an anarchist :twisted: challenge everything dont be a zombie

[Greycap]

u know, i'm happy with my life at the mom, and not just because i dont have to pay 5 bucks for my car. does that make me a zombie or a "will-less" (sorry, again i dont know if its the same in english, but i guess u all know what id like to say) drone?? generally, i dont have any probs with anarchistic (or whatever u wanna call it) thoughts, cuz i like it when

people start thinking, it's something the world would need more often. BUT, how can one try to bring the world closer to something u dont even know?

[jeromegreenday]

i agree we need more free thinkers with regards as to what we want to make the world into i assume no crime or rape and making it a happy place.one man can make a difference look at michael knight in knight rider! look at that film fraility with bill paxton god gave him a mission and he went to make the world a better place i'm not saying murder people but what if every evil doer was murdered the world would be safe and i dont think killing Evil scumbags is murder think how much evil they do and inocent people you would protect

[Jack]

You have to start somewhere, even if it does not seem to be realizable ...

[jeromegreenday]

so when i get arrested for shooting people from a clock tower. with an alizee tattoo on my arm u can say i knew him!

[Jack]

If I know it was you, I wouldn't be so sure of still knowing you actually ...

[vaady_brolen]

Hmm I don't know. There seemed to be quite convincing evidence, but I simply can't say for sure untill Alizée spoke about it herself. To be honest, I hardly care whether she's got silicones or not. It's her life, she's got to make the dicisions. If she's happieer with fake boobies, I'll be glad for her.



right on , right on bro....verry good point...I mean enough is enough.....

although she is a major hottie :shock:

[Jack]

What are you looking at with those big eyes of yours ?!? :wink:

[Greycap]

*rotfl* jack, you're great! i love this forum....:)

[C.P.A.]

Welcome to the club then Greycap!



Okay guys I didn't post that often the last days because I was quite bussy, now I discovered I have missed a lot of fun :( too bad for me, anyhow I like to react at some of the sentences above, Ill quote and react.





Chocolate and affection go together



Jack, you don't know how right you are here! damn it's 100% true.. didn't know that before thanks (did read about it today, before reading your statement)







you probably all think im an anarchist challenge everything dont be a zombie



Well it is that I know you better :wink:; and I won't become a zombie never ever!





how can one try to bring the world closer to something u dont even know?



If you don't know about it you can not change a thing! Simple is that!







so when i get arrested for shooting people from a clock tower. with an alizee tattoo on my arm u can say i knew him!





Or perhaps some of the readers here who is also very crazy about her but does not like to sit ... and makes it look like someone (easy target) had done it :wink:





What are you looking at with those big eyes of yours





I like that comment Jack





oo and

There seemed to be quite convincing evidence

She is just not that kind of girl so probably it's all wild fantacy :?:





Okay i am with you all now again 8)



comment as much as you like on me .. so we stay in touch and so be able to write more :D

[Jack]

Great communication CPA !

[kasei]

The Bobbies of alizee are natural i can see that 8)

[Jack]

What other gifts do you have ?

[C.P.A.]

However Jack, I do agree with him

[serg]

Well I agree with jack.

Tell us what other tallents do you have.

[Jack]

Well .... we don't wanna be nosy but ... How did you develop that talent anyway ?

[footballer4Alizee]

YAh really... how did you?! :?

[Alw]

hmmi think their natural, because if she go get an operation the hole france would know. I don't she likes that =) everybody who is famous in denmark is on the magasins (or how u spell it ;)) for that kind of stuff :P

[Nikodemus]

Usually the magazines that write about celebritys are crap magazines.

[BerndPfe]

:lol:



Hello there !



Quite a funny matter to disuss... Hey look:

Alizee is JUST becoming 19.

As I saw in every appearance, every video, I can confirm that

there are NO silicones. There are some photos (bikini-shots)

which show that there is a very large distance between right and

left breast.

Let me say: Siliconed breasts do not have such position, due to

the corrections what such an consmetical operation would require.

to keep them in place.

So I mean (for some well reason) she has done NOTHING BAD to

her wonderful body. If I got asked about, I would prefer to let this

go as it is. NO SILICONES. NO UNHEALTHY "BIG-TITS". Just keep

natural is the best she can do with. And I think she knows that.



Ugly matter... (Sorry Alizee for discussing such personal stuff,

but I have an opinion of course).



Bernd











:)

[Alw]

big tits + alizee = not beatiful. So i think she should her breats in that way.

[SPuffy17]

Simple answer to original question: Yes.



If she goes under the scalpel for anything, it should be breast reduction surgery.

[Greycap]

@always: she allready has some spectacular boobies ;) just wait till you're 18 ;)

[Alw]

^^

[Alexander_RUS]

Hehh... Natural or not - whats matter? Any case, I never touch it :(

[Micha]

Ok, this stupid denial is getting old....



Everybody can see that Alizée got breast implants. By now there is a whole list of evidence that makes it pretty much impossible to continue to say this is natural.



The bikini photos show that these breasts are not natural, and anyone who knows that there are new types of implants that are made to look natural, knows that what Alizée has, are naturally shaped saline filled silicone implants that were put in under the armpit, wich leaves a 2 to 3cm scar under the armpit behind the chest muscle.



Then there is the obvious evidence that last year she was seen on April 25th on the Italian MTV, looking natural, then around June 14th to June 16th she was in Italy recording the FestivalBar with her new big boobs.

That is a period of a month and a half. Now, nature can surprise is from time to time, but going from small breasts to big breasts in less then 2 months doesn't exist, certainly not when the girl is 17.

A normal healthy 14 year-old girl may grow from a small B to a big C in four months, but when a girl is 17 such extreme growth just doesn't happen by nature.

And then there is something else: Her second album. Anyone looking at this who is not a fan can see that this breast enlargement is directly connected to the promotion of her second album.



It is clear to me that the people here who say they don't believe it, only say that because they don't WANT to believe it.

Anyone can see that, although the breasts themselves look natural in shape, Alizée herself doesn't look natural with them. She is the typpical example of a small woman who wanted big breasts. She looks anatomically incorrect. When you look at the bikini photos. the first thing you see is that her breasts are too big for the rest of her body.

If these boobs were natrural, her butt would have grown also, and if it was a growth spurt caused by puberty her hips would have gotten wider.

But the way she looks now physically is quite a turn off, because she has big breasts and small hips.

Look at the scars shown by other women who have implants:

http://www.justbreastimplants.com/gallery/transax4.jpg



http://www.justbreastimplants.com/gallery/transax5.jpg



http://www.advanced-art.com/Aug/Ax-Aug6-R-a.jpg



And now look at Alizée:

http://mitglied.lycos.de/lolitalizee/Bilder/alizee178.jpg

Yuppa! That's the same scar allright. And also... why oh why do her boobs look like she is standing up, while she is infact laying down? Typpical "boobjob evidence"



I also would like to suggest to those who are in denial to have a little freeze-framed look at the programs like Pour Laurette and Top of the Pops, because everytime she is in that black Lolita sailor outfit, you can see the scars when she throws her hands in the air.



Anyone who says this is natural is in denial. Alizée has breast implants, Alizée has a boyfriend named Jeremy, and Jeremy is not hired for publicity reasons by Mylene Farmer. If you think anything else, then dream on!

[Nikodemus]

Have you considered a career in boobology?

Have you tried Liquidgeneration.com's Whoose Boobs-game. I think you would be really good in it.

http://www.liquidgeneration.com/home.asp

[Micha]

I know whoose boobs... They made a pretty nasty remark about Natalie Portman's chest. :evil:



But thankfully Natalie is one of few women smart enough to realize that it doesn't matter what bra size you have.



http://www.foutebingo.nl/fotoalbum/albums/userpics/Natalie2.jpg

[Whicked]

of course they are natural. she is only 19 and she don't need surgery...

[Aku]

micha man ..errrr.. i think you have done many experiments with the booboo'sss...dont try it on alizee...plz shove your ass out of these kinda thingz...or keep it to your self :wink: :roll:

[Marcustro]

What happen if you got Alizee see these posts?
Will she gonna be mad or just a laugh?
WOW!

Yes, She is lolita.
But I think hers ARE neutral and natural. Cos' they don't go too wrong.

[Micha]

LOL I know this is an old topic. But I can't believe this post was serious. Alizee's entire image is based around her sexuality -- her entry into the world of music was as the icon of LOLITA, for crying out loud. Her outfits, her words, her dances... she is working it at every turn, playing up her EXTREMELY bountiful natural gifts to appeal to her audience. It's not an insult, it's not sexist, and it's not juvenile to respond to the image that she has created and encouraged. She obviously loves being sexual, alive, and free, and there's nothing wrong with her fans appreciating that about her, even if it is in excruciating detail. Just because you don't see her the same way or like her for the same reasons doesn't mean everyone else is wrong. If seeing her sexual side, wanting to talk about it, etc. is sexist, then I'm sexist too, if it's even possible for a female to be sexist against a female.

Another misguided fool who thinks that Lolita is a sexual term...

And guess what! A few weeks i wrote a whole peace about it, and i'll post it again just for you:

If i could find the American son of a bitch who made people believe that 'Lolita' is connected to sex or pornography, i'd kill him.

What is Lolita? part 1:

Lolita is originally the name of a character in the book written by Vladimir Nabokov. The book is called Lolita, and it tells the story of a man named Humbert Humbert who grew up in France, and lost his first girlfriend, Annabel, at the age of 13 due to tyfus. This event traumatized the 13 year old boy, and made him search for the child that he had lost, long after his own childhood ended. The story begins when he is nearing hs 40's and is going to America to teach French literature at the college. He moves to a small town and quickly discoveres his landlady's 12 year old daughter, Dolores Haze (Dolores is Lolita's full name). He falls in love with her instantly. Then Charlotte Haze, the mother, decides that Lolita is to be sent to a summer camp, so she and mr. Humbert H. can be alone without her annoying flirtirious daughter. The day that Lo is sent off to camp Charlotte tells mr. Humbert Humbert that she is in love with him, and he takes the oppertunity to become Lolita's legal Father, and husband to Charlotte Haze.
After a few months of marrige, Charlotte discoveres her husband's secret diary, wich tells her all his secret feelings for Lolita, and also discoveres that she herself is refered to as "the fat cow" and "the obnoxious momma" in mr. Humbert's diary.
When Humbert Humbert comes home from work he finds a wife who is ofcourse rightfully angry, confused, and above all drunk and smoking a sigerette. After a short fight, she runs out of the house, while Humbert thinks he can fix this with a nice stiff drink. When the phone rings, he awnsers it, and then askes Charlotte why there is a man on the phone saying that she's been killed. He then notices that she is not in the house and that the front door is open. As he walks out he see's a group of people around a car, and a police officer askes him if he can identify the body of misses Humbert. He looks and sees that Charlotte has been hit by a car only moments ago as she ran out of the house, and she's dead.
All this while little Lola is still in summer camp.

Then since Humbert is the legal guardian of Lolita, he pickes her up from summer camp, and hits the road with her. He has been given a new teaching job, but they must travel for a while. Their relation has been flirtirious from the beginning, but this is the point in the story where Lolita seduces Humbert into having sex with her, wich is basically Humbert's sick dream come true. In one of the first Motels, Lolita also secretly meets a man named Clare Quilty who is a famous American playwrite.
As the story goes on they travel to the point of destination when they live there for some time, Lolita is asked by her school to be in a school play when she is now 14 years old. Then when Humbert doesn't want his protogé in that school play, she begins to use her seductive powers over him to be in the play, and their relation becomes more and more insane.
At one afternoon they fight over the fact that Lolita has been hiding the fact that she has not been to her piano lessons, but has been working for the school play.
She then freaks out and runs away from home, and Humbert searches through the small town, untill he finnaly finds her in a café, and they go home together and she promises to quit the play, and even says she wants to travel the country again.
As this happens, Humbert slowly starts to realize that as they travel, there is a car following them. At some point Lolita gets sick and needs to get into a hospital. The next morning when Humbert gets to the hospital to pick her up, she has already been picked up by 'Uncle Gustav'.

Humbert is then forced to go home empty handed, and has no clue who stole his Lolita, who at that time had turned 15.

nearly 3 years later, Humbert Humbert receives a letter from a young woman named Misses Richard F. Shillar. Lolita is now married and pregnant, and writes her 'father' a letter begging him for money.
Then comes the moment when they see eachother again after all that time, and Humbert see's his old Lolita as a poor young woman who is only a dead leaf echo of the nymphet from long ago. When he asks her who the man was that stole her from him, she explains that it was Clare Quilty, the playwrite.
After a semi-friendly talk he gives her 4000 dollars, and leaves.
Then Humbert goes to the house of Clare Quilty, and after a strange psychological conversation, Humbert Humbert kills Clare Quilty, and as he leaves the house, he explains that her shot Quilty to a group of people in one of the many rooms of the house, but these people just laugh at him.

When he drives away in his car he is eventually stopped and arrested. And the story ends there, with the explination that he died in his cell awaiting trial, and Lolita dies at childbirth.

That is the complete story of the origin of the name Lolita. The book Lolita is NOT an erotic novel about the dirty stories of a pedophile, but it is a psychological drama told through the eyes of a man who lost his sanity due to a childhood trauma.

What is Lolita? part 2:

These days the name Lolita is being used to describe a certain type of young teenage girl.
The more scientific term is nymphet, wich infact also comes from Nabokov's book, since it is the term Humbert Humbert created to describe the girls he is obsessed with.
What makes a young teenage girl a Lolita, is first of all a combination of several factors.

1: The beginning of sexual and emotional developing from child to woman. When a girl starts to discover her own sexual feelings. This causes the girl to get curious about sex.

2: The discovery that she has a strange power over men, regardless of the age of the men also is a factor that creates a Lolita mind.

3: A bad family situation like split parents, a depressed lonely mother or father who ruin the atmosphere, or a poor and lonely family where love and protection doesn't exist. Or a situation where the young girl actually fears her parent or parents because of physical and mental abuse.
These situation can cause the girl to look for love, protection, and pleasure in other places, sometimes even the wrong places. And thus when the girl doesn't have a real father, she'll try to fill the lack of a father figure in older guys or men, even if that meens doing things to please these men.

4: One other factor is ofcourse the look. The look of these girls is one of the most dangerous factors in the explination of a Lolita.
Because these girls are growing up into women, they start to look like sexual beings. But since they have only started this developing, they also still have the looks and, even partially the attitude, of a young girl.
The large brown eyes, sweet face, and the petite physique or small figure of the young lady, wich we consider cute and adorable, and the small figure of the young lady is now combined with the seductive, sensual and sexual look of a woman.
It is a look that not many men are able to fully resist. What also counts is the fact that many men only think about what they want when it comes to sexuality, and not what the other person wants, and this creates one of the biggest conflicts in the history of human sexuality, because a Lolita is not mature enough to defend herself against male lust and psysical power.


And this is where we get to te bottom line of your question.
Everything that i just explained is the truth about Lolitas, and it is the only real and honest truth.

Don't be fooled by the media. Don't be fooled by the internet. A Lolita is not a little slut or whore, a Lolita is not a blond woman with pigtails, a lollypop, pink lipstick and a japanese school outfit or cheerleader costume. A real Lolita can not be found on any of the sex sites wich claimes to have Lolitas. Lolitas can not be found on kiddie porn sites. Lolitas are not American singers like Britney or Christina when they were 16 or 17.
Lolitas are not in the media because being a real Lolita is really not a product or a look someone can create at any age, and if you really understood what Alizée has explained about herself, you understand that she really was just playing a role in her first clip. That was why she was in a poor family, and that was why she was made to look like someone else in Moi Lolita.


So, NO Lolita is not a whore.

Untill next time, take care of yourselves, and eachother.
Micha

[Micha]

Yes, She is lolita.

Correction: She WAS Lolita. When she was 16, she was Lolita, but 19 year-old Lolitas don't exist.

[Marcustro]

lol. You are really serious.

I check the meaning of Lolita.
That's much simple than your review
"Girls who have sexual appearance"/

[Micha]

Wrong... Because what you "checked" was a media influenced idea of the subject.

Lolitas have an aura that is sensual. It is also not something they have by choice. It is simply the look of a person who goes from child into puberty, and that is why the sensual appearance comes up... to attract mates. Simple biology.



Wherever you checked your "meaning of Lolita" is a pointless and useless source, since the only true source is a book written by Vladimir Nabokov.

[The Mighty Atom]

Stupid thread!

Shut it down.

MuzzleFlash

[Marcustro]

No, I check it from Cambridge Advanced Dictionary:

Lolita /lQl"i:.t@/ /l@"li:-/ US /loU"li:.愿/ noun [C]
a young girl who has a very sexual appearance or behaves in a very sexual way

See?

[Marcustro]

This gonna be crazy thread!

[Micha]

No, I check it from Cambridge Advanced Dictionary:

Lolita /lQl"i:.t@/ /l@"li:-/ US /loU"li:.?/ noun [C]
a young girl who has a very sexual appearance or behaves in a very sexual way

See?

Dude, like i said: Lolita is Nabokov's book. That is where it came from, that is the only source.
Ofcourse i know that there is a difference between a Lolita-type character and Lolita, but the name Lolita was created by Nabokov.
The real name for the type of girl we call Lolita these days is a nymphet.

Also, Alizée is not a young girl anymore, she has grown into a young woman, out of puberty and into adulthood. In Nabokov's terms: She is only a dead-leaf echo of the nymphet from long ago...

I'm just trying to point out that the fact that Alizée got a boobjob has nothing to do with Lolita.

No Advanced Dictionary can proove me wrong, and the basic explination this one gives is correct, but it is only a very small part of the subject called Lolita. There is a little bit more psychology needed to explain WHY a girl is behaving this way, and that is what i'm trying to proove.

[a.c. ajaccio]

exactly micha try and write something nice for once- i dare ya!

[Marcustro]

Yes. Lolita is lolita.
Nothing is going to change!

Keep Calm!

[Micha]

Ofcourse Alizée has a Lolita image. She wouldn't have a career if it wasn't for that image, but the point is that at the beginning of her career it was more then just the image, she was one.

The simple fact is that real Lolitas are have some sort of age limit between roughly between 12 and 17.

However the sexual image of a Lolita is quite tricky, because it's more hidden then mature sexual images. When looking at the clip Moi Lolita, you get a pretty good insight in what i meen, because basically all you see is a young teenager dancing in a disco, there is no nudity, and yet it is one of the most erotic clips of the last few years. There is no physical contact between Alizée and the men in the disco, Alizée wears a nice and old fashioned red dress, and yet she is very seducive.

I could never denie that the main attraction towards Alizée was the Lolita factor and the combination between cuteness and sexuality that is so rare in older girls above 18.
The awfull truth is that for nearly 10 years i have been looking for something that i lost when i was 13 myself, and that is Lolita.

The reason why i know so much about it, is because no amount of psychological studies can equal what it feels like to fall in love the summer your 13 with a girl who is completely different from other girls her age. She is more free spirited, more mature in her behaviour, and very... VERY playfull with sexuality. She became the best friend and emotional support. Then to see that best friend beaten up by her "obnoxious Momma" after a fight about the fact that she fooled around with boys in her class, is something , i can tell you, that gives you a rather unique and clear perspective on the subject of what is and what is not a Lolita. To meet a girl like that when you are 12 or 13, and then be pulled away from her by a frustrated and agressive lonely mother leaves the 13 year old boy with an emotional scar that can not heal because the boy himself was just a boy and not a rational thinking adult.
I am not Humbert, because Humbert is a man who likes taking advantage of nymphets.
Me, when i see a girl like Alizée in Moi Lolita, a Lolita, i die inside because i see a shadow of the past. I feel overwhelmed with feelings of lost youth. I want to be with her and i want to protect her, but i can't.


I know that Lolitas are terribly sexually playfull, but it is the disgusting men who take advantage of this.
What i don't like, is the fact that because of these horny men, Lolitas have become a comecial product. To sell female developing because perverts get off on it, and that makes money, and since a whole lot of people are obsessed with both sex and money, it doesn't stop.
Lolita girls should not have become a product in the media, because it is not healthy, or at least not taken care of very well.

I fear that Alizée will grow up to become a frustrated adult because some bastard decided to make money out of her sexual developing from child to woman.

So i'm sorry if i'm sometimes angry cynical or ironic and bitter about Alizée and her career.

Something friendly...

I'm sorry

Luv u all
:roll:

[a.c. ajaccio]

Something friendly...

I'm sorry

Luv u all


that's more like it!!!!

[Marcustro]

Hmmmmmm.
That's good. Everything is happy.

[Aku]

hey guyz now itz over forget everythin and lets have a kool chat and some funny jokes.... :wink: hey

Riddle) A chicken lays a egg but it does not fall on the ground... why?

(itz a cheap one but the answer is quiet funny and your laugh for hours lolz) hehehhe

so guyz whts the answer should be ? :P

[Aku]

lolz good try but let us wait for others to answer :P :D and in the end i'll answer my riddle :D :P

[Marcustro]

Who make this topic?

[Aku]

hmm lolzz riccardo lolzz.....hey forget that whts the answer of my riddle that i asked above??(guess) :D

[Aku]

k i will telll the answer :P .... lookz like no one is inyerested ...
the answer is: The Chicken was wearing a under-wear ... :P :lol: :lol:

[Marcustro]

Riccardo made this topic? Unbelivable!!!

[loveherfromusa]

I've already explained to all of you that I have the answer to all of these questions. I will volunteer to spend a few days and nights with her so I can find out the truth about the real Alizee. I know it's a sacrifice, but I will do it.

[Marcustro]

Blahblah..Blah.

You do?

[Marcustro]

So let's have the conclusion..

[Marcustro]

Micha told us they are big in the video "I'm fed up" or the French one "J'ai.....". Everyone become big when they are wet!

[Manu]

I don't think so... Some things get smaller with water and cold...

And it's J'en ai marre. I thought you had the CD

[Marcustro]

Yes. TO lazy to check it out.

[unreal]

At last i decided to write smth in here.So it will be very short.THESE are perfect/excelent.Ideal that those should be.I would be glad if my future girlfriend would have the same as well.


THE END

[Jack]

nothing to add to that !

[Marcustro]

I don't think I would like a girl who have big for THAT.

[unreal]

Dont u like them man?Those are so firm and ideal like i said.What u want from them?

So u would like to have big busted baby?For example they would look like a bag for potatoes?Oh its disgusting--bleeeeeee.

[Me]

What i can say i agree with my countryman.Potatos bag it's too big :wink:

[Marcustro]

They should be in the right size.
Otherwise, THEY become so bumpy and jumpy when they walk or run.

#_#!

[unreal]

And arent they?

[Mr.Bunt]

i think they are a bit big ... but i dont think they are too big ... i cannot say that i dont like it ;)

[unreal]

So are u one of those who is suggesting they are surgically enlarged?

[Mr.Bunt]

hm dunno ... i think yes but i dont care ;)

[unreal]

Do u think if it really is true that was a mylene idea?

[Mr.Bunt]

hm dunno ... but i dont know why she did that ... perhaps she feels better now ... if she does the surgery is ok ... if she dont it is not

[unreal]

I really dont mind.But i dont believe that.

Besides its normal that some parts of womans body growing up/increasing so why almost all of guys think the`re plastic fantastic?

[Greycap]

true, that's part of the game. but hey, as i mentioned several times before, fake boobies or not, they are just top-notch! right on the money! perfect! "da tits" or however u wanna call it *rofl* :)

[Mr.Bunt]

greycaps favorite topic ... boobies :lol:

[aphekqs]

who fucking cares?

god... i really hope that Alizee has no idea this place exists.

[Manu]

I care. And they are natural 100%.
Alizée usually posts here, but she didn't on this topic...

[unreal]

Im sure she knows this place...

and...

... posting very often answering on a members questions,chatting,emailing,virtual dating and a lots more:)

Beside we f...care about anything related with her:)

[Greycap]

and what i forget to add, its not our business, tough. it's hers.

[Nikodemus]

At least I hope she knows this forum.

[Greycap]

guess so...

[Mr.Bunt]

perhaps whe should ask her that in her interviews ( at her official website )

[Nikodemus]

Go for it! Just do it!

[unreal]

And ask then which member she likes most:)

[Mr.Bunt]

hm better not ... you all would be disappointed :mrgreen:

[Nikodemus]

LOL

[Philippe]

hm better not ... you all would be disappointed :mrgreen:

Self confident as always hehe. :D

[Manu]

Mr Bunt lives at this forum, so any moment she posts, he will be here... waiting

[Manu]

:D :mrgreen:

[Mr.Bunt]

how good that i am living in the same time zone with her ... else i would have to reduce my sleeping time even more ;)

[Manu]

very good, but when you start class, you have to sleep more often :D

[Mr.Bunt]

isnt that the sense of class ? to sleep in there? ;) ... i will manage it ;) ... and i dont think that, if she is really logging into this forum that she logs after midnight ... she has to get her sleep as well ;) and as i already said i am having 5 hours computer studies a week and i will be on this forum in this time ;)

[Manu]

Anywhere you like it. But be careful in class if you sleep there... I hope you are not at the first row...

[Mr.Bunt]

we are only 17 left ... there is only a first row ...

built like this

___
| _ |

[Philippe]

we are only 17 left ... there is only a first row ...

built like this

___
| _ |

Then it will be very hard to fall asleep without being noticed. :D

[Mr.Bunt]

hm i have to train ... perhaps i can sleep with open eyes :mrgreen:

[Manu]

Some people on this forum can post here and sleep at the same time, as you know. Maybe you're able to sleep at class and not to be noticed...

[Philippe]

I think Mr. Bunt can follow lessons, sleep, eat and post on this forum at the same time! :whistling:

[Manu]

Wow, he's very skilful then. Or he has got 7 arms

[Mr.Bunt]

as i already said i am inhuman ... perhaps i dont even need sleep ... lets try it without :mrgreen:

[Manu]

You're a robot!

[Mr.Bunt]

oh then i hope my batteries wont run low :roll:

[Manu]

I hope so, cause you wouldn't be able to post here. Oh, that'd be horrible

[Mr.Bunt]

would be bit boring without me :mrgreen:

dont know how you survived the last 3 weeks ;) ... it was horrible for me too ... i was missing this forum and missing seeing alizee videos :mrgreen:

[Manu]

Yes, those 3 weeks were eternal, a hell. Thank god you're back! :D
We were bored, Mister

[Philippe]

Luckily you said you were going on vacation, otherwise we would think something happened to you. A day on the forum without Mr. Bunt looks kinda strange.

[Mr.Bunt]

i will never let you alone so long again ( at least not till next holiday :mrgreen:)

[Manu]

If you do, you must tell us, or we'll think smth strange happened to you, as Philippe said. You're almost as essential as Alizée here.

[Alw]

Luckily you said you were going on vacation, otherwise we would think something happened to you. A day on the forum without Mr. Bunt looks kinda strange.

we survived course we had franka ^^ she's also pretty active while she's not in school or preparing for tests the next day

[Mr.Bunt]

lol ... imagine:

forum has been closed because of a sudden disapperiance of Mr.Bunt :mrgreen:

[Manu]

lol

[Alw]

u can still close it ? by overloading it ^^

[Greycap]

buntiboy, get back on the ground......;)

[Mr.Bunt]

If you do, you must tell us, or we'll think smth strange happened to you, as Philippe said. You're almost as essential as Alizée here.

he started ...

c'est pas ma faute :mrgreen:

[Marcustro]

hm i have to train ... perhaps i can sleep with open eyes


Are you goldfish?

[Marcustro]

hm i have to train ... perhaps i can sleep with open eyes


Are you fish, Sir?

[Nikodemus]

He said he is inhuman creature from alpha centauri.

[parlertoutbas]

Here I was, thinking someone had shed some new light on the discussion :roll: You guys take pointless posting and irrelevancies to the extreme :lol:

[Greycap]

dude, you have no idea how many times my profs told me that in college....;) *lol*

[Marcustro]

Yes.

[Mr.Bunt]

dude, you have no idea how many times my profs told me that in college....;) *lol*

hehe

[Marcustro]

I don't know what's it taking about...

[Angelvs]

This has to be the greatest example of Off Topic in the freakin' world! :dribble:

My God!... I know there's no much to discuss about if Alizée's breast are natural or not... but this... it's just amazing... it doesn't matter how much do I think this topic should be guarded as a testimony for humanity... I think I'm going to close it...

I'll wait to read the next 10 or 15 posts... and then I'll decide... so, if you have an opinion about the original topic... go on... post it!


The Real Angelvs (and here we are...)

[Micha]

I think she did get breast implants, because there is more evidence then just the fact that they are big, while they used to be small.

The fact that this 'growth' happend unnoticed untill she returned on the TV set after less then two months. She was on the Italian MTV on April 25th with her original breasts, and then on June 18th she was in the Italian FestivalBar with big breasts that were also quite tight.
And this sort of extreme growth doesn't happen in less then two months. I know that breasts can get slightly bigger when a girl gains weight, or when she's having her period, but they don't double in size just like that. Specially not when your over 16. Alizée was almost 18 when this happend, and these days the law says that girls as young as 16 can get implants with permission of the parents. And nobody can denie that Alizée is in a special situation where these kinds of things happen all the time.

As much as i like Alizée, i can't denie that all the evidence points at a breast enlargement in May when she was in Italy. Also keep in mind that between April 25th and June 18th Alizée carefully stayed away from the media in that period.

Then when you look at the bikini pictures, there is the one where she sticks out her arm to grab the glass. I've been saying it quite a while, and those who say they don't believe it, say that because they don't want to believe it. There really are typpical scars underneath her armpits, and even without the beach pictures, when you look closely at the videos of the preformances of J'en ai marre, you can once see the scars again.
Ofcourse there are moments when the scars are not visible, but that is just a simple thing called lighting difference.

Another obvious clue is the fact that it happen in the production phase of her second album. Now to me that is just a little bit too obvious. The typpical "need something new" kind of thing. Alizée got big breasts, not by nature, but for her second album, that is clear as water.

And then notice the after effects... Alizée knows that fans are talking about this, and she knows the media. If she did not have breast implants, she would already have denied any accusations of plastic surgery months ago. But Alizée does not denie because there is nothing to denie.
In one interview, the question is asked: Did Alizée get bigger? To wich Alizée replies: No, i'm still 1m 61cm.
And that is how she moves around such questions knowing that the media obviously suspects something, and would like to know the truth. But she'll wont tell unless the question is is asked directly. And also, pretty much all interviews are filtered by managers before the interview is recorded, so most likely this direct question will be filtered for the rest of Alizée's career.

However, my opinion is that if Alizée is happy with them, then i don't care. I like her music, i like her appearance, and as long as she remains a singer of the same quality as she is now, i am one of her biggest fans.

[Mr.Bunt]

However, my opinion is that if Alizée is happy with them, then i don't care. I like her music, i like her appearance, and as long as she remains a singer of the same quality as she is now, i am one of her biggest fans.

i totally agree with that ... it is uninteresting if they are natural or not as long as she is happy with her body

[Me]

Micha why you write soo long topic??Meybe you will be write Books about breast famous womens. :wink:

[Mr.Bunt]

he is always writing excellent long reports about topics ...

[Me]

Yes thats true.

[Marcustro]

Micha why you write soo long topic??Meybe you will be write Books about breast famous womens.


One of the reason may be he is the expert of Women's Breast. Perhaps he is doctor who examine women's breast. WOW

[Riccardo]

And i think we talked enought about this issue, think of somebody talking abour your body modifications...