The end of the internet?

[quentin lee]

This is an article that I found on www.bluesnews.com

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060213/chester

It points out that the major telecom indutries want to privatize the internet and charge for just about everything we do on the internet.

[Ned]

I don't believe that bullshit and I don't think that every telecomunications company will accept this. But when? In the near future?

[quentin lee]

I do not know.. but if it has even some truth to it, it causes alarm for 90% of of the internet users.

[rka]

they're insane.
All they think about is MONEY MONEY MONEY.
And what they do to that money. Keep for themselves in a banking account in switzerland or some other country.
charge e-mail? wow...just because government isn't getting their 50 cents per stamp.

It's gonna be a real world with taxes and crap. But virtualy.

[RMJ]

End of the internet is inevitable.

But it's not something to worry about. There's already other networks out there. There has always been. Internet is just one of them. The oldest and biggest of them. If internet becomes nonfree, it will die away and others take it's place.

[rka]

it would suck though.
And you mean it would start from 0 again?

[Ropi]

charge e-mail?

Well, that's what AOL and yahoo planning.

I think this articel makes it clear:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/andrewkantor/2006-02-02-congress-open-pipes_x.htm

You have a DSL connection from your local phone company. You try to go to, say, www.usatoday.com but instead see a message, "USATODAY.com does not currently have a transport agreement with AT&T to have its content carried to AT&T subscribers. We apologize for any inconvenience.

[RMJ]

it would suck though.
And you mean it would start from 0 again?
No. Change to new network can be archieved quite quickly.

Even current alternative networks can use content made for internet. Current server software works with them. So moving the current content to other network is very simple thing to do. It doesn't need any physical changes. Just need to point the software to connect to alternative network.

Besides, if some American companies for real tries to make it nonfree then it will just mean that rest of the world stops interacting with them. Too bad for them.

[rka]

Wow...Always United States did you noticed?

US is the only country that sue people for p2p.

Anywhere else, that idk?

[Ned]

Sues people for P2P? :shock: How come, I mean isn't that ..... oh, illegal? I wanted to say free, legal and stuff...
No. Change to new network can be archieved quite quickly.

Even current alternative networks can use content made for internet. Current server software works with them. So moving the current content to other network is very simple thing to do. It doesn't need any physical changes. Just need to point the software to connect to alternative network.

Besides, if some American companies for real tries to make it nonfree then it will just mean that rest of the world stops interacting with them. Too bad for them.
Other networks? Can you name some please, 'cause I don't know any other. :cheesy:

[RMJ]

Sues people for P2P? :shock: How come, I mean isn't that ..... oh, illegal? I wanted to say free, legal and stuff...
Yup... p2p is very illegal! You become criminal right away when you install p2p program (that includes your modem drivers, too, as they uses PPP protocol... ).

Or not... :P



Other networks? Can you name some please, 'cause I don't know any other. :cheesy:
Umm.. I don't remember their names. Haven't checked them out in long time. :(

Except Freenet. Because it's lil different kind of architecture. It uses p2p approach.

[Ned]

Is the copyright law the only reason why P2P is illegal, or is there any other too?

[quentin lee]

pretty much the copyright laws, p2p was mainly used for sharing of music and movies back in the day when scour media agent, napster and kazaa were online. Scour folded, napster went legit and I don't know what happened to kazaa.

but attention was made when napster got too big.

they're insane.
All they think about is MONEY MONEY MONEY.
And what they do to that money. Keep for themselves in a banking account in switzerland or some other country.
charge e-mail? wow...just because government isn't getting their 50 cents per stamp.

It's gonna be a real world with taxes and crap. But virtualy.

You know what is really funny about that... when ARPA.NET was going commerical, the USPost Office was offered a substantial amount of shares from ICANN so that it could grow... but the Post Office said no, they didn't want to invest money into something that had never been tried.

In the end, the poor visionaries of the USPS caused them to loose a huge amount of revenue from that decision. I say they got what they deserved.

About the other networks... When The US government was testing ARPA.net they decided that it was not feasable to use that model of communications, so they allowed the science industry to use the already established network after the USPS turned them down. Shortly after, software programmers and engineers started to streamline their communications for faster response on scientific information. The guy who invented the protocal for email never copyrighted the technology, and this is why people never had to pay for email. Then you have the guy who invented the code for TCP/IP and the standard was put inplace shortly after.. paving the way for what you use and possibly take for granted everyday.

When the internet became commercialized, the scientific community laid the groundwork for a private network, as the traffic started to slow down the intercontinental communications drastically. They moved their operations to a new network that is inaccessible from the commercial internet. This they dubbed Internet2.

When you read about Scientists reaching incredible speeds like this one:

http://www.igrid2005.org/media/press_09.28.05_ncdm.html

They conduct these transfers on Internet2

[PayBays]

Don't expect that i believe this crap.I mean,come on Internet disappearing?

The end of Internet,if that would happen,means 50% of the people lost their job.Believe me,in 2097 we still have Internet

[quentin lee]

Don't expect that i believe this crap.I mean,come on Internet disappearing?

The end of Internet,if that would happen,means 50% of the people lost their job.Believe me,in 2097 we still have Internet

Oh no it would not dispppear, you would just have to pay for everything, like emails, and downloads from "forced content partners".

say: you wanted a new Alizée video, naturally you would be affiliated with a network that was partners with universal/Polydor.. then you would download the video and be charged on your monthly bill for it.

But if your ISP did not have a content partner with Polydor, you would by SOL.

[ArlettyFan]

The end of the internet = the end of the rest of the people on Myspace's lives. :wink:

[RMJ]

Guys... Don't take it so seriously. Of course p2p isn't illegal. Not even in USA.

Only sharing illegal content on it is illegal. As is sharing illegal content illegal on any other media.

p2p is just way to connect two computers together. Basically every network is p2p, as it stands for peer to peer or point to point. Meaning that it connects two computers together. Nothing illegal in that.


The end of Internet,if that would happen,means 50% of the people lost their job.Believe me,in 2097 we still have Internet
Even having internet on next decade is unsure. And at year it's 100% sure that internet doensn't exists anymore. Not even parts of it. It's all gone then.

Internet is simply too clumsy. It has bad design that is vulnerable. As said in other thread, one superworm could kill internet in one day. It can surely recover from that but it's something that we need to accept. Internet is becoming to it's end. The sooner alternative networks are taken in use the better.

But the biggest problem isn't attacks against the internet. The biggest problem is the internet itself. It simply does not have nough addresses for all the computers and equipments that is connected to it. Big part of the internet is NATed because of lack of the addresses. There's millions of computers having same address currently but because they are behind NAT they still can access the internet. But it causes lots of headache. Another big problem is the slowness of internet. The connection speeds seems to grow but in reality, internet has more and more bottlenecks that are slowing it down. It's too centralized.

IP6v protocol is first step to larger and better network. Internet will be part of that bigger network but only as long as it's needed. It will fade away. It's possibly that internet stays as the name of the world wide network but the network itself will change. It's inevitable.




When the internet became commercialized, the scientific community laid the groundwork for a private network, as the traffic started to slow down the intercontinental communications drastically. They moved their operations to a new network that is inaccessible from the commercial internet. This they dubbed Internet2.

When you read about Scientists reaching incredible speeds like this one:

http://www.igrid2005.org/media/press_09.28.05_ncdm.html

They conduct these transfers on Internet2
Yup, very true. Didn't mention it because it's not currently accessible to normal users. Just for scientific use. But Internet2 is example what internet could be nowaydays... Much, much better place.

[rka]

lol...the funny part is everyone you know now thru the internet wud b gone how in the hell wud u fiond them again..if u dont have contact info :lol:

[ArlettyFan]

Banning porn would probably take care of most of the clutter and traffic. Maybe porn should just have it's own network that it can't go outside of, and people are forced to pay a seperate subscription for that.

[Nestonia]

lol, 20 years ago you wondered how could smth like internet change your life, now you´re going to discuss how could "end of internet" change your or someone´s life... it´s not for you RMJ, just thought about it... what would online gamers do, what would website designers do, what would fans of bittorrent do, what would i do, lol... and ofc, it´ll never happen, otherway 50% of users of pc will do suicide, how many computer and internet users we have? natural growth will increase and we´ll have catastrophe...

i hope you guys will understand that it was a joke but if you´re going to think about those those pc and internet freaks then what would be happen if electricity will disappear :cheesy:

[rka]

lol, 20 years ago you wondered how could smth like internet change your life, now you´re going to discuss how could "end of internet" change your or someone´s life... it´s not for you RMJ, just thought about it... what would online gamers do, what would website designers do, what would fans of bittorrent do, what would i do, lol... and ofc, it´ll never happen, otherway 50% of users of pc will do suicide, how many computer and internet users we have? natural growth will increase and we´ll have catastrophe...

i hope you guys will understand that it was a joke but if you´re going to think about those those pc and internet freaks then what would be happen if electricity will disappear :cheesy:

you're a comedian :P

[quentin lee]

lol, 20 years ago you wondered how could smth like internet change your life, now you´re going to discuss how could "end of internet" change your or someone´s life... it´s not for you RMJ, just thought about it... what would online gamers do, what would website designers do, what would fans of bittorrent do, what would i do, lol... and ofc, it´ll never happen, otherway 50% of users of pc will do suicide, how many computer and internet users we have? natural growth will increase and we´ll have catastrophe...

i hope you guys will understand that it was a joke but if you´re going to think about those those pc and internet freaks then what would be happen if electricity will disappear :cheesy:

you're a comedian :P

True story.

[Le Fidèle]

the day the internet falls. .

is the beggining of the end for the world. . . no joke.

[ArlettyFan]

Everytime we make a post on here, we are just cluttering up the internet and bringing about it's demise.

[Le Fidèle]

haha, but really. . .

even if that WAS true. . . i'll post away cause by the time that happenes i'll be dead in the ground. :twisted:

[fallenONE]

Internet was meant to be free :cry:

Those private corporations could suck my a**.

Next thing you know they gonna try to privitasize oxygen air usage.

[Le Fidèle]

^LMAO!!!!!

they already DO!


ever here of oxygen bars?



they're actually quite relaxing. . . only if your freind pays for you though :cheesy:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c160/Lefidele/OxygenBars.gif

[Nestonia]

Internet was meant to be free :cry:

Those private corporations could suck my a**.

Next thing you know they gonna try to privitasize oxygen air usage.

fast and FREE internet, wow, that would be very cool !!!

[RMJ]

It will never be fast...

...but free it has been since the beginning...

[Steve]

It will never be fast...

...but free it has been since the beginning...

Nothing is free!!!

[fallenONE]

You do pay your ISP for Internet

But lets hope you only need to pay your ISP

[Steve]

You need a computer to view the internet :roll:

[Nestonia]

It will never be fast...

...but free it has been since the beginning...

for me who i have 1mb DL will 100mb DL be very fast

[RMJ]

You do pay your ISP for Internet

But lets hope you only need to pay your ISP
You don't pay for internet to ISP.

You pay for rights to use their bandwidth on their physical network or in the physical network they are leasing.

Internet is free for all.

You can anytime build your own physical network and plugit into internet and become your own ISP and telecompany. And noone will charge you a cent. (Altho, building that network will cost you some millions...)

[Ned]

Ever since I learned how to use a PC, I learned about the evolution of the internet. I learned how it grew from a Pentagon military network to free-for-use-to-common-people-like-you-and-me-network. I don't think it will be the end of the possibilities to communicate between us when the internet as we know it today is gone, nor the end of the world. Like RMJ said, big corporations will move to another network or networks and will force the small ISP companies ot do the same, so the traffic will continue and so the money in the pockets will continue coming. We probably would pay a fee of some kind to change to the new network, and this way we can continue our lives as internauts. :D

[Orion]

there was a report a while back on the government of the United States' mission to keep the Net free. I don't remember if any legislation has been passed, nor whether telecoms can take control of the net since it belongs to everybody now.

tune in next week . . .

[Ned]

there was a report a while back on the government of the United States' mission to keep the Net free. I don't remember if any legislation has been passed, nor whether telecoms can take control of the net since it belongs to everybody now.

That's how the internet was described long time ago. They also stated that there are networks in networks with many different sizes.

[quentin lee]

The fact of the matter is.. that Big Telecom Companies that failed to jump onto the band wagon years ago want a fair slice of the pie that they are not getting now. Its something like billions dollars that are generated online. I know the gaming industry contributed more than 9 billion last year.

[MetalicGuy]

Hmm.. internet will never be fast? I think my internet is fast... 10 mbit download and 10 mbit upload... yes fixed connection... fiberlan ftw!

in three months we will get that upgraded to 100mbit... for the same price!!! around 30 eur/month...

now i download a dvd movie (4,7 gigabyte) in one hour ten minutes.. approximately.. but with 100 mbit i will download that amount in 10 minutes :D :D :D wohoo !! bredbandsbolaget ftw :P

[PayBays]

Lemme tell you this:

We already pay for this Internet.Our monthly bills to the provider is enough to have internet.

You guys all think internet will be gone?Don't let me laugh and don't come with this professional talking,cause i don't understand a thing of it.

You can't seem to notice that some of the business going via Internet.How else should we buy things we never get?Maybe we can build an teleporter who brings you to that place.

Sorry but internet won't die so soon.Maybe in 500 years,but really not till the 22th Century.

Imaging...you want a thing from Asia,and how would you play to buy it?

A woman in a chair,she can't go to the store to do her shoppings.She now just buys it online.What about speaking with your friends from all over the world?If someone who can't talk or is death,can easy talk to other people via mail or stuff.

Man what are you guys thinking.In the past when the Pascaline was made,people thought it wouldn't last long.We're still using it...

Come on,come with something better :lol:

[Señor Villa]

I don't think the internet will disappear. I see it totally controlling our lives in the future. Imagine operating your vehicle using the internet by downloading power to your car with a click of a button no more oil to buy from other countries. The day the internet goes out for good it is when our maker jumps out of our computer screen and says let go home. :lol:

[Achilles]

How can it be possible that Internet being over???!Once it was born it is forever.I'm sure it is all bullshit .Privatizing internet?What is the meaning?Above all ,the notion is wrong and vague .

[RMJ]

Hmm.. internet will never be fast? I think my internet is fast... 10 mbit download and 10 mbit upload... yes fixed connection... fiberlan ftw!
Your personal connection can reach pretty ok speeds but internet stays slow. Give 1 billion users that 10MBit LAN and you'll see what's the problem.

I have had my 10/10 Mbit LAN (or 100/100... depends on day as it keeps changing for some reason) 4 years and been quite happy with it. But when you need to download from the otherside of the ball, you'll soon notice that it isn't your connection that is the limiting factor... Internet is full of bottlenecks. And those becomes more stuck all the time.

Sure I can download full DVD in 10 minutes from anywhere Finland/Sweden/Germany but after that it becomes troublesome... First bottleneck is located in central Europe. The next is the big pool of water between the US and Europe. And once hit the continent of USA... The bottlenecks starts to pile up...

On good day with low traffic, downloading fullspeed from the other side of the ball isn't problem, tho. But the problem is that those good days exists less and less.

Sure I could move to new apartment and get free 1Gbit LAN (available in certain parts of this city) for it but what's the use if the net cannot handle such speeds...




You guys all think internet will be gone?Don't let me laugh and don't come with this professional talking,cause i don't understand a thing of it.

Sorry but internet won't die so soon.Maybe in 500 years,but really not till the 22th Century.

Then how come you can laugh about on it if you don't even know what we are talking about ? You don't understand how internet works, how it's maintained, how it's created... How can you say it won't die when you don't understand even basics of it ?

Internet will die. There is not if in it. It's just matter of time. On next decade most likely.

Other networks will take it's place. There will be always world wide network. But it won't be internet very long.

And as already once said. You don't pay for internet. You pay for data transfer on phone or cable lines. You pay for right to use it for your own data transfer. If it's related to internet or not is irrelevant. You can always use some other than internet with that same payment.

[Ned]

The bottleneck in Central Europe I think it is in the Czeck Republic, I'm not sure. Anyways, yes, the internet is choking due to more and more connection points of different sizes networks. The more networks are created (that use the internet) the more it's getting suffocated by the amount of users and information.

[RMJ]

The bottleneck in Central Europe I think it is in the Czeck Republic, I'm not sure.
:lol:

The bottlenecks are mostly in Germany and France (possibly some problems are caused in Belgium & Holland).

Czeck Rebublic isn't even near the highway of the internet. In the world of internet, it's located in the middle of nowhere. :)

The backbone of the internet is pretty much Germany/France/USA/Canada/Japan (and nowadays more and more China). It's the information's superhighway... When things doesn't work smoothly in conenctions between those countries then everything goes straight to hell...

[quentin lee]

Let me give some examples as to what that article was implying.

20-40 dollars a month for your ISP plus any and all that may apply.
.01 cent per letter on text message (using the messenger that your ISP would support)
.10 cents per email sent
.99 cents per meg downloaded to file format.
.49 cents for streaming video.
.29 cents per pic saved

these would be standard rates not including rates for off ISP subscriptions like for instance, you use Yahoo ISP, but you like google searching.

This could cost you 2.99-9.99 a month in addition to the above.

But don't forget. EVERYTHING you do is tracked and catagorized for personalized adds your ISP will send to you through email, pop ups, messages... etc. And on top of that...
The Governments would be able to have free access to the collected data on your account. Nothing would be private, nothing would be safe, you would be a resource to companies and nothing more.

[PayBays]

You guys all think internet will be gone?Don't let me laugh and don't come with this professional talking,cause i don't understand a thing of it.

Sorry but internet won't die so soon.Maybe in 500 years,but really not till the 22th Century.

Then how come you can laugh about on it if you don't even know what we are talking about ? You don't understand how internet works, how it's maintained, how it's created... How can you say it won't die when you don't understand even basics of it ?

1.I'm studying ICT which means everything IN AROUND and WITH the computer.
2.I told my teacher who has such a big mind about Internet and he said it was all bullshit.

Come on guys...Internet disappearing... :roll:


If my Internet will be tracked who cares.I ain't downloading VIDS from movies or games

[Ned]

1.I'm studying ICT which means everything IN AROUND and WITH the computer.
2.I told my teacher who has such a big mind about Internet and he said it was all bullshit.

Come on guys...Internet disappearing... :roll:
Let me tell you something. Everything has an end as well as a beginning. I can give you so many examples, but I won't, because it would be useless. It is not the end forever, it will be replaced. Yes, mark my words! REPLACED! Not gone for good. Some other networks will take it's place, better networks with better bandwidth and information transfer. Networks that will not be choked by the huge amount of users. When that will happen, I wouldn't wanna be the one who'll tell you "I told you so!".

[PayBays]

1.I'm studying ICT which means everything IN AROUND and WITH the computer.
2.I told my teacher who has such a big mind about Internet and he said it was all bullshit.

Come on guys...Internet disappearing... :roll:
Let me tell you something. Everything has an end as well as a beginning. I can give you so many examples, but I won't, because it would be useless. It is not the end forever, it will be replaced. Yes, mark my words! REPLACED! Not gone for good. Some other networks will take it's place, better networks with better bandwidth and information transfer. Networks that will not be choked by the huge amount of users. When that will happen, I wouldn't wanna be the one who'll tell you "I told you so!".

If it will be replaced we won't be seeing that.I mean,there are a lot of other problems the Gouvernement has then Internet.

Alright people do download,but the country i'm in they don't care.Maybe they want to do it in America,but not here

[Ned]

If it will be replaced we won't be seeing that.I mean,there are a lot of other problems the Gouvernement has then Internet.

Alright people do download,but the country i'm in they don't care.Maybe they want to do it in America,but not here
They will care, because they will be force to do it! :wink:

[RMJ]

1.I'm studying ICT which means everything IN AROUND and WITH the computer.
Studying and understanding is two different things. You can read thousands of books without understanding bit of them. You have to open your eyes and mind to understand what you read.

If you really understand the internet then you see the reason why it will fall apart. It was never ment to be like it is nowadays. It wasn't built to serve hundreths of millions of people.



2.I told my teacher who has such a big mind about Internet and he said it was all bullshit.

Come on guys...Internet disappearing... :roll:

Tell your teacher that half of the world is laughing at him and his bullshit.

Anyone who works with internet knows it'll be soon gone...

Do you remember the golden age of BBS' ? Oh, you don't ? Maybe because they disappeared recently ?

Do you remember the golden age of newsgroups ? Oh, you don't ? Maybe because they are about to disappear...

Do you remember phones with wires ? Of course you dont. It was in the last millennium.... What if your Nokia had one ? You'd be forced to stay at home to contact others. How bizar would that be...

Do you remember internet ? Of course you do... It's still alive. But how long ?

Things change...


If my Internet will be tracked who cares.I ain't downloading VIDS from movies or games
No one (expect copyright companies) cares about those... What companies cares is what is personal to you. They wants to know you so they can market better to you and make money. They want to know your habits. Where you spent your time, what you eat, what you wear, what you think, what is imporant to you, what you love, what you hate...

Remember that all of your data will be accessible someday through networks. That includes every detail ever recorder into databases, including your medical history, your financial state, your education.... everything...

[tern]

Let me give some examples as to what that article was implying.

20-40 dollars a month for your ISP plus any and all that may apply.
.01 cent per letter on text message (using the messenger that your ISP would support)
.10 cents per email sent
.99 cents per meg downloaded to file format.
.49 cents for streaming video.
.29 cents per pic saved

I think if this came true, the internet would cost me at least $5000 per month. This can't work. The internet2 is already in place in a handful of universities...

[RMJ]

Let me give some examples as to what that article was implying.

20-40 dollars a month for your ISP plus any and all that may apply.
.01 cent per letter on text message (using the messenger that your ISP would support)
.10 cents per email sent
.99 cents per meg downloaded to file format.
.49 cents for streaming video.
.29 cents per pic saved

I think if this came true, the internet would cost me at least $5000 per month. This can't work.
Excatly. It's so ridiculous that it makes me laugh...

The day they would actually start charging of things like quoted above would definitly be end of internet. Generally people are stupid but they aren't that stupid... It's like trying to charge for breathing the air...

[PayBays]

^ The fact about the wireless telephone...

If you do Telephone banking,with wireless phone,people can steal your bankaccount and get all the money.I love old things,i have a wire phone and i like it.

Lemme see in the future if Internet goes off

[RMJ]

^ The fact about the wireless telephone...

If you do Telephone banking,with wireless phone,people can steal your bankaccount and get all the money.I love old things,i have a wire phone and i like it.
In theory that is possible. But do you know how much computer power from third party it takes to decrypt GSM data ? A lot. And not to even mention that connection between GSM phones changes channel all the time... (or well... it doesn't take awfully lot to decrypt that GSM data but the real problem is the alternating channel... It's helluva hard to keep listening that one phone call enough long to get something valuable from it... )

Listening wired phone is much, much easier. Just plug your third party device into the wire and you're done.

Of course, when talkin about bank connetions, your connection is (should be!) encrypted always. No matter what kind of device you use to make that connection. Every decent browser (even IE) can do SSL and it's a lot harder than GSM crypting...

[PayBays]

I'll give a respond tommorow after i told him what you said.

Lol i don't want to have any fight so i just stop...You know i can't know all :weep:

I just think a world without Internet is doomed

[quentin lee]

More information on this subject

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20060207/tc_pcworld/124654

[Emmerdale001]

Americans likes to pay for everything by themselves.

You have to pay to go to college by yourself.
You have to pay for good health care by yourself.
You have to pay for travel by yourself. There is shit for mass transit.

If you're too poor to pay by yourself, then that's too bad. Go to the bank and take out a loan and then go into debt. That's America.

If they want people to pay to get access to certain websites or portions of the internet, I don't see how it's different from what is happening in the rest of the US. You have to pay for everything else by yourself anyway.

Maybe that's why the US is falling behind the rest of the industrialized world when it comes to infrastructure, health care delivery, and quality of education.

Big business likes this. When you have to do everything yourself, it's easier for big business to charge you more because you are small, and they are big, but when people pool their resources together and care for each other, they can collectively bargain with businesses for a fairer price and better treatment, but that's pisses off big business.

Only in the US can you find big business leaders who would actually think of trying to get big business leaders across the world to support the idea of privatizing the internet.

[Le Fidèle]

INternet. . . its Comcastic :cheesy:

[Tim]

PayBays, the 'Internet' will still exist. It's just that the network it's on will change. It will become faster, more secure and much more reliable (we hope ;p)

It will probably still be called Internet, unless it changes gradually, in which case it should be called Timnet or InterTim or another equally me-related name.

Imagine DC++ hubs on InterTim! O_O

[tern]

Imagine DC++ hubs on InterTim! O_O

I am. It's all filled with just pics and videos of you and some bag with "SUPRÉ" on it. Pretty lame if you ask me. Why is that, Tim? Why pollute this beautiful place with your essence?


The Timezone Traversing Timnet (TTT) sucks. :mad:

[quentin lee]

Bring more coverage for you to bicker about. Really though, It looks like the US Senate favors Net Neutrality, in this regard.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060208-6139.html

Synopsis: The Net would stay the same speed, but they are now talking about ISPs offering QoS (Quality of Service Protocol) for additional fees.

More to follow

[Ned]

Synopsis: The Net would stay the same speed, but they are now talking about ISPs offering QoS (Quality of Service Protocol) for additional fees.

More to follow
Now this is really interesting. What is QoS, and what does it do? I've heard of it but... don't know anything about it. :=D:

[quentin lee]

QoS is a service that runs on IIS that will allow clients to have better than normal response from network activity, or to keep it simple: If you had QoS enabled on your account, Your bandwidth would take priority over others, depending on the level of service you were given.

[RMJ]

over 80% of internet servers isn't IIS, so QoS is pretty useless.