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[Orion]

[Split from http://www.alizee-forum.com/ptopic,586106.html#586106]


I don't like it when she stays away for so long.I'm losing her right now.I don't pay any attention to her anymore,and i haven't played a song about her in 3 days.

I can't even create a good video with my feelings,because they're not there!


I have a remedy for that, PayBays . . . . . my next vid

I have something that cannot make me ever lose what I feel about Alizée . . . it is a part of me not because I am a fan; not because I love her music; not because I love her looks . . . it is because I know her in my heart, which is way beyond the given scope of any of those things just mentioned . . . I know FOR ME who Alizée is . . . and I know the truth of that; it's a universal truth because me and her belong to this universe (universal because nothing else exists) . . . it is that feeling that people sometimes say . . ., but only say because they are emotional and it brings some understanding for others who don’t (but this, I don’t just “say”. . . . I feel as if God created us on the same day of the same hour of the same minute of the same second . . . and that compatibility has been on its way ever since, to transcend everything else here on earth that has no idea of these things I speak, for they are above and beyond the understanding of anyone else. What the ramifications will be for my mind and soul . . . my heart . . . is for me to deal with and suffer by . . . to question WHY and to ask God why is it that a man can sexually abuse a child so easily, but I, who have found love eternally, truthfully mine, need to suffer like a dog once I find it . . . It almost makes me hate God, for not making my life easier (but I understand why we are here on this earth, so I don’t hate). Sometimes when I go out, I look so mean that people naturally stay away from me or notice that there is something wrong (I am the way I am because of what I see . . . and others don’t) so don't think you have it bad, my friend . . . you haven't even touched the surface yet . . . and like I told this guy once that thought he was all tuff and gangsta . . . “you don’t want any of this, man . . . don’t swim in these waters” and I looked at him with a blank stare that even scared me, because while that person was seeing it, I was feeling it, and it wasn’t good . . . . . . . . That’s sort of like what this is . . . this feeling is worse than it looks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

So, cheer up and I will try to make a nice vid I got going here . . . maybe it will perk you up some . . . and even anyone here that hates me for some reason . . . I also hope they cheer up, wtf . . . we’re not at war

(I am going all over the place now . . . . it’s your fault :cheesy: )


******hope this post doesn't bother anyone ******

[maxt23]

My god, that was good.

[Ned]

Hey, you know is not a bad thing to have feelings. :=D:

[Excellence knows no age]

[Alizée] is a part of me not because I am a fan; not because I love her music; not because I love her looks...it is because I know her in my heart...I know FOR ME who Alizée is...I feel as if God created us on the same day of the same hour of the same minute of the same second...and that compatibility has been on its way ever since...what the ramifications will be for my mind and soul...my heart...is for me to deal with and suffer by...

Respect.

This goes far beyond all the small-talk on this forum...You give the most beautiful description of true love. Indeed knowing her in your heart and suffering ever after. That one spot in your heart filled with her. I can almost feel the mix of your happiness of knowing her and your grief of never having her. I feel with you...I am truely speechless...

:happycry:

[PayBays]

^^^^^

what is your job man?

Sigh,i always look the same.I don't like this world...polution everywhere,people looking like crap,f*cking around,smoking,drinking and riding your car against a pole with 150 miles an hour...

There is so much wrong in the world,that i need to force myself to start smiling...


i compleetly forgot what i said,cause who cares about me? :roll:

[maxt23]

I give the same kind of love in the french section, but unfortunatly, I'm not good enough in english to express my true feelings for Alizée :P

[Ned]

... i compleetly forgot what i said,cause who cares about me? :roll:
The ones who love you must care about you. I think it's a rule.

[Orion]

[Alizée] is a part of me not because I am a fan; not because I love her music; not because I love her looks...it is because I know her in my heart...I know FOR ME who Alizée is...I feel as if God created us on the same day of the same hour of the same minute of the same second...and that compatibility has been on its way ever since...what the ramifications will be for my mind and soul...my heart...is for me to deal with and suffer by...

Respect.

This goes far beyond all the small-talk on this forum...You give the most beautiful description of true love. Indeed knowing her in your heart and suffering ever after. That one spot in your heart filled with her. I can almost feel the mix of your happiness of knowing her and your grief of never having her. I feel with you...I am truely speechless...

:happycry:

The night I saw your reply, I tried to post but I ended up deleting my own reply because I could not think of what to say . . . we can't say anything else on the matter . . . just that I want to thank everyone here on this forum for making my stay a memorable one . . . everyone here deserves my respect and I don't care who you are . . . thank you . . . and know that I am a friend to whomever seeks one . . . . . . . .

[scorpio[pt]]

one word for you orion respect man , :cheesy: you really decribed love man :cheesy: , i am speachllees: i can say only this :


orion rules

[Excellence knows no age]

[Alizée] is a part of me not because I am a fan; not because I love her music; not because I love her looks...it is because I know her in my heart...I know FOR ME who Alizée is...I feel as if God created us on the same day of the same hour of the same minute of the same second...and that compatibility has been on its way ever since...what the ramifications will be for my mind and soul...my heart...is for me to deal with and suffer by...

Respect.

This goes far beyond all the small-talk on this forum...You give the most beautiful description of true love. Indeed knowing her in your heart and suffering ever after. That one spot in your heart filled with her. I can almost feel the mix of your happiness of knowing her and your grief of never having her. I feel with you...I am truely speechless...

:happycry:

The night I saw your reply, I tried to post but I ended up deleting my own reply because I could not think of what to say . . . we can't say anything else on the matter . . . just that I want to thank everyone here on this forum for making my stay a memorable one . . . everyone here deserves my respect and I don't care who you are . . . thank you . . . and know that I am a friend to whomever seeks one . . . . . . . .

Nothing more needs to be said...

[Orion]

]one word for you orion respect man , :cheesy: you really decribed love man :cheesy: , i am speachllees: i can say only this :


orion rules

you guys are making it more harder for me to reply . . . I don't have the words . . . just that all good things in life find their way to you and your families . . . if we ever meet at a fan meeting . . . I'm buying . . . .
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P.S. and for some reason I don't have a "reply box" at the bottom of the page and I have to quote someone just to be able to post :?

[Excellence knows no age]

Well...I can add one more thing...

...the mix of your happiness of knowing her and your grief of never having her...

...be prepared to carry these two feelings with you for the rest of your life. Cause they will not go away. They might only slowly fade in time.

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P.S. I don't have a reply box anymore, either. But you can of course always use the "post reply" buttons at the top and the bottom of the page to post a reply.

[quentin lee]

I noticed that the quick reply is gone on mine too... I am wondering if they took it away...

How interesting.

On topic, though... I have met someone through ebay who says that he is good friends with Jessica's friend Julie, and he also claims that julie is friends with Alizée... I remain sceptical... does anyone know who "Julie" is and is there any truth to her being good friends with Alizée?

Whether he is friends with Julie or not is irrelevent.

[tern]

P.S. and for some reason I don't have a "reply box" at the bottom of the page and I have to quote someone just to be able to post :?

Check out the 10 post, by Riccardo.

http://www.alizee-forum.com/topic,13113,-im-getting-sick-of-this-error.html

[scorpio[pt]]

Well...I can add one more thing...

...the mix of your happiness of knowing her and your grief of never having her...

...be prepared to carry these two feelings with you for the rest of your life. Cause they will not go away. They might only slowly fade in time.

its true i also had the same feelings as orion for her but i end up moving on :cry: but its a feeling that we cant forget it will be always with us

[Ned]

That's what happens when she is a girl and her fans are mostly boys. :)

[Orion]

Ned, maybe you should read up on my history here on this forum and you will see that I am not "just a boy" looking at her ass . . . I have explained this before and I won't do it again, but my history with ALizée goes back even before she bacame famous . . . just don't ask because you might not understand . . . it's very complicated . . . I saw when this day would come . . . and now herre I am ready for ridicule ansd whatever else people can throw at me . . . but it won't matter . . . I am solid because I know my truth abd others can mock or set aside what they don't understand . . .

I wish I could be more clear, but this doesn't concern you guys . . . it's my problem . . . and I will deal with it as best I can becasue I only know the truth that I am speaking about . . . I love this forum ecasue it allows me to vent my emotions and frustrations about the whole thing at times . . . I enjopy being here and I would have loved for everyone to know and understand my story, but it's just not in the cards . . . . .

But what you say is true, Ned . . . some people are here becasue they fell in love with the image . . . and that's ok . . . pop artists present an image that will most likely get fans to fall head over heals for it . . . it's part of the business for male and female pop stars . . . but I don't care about any of that . . .

[Z3R0]

this monk in gilroy once said "chee-zy...."

[Emmerdale001]

...but my history with ALizée goes back even before she bacame famous . . . just don't ask because you might not understand . . . it's very complicated . . . I saw when this day would come . . . and now herre I am ready for ridicule ansd whatever else people can throw at me . . . but it won't matter . . . I am solid because I know my truth abd others can mock or set aside what they don't understand . . .

You're implying that you knew Alizee before she became famous? Is that what you are saying?

[Excellence knows no age]

You're implying that you knew Alizee before she became famous? Is that what you are saying?

NO! he means that it feels like he and Lili were meant for each other from the day they were born (look a few posts back)...so actually...he has known her before she was famous in a retroactive way...

[quentin lee]

some people are here becasue they fell in love with the image . . . and that's ok . . . pop artists present an image that will most likely get fans to fall head over heals for it . . . it's part of the business for male and female pop stars . . . but I don't care about any of that . . .

While I can agree with you, I'd have to say that I am more intrigued with all the behind the scenes videos and audios that I have seen, where you see her true personality.

Orion when you were eleven back in 1984, she was being born. When you were 21, she was 10... isn't that a discusting though?

I take it all back =)

[RMJ]

Orion when you were eleven back in 1984, she was being born. When you were 21, she was 10... isn't that a discusting though?

Why would it be disgusting thought ? Why cannot he have feelings on younger person ?

You are obviously thinking purely physical side of this... Yes, that might have been (it never really happened. He didn't know her when he was 21) quite disgusting.

But there's something much more important below that physical layer. If you feel that she's the one then she's the one. She can be everything for you. And when you feel so, anything physical becomes irrelevant.

I'd love her, no matter what my age would be.

[Z3R0]

I'd love her, no matter what my age would be.


so if u were lets say 3 you'd love her :?:

[RMJ]

Quite likely.

What I have seen 3 year old kids, they loves everyone.

[Orion]

some people are here becasue they fell in love with the image . . . and that's ok . . . pop artists present an image that will most likely get fans to fall head over heals for it . . . it's part of the business for male and female pop stars . . . but I don't care about any of that . . .

While I can agree with you, I'd have to say that I am more intrigued with all the behind the scenes videos and audios that I have seen, where you see her true personality.

Orion when you were eleven back in 1984, she was being born. When you were 21, she was 10... isn't that a discusting though?

I take it all back =)

hahaha, NO . . . you guys doin't understand . . . the details are not abpout me knowing her when I was 11 or 21 etc . . . In 1996 or 99 (don't remember the exact year) I said that my soul mate would come from an island and that her name will be like the wind ("airy") and begin with an "A" I said that she would be near Italy but from a big Island . . . but thoise are just small details of what I really saw . . . (more vivid) . . . some of you may ask how I saw this??? Well, ask yourselves how I knew that 9/11 would happen 2 weeks before it actually occured on Sept. 11. - (I told my friends that the attack would happen with planes used AS missles and that New York would be the biggest hit as well as the Pentagon . . . When I told them, I was dead serious and they saw the expression in my face because I am one that usually jokes around and loves to laugh . . .I won't repeat again what happened to me on the mornig of SUnday Sept, 9. I also told my brother, 3 weeks before he went to stay at our house in Italy, That hee should be prepared for a BIG earthwquake that will hit just before the year ends . . . that this earthquake would almost reach or pass 8 and that it would hit in the ocean . . . when this vision came to me, my whoile body trembled just before, and then I saw what eventually happened on Dec. 26 . . . I have also told my mother where they would find that poor little girl that was abducted and killed after being sexually abused . . . My mom asked me "do you think that she is alive?" and I looked at her and said no and then told her where she would be found . . . hidden in shrubbery on a small hill near a highway that is adjacent to a large desert. . . it was all over the news . . . I knew 2 weeks before my grandparent would die . . . I knew a few weeks before that my dad would get cancer but that he would not die (he is fine and no signs of it . . . clean).

Guys, I can go on but I do not want to say anymore . . . only what I have already repeated in earlier threads in 2003 and possibly in 2004 too (?)

So, when I say what I said about Alizée . . . now you have some idea of my story and how serious I am . . . don't think for one second that I haven't cried over the things that I have seen and still await to happen . . . SO, I can't just leave Alizée . . . I want her to be happy for the rest of her life with Jérém and her family . . . no divorce and that they should live happily and prosperous . . .

I will probably never meet her or go to one of her concerts because I would be hurting myself . . . I just don't know if it would be too painful for me . . . I just care about her, as a sister . . . I have told this to one of my good friends here on this forum (Sean)

This has nothing to do with age now . . . and . . . ofcoursse it would be sick if I fell in love with an 11 yr old etc . . . but I did not . . . I saw THIS time I am living here on this forum and the time I first saw her on TV . . . When I "saw"Alizée, I didn't see her age . . . just who she was . . . so that should take care of it . . . Now . . . please leave this alone . . . thank you very much

[quentin lee]

Maybe you will move to corsica and meet the person, and Alizee was the door way to this happening. You never know =)

[Orion]

Maybe you will move to corsica and meet the person, and Alizee was the door way to this happening. You never know =)

But I know, though . . . I will explain how I feel when I think about her . . . nothing about her body or hr looks or her voice or her anything other than the fact that she brings me back to nostalgic thoughts about certain things that I can't put to words, but are in my mind . . . I don't even understand that part, but it feels amazing and I am smiling RIGHT NOW just thinking about it . . . it's like someone trying to explain a movie to you, but you will not understand until you see it . . . you can't see inside my miond and I can't explain certain things (explain to a blind person what the color blue looks like) I am still trying to understand these nostalgictimes and places I experience. . . I can't explain them to you because . . . it's like seeing the feeling and understanding what you see, but not being able to put into words becasue there is no picture that wouold make sense to you . . . and that's not even it . . . I can't explain this "color blue," I shall put.

I appreciate your reply, though (I understand)

[Excellence knows no age]

You are incomparable like always!


So, when I say what I said about Alizée . . . now you have some idea of my story and how serious I am . . . don't think for one second that I haven't cried over the things that I have seen and still await to happen . . . SO, I can't just leave Alizée . . .

I will probably never meet her or go to one of her concerts because I would be hurting myself . . . I just don't know if it would be too painful for me . . . thank you very much

Is it true that you have a feeling about what might be bound to happen for Alizée? (maybe you have also already posted that in 2003 or 2004 but I dont know...)

And I think it would be good to visit a concert of her! Do you tell me that you have never seen her in real? Of course it seems that would be a painfull experience, but I am sure that if you do it you would be anxious about it and enjoy it after all. I think it is a good thing to go were the pain is rather than circumvent it till eternity and meanwhile keep thinking about it. I dont mean that she would dissapoint you when you see her in real :D ...your welcome.

[Orion]

You are incomparable like always!


So, when I say what I said about Alizée . . . now you have some idea of my story and how serious I am . . . don't think for one second that I haven't cried over the things that I have seen and still await to happen . . . SO, I can't just leave Alizée . . .

I will probably never meet her or go to one of her concerts because I would be hurting myself . . . I just don't know if it would be too painful for me . . . thank you very much

Is it true that you have a feeling about what might be bound to happen for Alizée? (maybe you have also already posted that in 2003 or 2004 but I dont know...)

And I think it would be good to visit a concert of her! Do you tell me that you have never seen her in real? Of course it seems that would be a painfull experience, but I am sure that if you do it you would be anxious about it and enjoy it after all. I think it is a good thing to go were the pain is rather than circumvent it till eternity and meanwhile keep thinking about it. I dont mean that she would dissapoint you when you see her in real :D ...your welcome.

Well, I have had a feeling about her future, but I will not discuss it here, nor with anybody else . . . and the things I see just come to me . . . like the earthquake and the girl and 9/11 etc, they come to me and I can't stop it from happening . . . I do have some info about our Lili but I tend to ignore the stuff about her and let it pass . . . sometimes I just see it or it comes to me as fact but I just go away and listen to some nice music like Chopin's nocturnes and Romances etc (honestly) just to get away from it . . . I'm tired

Maybe some day I will see her . . . I can't die without seeing her once . . . but I don't want to appear like some idiot/mentally deranged if I were to see her and start ballin my eyes out like a baby . . . at my age . . . I know . . . but you just think about these things . . . sometimes I just laugh about it . . . you kow . . . when you just shake your head at life with a smirk on your face and then laugh it out . . .

I don't know what else to say except that I could have said it better . . . it's hard

[KneeDeep]

Go ahead Orion, I'd be interested in what you think will happen with Alizée.

[Emmerdale001]

I know it may sound strange, Orion, but it seems you have an ability, a gift, very few have if it's true. Have you tried to develop this gift, to perfect it? Have you tried to, for instance, look at a particular person and try to see his or her future? To use it for some constructive purpose? Have you written down some of your observations about future world events, people, etc.?

[maxt23]

Orion, you're simply amazing. That's what I call ... a fan ... a real one hehe

[maxt23]

The U.S government will come and get you if you tell to much details ;)

No seriously, it almost freak me out. If something bad happen to Alizée ... you could feel it 2-3 weeks in advance.

[Orion]

Please, let's not take this too far. . .

I see things that come to me, I don't "go to them." Like the tsunami, I felt my whole body shiver and then I immediately saw it . . . I said that a large earthquake will hit in the ocean before the year ends . . . I told my sister-in-law about it and she did not believe me and I was PISSED OFF to say the least . . . wtf . . . "now I am, lying to you" . . . so needless to say when a small quake hit in Rome . . . she tried mocking me and I just said "no, this is a trick . . . what I saw was much bigger, of epic proportions . . . you ahve no idea." when the tsunami hit, I just looked at her in a way that told her not to doubt me again . . . I was very mad at her and she could tell.

I don't see everything 2-3 weeks in advance . . . other things come to me 30 days in advance . . . like the Bombings in England . . . I was told when I was at work and I had to hide myself because I began to cry.

I know it sounds strange but I am not a strange person . . . I am normal in every way . . . everything else is strange, but not myself . . . My mom said that I was special ( :roll: ) because of my birth . . . hence my full name (I think I mentioned this a long time ago) Mieh . . . I believe that we are all here for a purpose . . . and that we lose "the game" when we change how God sees us and knows our true self . . . we are not who we were intended to be, I tell certain people . . . just like Hitler or that guy that bugs you at school . . . ANd we can't blame God for what happens to us . . . I am a Roman Catholic and I know certain things that only a few people all over the world see . . . but good luck to any of us who intend to tell those things . . .

ANyhoo, I won't say anything about Lili, nor do I wasnt to tell myself anything about her . . . I sometimes fear that I cause problems . . .

I told my bro that his truck would get a flat next week and next week his tire blew . . .he called me to swear at me . . .One day I was walking home from school and got caught in 30below temperatures with a spring jacket on and a t-shirt underneath . . . so I was pissed and I was rushing home quickly . . . everything was quiet and then all of a suddena dog just started going niuts from inside a yard fence and I just jumped startled . . . I swore in Italian to it that I wished that damn barking got stuck in its lungs . . . immediatly after that, the dog started choking and trying to bark, but it just kept on choking . . . I have never felt so evil . . . yet, I couldn't stop laughing at the situation . . . I guess it's just suggestion because I once told somebody to take a flip and they slipped and fell on the floor right in front of me . . . as I tell you guys these things I just laugh because it is so funny . . . my family kids me that I am the bearer of "mal occhio" - evil eye hahahaha

with everything I have seen, this stuff gives me a little tension relief. . . I might be freakin some of you guys out or causing others to have bad thoughts towards me. . . you know who you are . . . just don't let what I say linger too long in your heads because it's not worth it . . . whwetehr to ridicule me or to think in amazement at the things that I go through . . . either way . . . it won't change the price of coffee in the morning :wink:

I am starting to feel like that guy from a Simpson's episode who said: "oh, I . . . I said to much." (James Woods episode) :cheesy:

Oh . . . I want you guys to try something . . . Look in the mirror from close range, at your face starting with your eyes, and then move down to your cheeks and then mouth and then go up to forehead and then eyes again, etc, but do this slowly and calmly, and above all in complete silence (if there is even a footstep near by or a clock ticking, don't do it) . . . some of you might see yourselves for the first time . . . you will become aware of yourself . . . and of how you look . . . it's something I do to other people and to myself and not everybody can do this, but just try it (do it slowly and look into your eyes from close range - do this slowly and methodically, and some of you will "realize yourselves" it is almost as if you see yourself for the first time). I hope it works for some of you . . . you must try it because I kow how that feels and I want you guys to experience this (my fingers are crossed, but of all the people that will try this --remember it must be completely silent or don't even bother--maybe only one or 2 of you will witness this) If you are succesfull you might blush . . . that's a side effect of this.

Now, I would like it if we could close this discussion becasue it is embarrassing for me :oops:

night all!

[YCZ]

^That is totally.....what can i say here? Like a twilight zone episode.
Or that Hallowen special Simpson episode where Bart was the monster who can change things with his thought.
:cheesy: Now start wishing for Alizée's comeback.

[Orion]

@ YCZ:

hahaha I have just finished my new video and decided to check out the forum . . . all I can say is thanks for giving me a laugh becasue that's just what I needed (I am truly laughing) . . . I got so pissed at my computer for really making me suffer to make this vid . . . tension is gone now and I can go to sleep . . . thanks to you

And for that, I wish you peaceful sleep too

(best line of the day: "Now start wishing for Alizée's comeback.")

[Akbar]

Hehe Orion. I find very interesting what you said about you. It happens to me too that I can forsee some things (in my dreams) but not at the magnitude you do. I think that is a gift. Be careful with your wishes (like the one with the dog) - evil wishes may make YOU evil. And yeah : Wish Alizee to start singing again :roll: :lol:

[Orion]

on behalf of everyone articipating in this disscussion, I want to say sorry to the mods for taking up so much "off topic" space . . .

on topic: I have said that I would love for her to come back on Feb 14 but she may even want to have her album released on the birthday of her child . . . but as I have said before . . . if March comes and goes and nothing happens, then I will worry . . . emotions sometimes get the better of us . . . when something happens it will hit us like a brick wall . . . for good or bad.

Come back soon Lili, we miss your music . . . everything about you that has kept us here

(damn . . . that's sort of on topic . . . this is Alizée news, not discussion . . . I'm lost :cheesy:

[eric]

some people are here becasue they fell in love with the image . . . and that's ok . . . pop artists present an image that will most likely get fans to fall head over heals for it . . . it's part of the business for male and female pop stars . . . but I don't care about any of that . . .

hell yeah! I'm sooooo in love with that lolita!!!!!

hope she dosnt change her image at all, but if she does, hope she's got the same haircut :wub:


@ Orion, I think the only way your gonna see her is in the consert...
I doubt it will be as painful as you think, well be shouting and singing along! crying and laughing. I bet its gonna be a hell of a show :cheesy:

[Orion]

some people are here becasue they fell in love with the image . . . and that's ok . . . pop artists present an image that will most likely get fans to fall head over heals for it . . . it's part of the business for male and female pop stars . . . but I don't care about any of that . . .

hell yeah! I'm sooooo in love with that lolita!!!!!

hope she dosnt change her image at all, but if she does, hope she's got the same haircut :wub:


@ Orion, I think the only way your gonna see her is in the consert...
I doubt it will be as painful as you think, well be shouting and singing along! crying and laughing. I bet its gonna be a hell of a show :cheesy:

hell yeah it's going to be a hell of a show (maybe "heaven of a show") she has changed her haircut alot, it seems but some change is good . . . and we have seen that in recent pics her hair resembles her MCE style somewhat . . .

and YES . . . it is my dream to go to a concert with you guys . . . I'll need the support . . . but sometimes I wonder if I should go by myself just for one show . . . people who feel sorry for themselves sometimes want to be alone :cry: . . . . :lol:

I'm a dreamer . . . I hope I really get to do what I want . . . a long time ago I said that I would love to have all you guys over at my house in Italy (near beach) but there I go . . . dreaming again

Someday . . . it's written, and so it shall be.
EDIT: I will remember to upload some pics of the house . . . (I promised a long time ago but . . . )
(btw, are we offtopic . . . :? sorry guys)

[Excellence knows no age]

... my house in Italy (near beach) ...

Aren't you living in Toronto at the moment?
and...I am happy to hear that you have a normal job...I was wondering whether you can combine a normal job with your vid-making and your longest post of the forum... :D
and...indeed we should try to keep on topic...someone complained about it some time ago (I don't recall who)...news?...anyone... :uh?:

[Orion]

... my house in Italy (near beach) ...

Aren't you living in Toronto at the moment?
and...I am happy to hear that you have a normal job...I was wondering whether you can combine a normal job with your vid-making and your longest post of the forum... :D
and...indeed we should try to keep on topic...someone complained about it some time ago (I don't recall who)...news?...anyone... :uh?:

Yes , I am . . . our house is in Southern Italy and we will never sell it . . . saome people have a cottage . . . we have a summer home in Italy hehe (it wqas given my my moms dad as a gift when my parents got married . . . it is the house that I grew up in - surrounded by fig trees and orange, tangerine, pomegrantes, persimmons olives . . . It's wonderful and good to know it is always there for me . . . we have added, over the years, 2 more floors on it so that it is now 3 floors . . . the roof is prob my fav place of the house . . . can see all the mountains etc from there and the sunset is wonderful . . .

yeah, these long posts are killing me . . . just LOLs and smileys from now on :P

anyway, I hope we hear something soon about Alizée . . . any rumors of late?? I haven't heard any . . . things seem too quiet, for my taste . . .

[Excellence knows no age]

...silence before the storm probably (it is a Dutch saying, I dont know whether it is a English one too...otherwise U might easily figure out what I mean)

[Orion]

yup. I do . . . very popular saying . . . I guess this makes things more strerssing . . . I just can't imagine when we finally do get word of an imminent release date . . . I don't think I will sleep the night before . . . it has just been too long sine we have seen her

[KneeDeep]

Until I read some of the previous posts, I was going to post that this should probably be in "discussion" but with the lack of news, this is it. :)

In the US the saying is "the calm before the storm". Then all hell breaks loose. lol

It would be nice if there was something. Even a small article in a paper. With a new pic? Oh well, we wait.....

btw half the time I can't even find my keys. Much less see 2-3 weeks ahead. :lol:

[Moco]

I've split this discussion from the Latest Lili Stuff thread, so feel free to go all out in here (although I see you guys have already done so :wink:).

[YCZ]

what does the word mean?

[maxt23]

Clairvoyance = Seeing thing before they happen ... to have the ability to see the future.

[Excellence knows no age]

... to give my opinion: I feel a little offended by this split-and-replace action. It wasnt news I agree (but we tried hard to mix some news in it, but there was none what so ever) ... but you should at least have replaced it in the Alizée discussion topic ... we were discussing Alizée all the time!

[Excellence knows no age]

... anyhow lets continue ...

... my house in Italy (near beach) ...

Aren't you living in Toronto at the moment?


Yes , I am . . .

I went to Toronto some months ago! Its a pitty i didnt know you at the time otherwise we could have met! I stayed in Toronto about a week. I pretty much liked it there with the small little parks in the down town area like the one next to St. James church if remember well ... we visited the Toronto islands (nearly got lost there you wont believe it). We ate a burger with some beer at the restaurant at the ferry point to the Westin Harbor and watched the sunset over the skyline. I liked it very much ... There works a girl at the restaurant originally from The Netherlands and she immediately recognized us as being from The Netherlands ... we had a nice little chat with her. Her parents had moved from Netherlands to Canada some time ago, but she could still pretty much handle Dutch quite well.

Of course we visited the CN tower too with the glass floor at 300(?) meters hight. And of course a visit to the Niagara falls. Its a must-have-seen.

[Orion]

It would have been great, but now we can look forward to seeing us all at a concert (when ever that will be)

btw, I really do think that this thread should not be named "clairvoyance" . . . that's not what it is about, it's preceded by something else and I don't want that title . . . I wasn't talking about phsychic stuff so much as I was talking about Alizée . . . whatever . . . it just diminishes the subject matter . . .but if this is the best place to put it for organization, then so be it . . . but the title sucks . . . sorry

[Le Fidèle]

although, i dont have these powers, i'v always woundered about going into the past, and try to prevent traggic events.

and ex. after 9/11 happened, i asked myself. if i could go back in time, how and what would you have done to prevent it. but mostly, would anyone believe you?


sorry, off topic. . .

orion, you have a special. . . . gift / talent, not sure how you want to look at it.

[Moco]

btw, I really do think that this thread should not be named "clairvoyance" . . . that's not what it is about, it's preceded by something else and I don't want that title . . .
I split the thread at the best place I could figure where the topic began to move in the direction of this special gift you possess, not necessarily the first mention of it. There wasn't a clear line where I could say, "OK, it's off-topic starting from this post", so it wasn't an easy decision. But the main point of the split was that it was taking place in the news thread. And if there's 3-4 pages of off-topic discussion, unrelated to any news, then I'll split it. Even though we try to index all news stories into the first post, there's still that thought that people are going to think theres some new news when they see an orange flag on the thread.

And if the title really bothers you, you can change it, since you have the first post. Although I'm not entirely sure if you can, since it's a split thread. But try it anyways, and if you can't just let me know what you want it to be called and I'll change it.

[Orion]

thanks Moco, but it's ok . . . we shall leave it the way it is . . . sorry to bug you.


Le Fidèle wrote
after 9/11 happened, i asked myself. if i could go back in time, how and what would you have done to prevent it. but mostly, would anyone believe you?

probably not, if you have prevented it . . . but I wouldn't have cared about belief . . . I would have used those powers to beat the stock market also :P . . . maybe see what it feels like to ruin naked in the streets and then get the hell outta there :lol:

seriously, GOING into the past is what psychics can do if they tell the future . . . they are already in the "past" if they know the fuure . . . and that measn you can alter it

(to build an actual time machine would require an enormous amount of energy to break the space time continuum . . . you would need the energy of a black hole . . . and even then you have problems due to stability . . . unless you find a way to pick up the signature of every event in history through as yet unidentified ether)

[staos]

although, i dont have these powers, i'v always woundered about going into the past, and try to prevent traggic events.

and ex. after 9/11 happened, i asked myself. if i could go back in time, how and what would you have done to prevent it. but mostly, would anyone believe you?


sorry, off topic. . .

orion, you have a special. . . . gift / talent, not sure how you want to look at it.

I thought about this too but realized that even if you were able to go back and warn about the events, you still wouldn't stop it. I heard that the government had been warned numerous times about it prior to the event but it was all ignored because apparently they get a lot of similar threats.

[Le Fidèle]

^yeah, thats exactly what i thought. . .

would i have to do what orion said?
run around naked out front the WTC and hold up a sign saying "the end is near!!!!"

[Orion]

although, i dont have these powers, i'v always woundered about going into the past, and try to prevent traggic events.

and ex. after 9/11 happened, i asked myself. if i could go back in time, how and what would you have done to prevent it. but mostly, would anyone believe you?


sorry, off topic. . .

orion, you have a special. . . . gift / talent, not sure how you want to look at it.

I thought about this too but realized that even if you were able to go back and warn about the events, you still wouldn't stop it. I heard that the government had been warned numerous times about it prior to the event but it was all ignored because apparently they get a lot of similar threats.

Here is a uncommon belief about 9/11:

The truth is slowly comming out, but people have their blinders on . . . . Bush is just a puppet; all presidents are just puppets . . . . there are people behind the scenes that run things unbeknownst to usually 99.9% of the worlds population. . . The terrorist attacks were the perfect tool to getting the U.S. government in to the middle east under the cover of a "war on terror." There are people in the U.S. 'government' that knew about the attacks before hand but decided to stay quiet since they had all the info anyways and knew what was about to go down . . . the investigations by the U.S into the 9/11 attacks have shown hints of what happened behind the scenes, but those were masked and presented to the public under terms such as "intelligence failures and communications breakdown" - pre attack . . . They knew it would be by planes and hyjackings and they knew the date too

At least that's what some people are saying :cheesy: . . . . . . . . . . . .







:whistling:

[YCZ]

thanks Moco, but it's ok . . . we shall leave it the way it is . . . sorry to bug you.


Le Fidèle wrote
after 9/11 happened, i asked myself. if i could go back in time, how and what would you have done to prevent it. but mostly, would anyone believe you?

probably not, if you have prevented it . . . but I wouldn't have cared about belief . . . I would have used those powers to beat the stock market also :P . . . maybe see what it feels like to ruin naked in the streets and then get the hell outta there :lol:

seriously, GOING into the past is what psychics can do if they tell the future . . . they are already in the "past" if they know the fuure . . . and that measn you can alter it

(to build an actual time machine would require an enormous amount of energy to break the space time continuum . . . you would need the energy of a black hole . . . and even then you have problems due to stability . . . unless you find a way to pick up the signature of every event in history through as yet unidentified ether)
Simplest way:
Go in both building pull the freaking fire alarm.
People on the plane will die but you save about 3000 people.

[staos]

Here is a uncommon belief about 9/11:

The truth is slowly comming out, but people have their blinders on . . . . Bush is just a puppet; all presidents are just puppets . . . . there are people behind the scenes that run things unbeknownst to usually 99.9% of the worlds population. . . The terrorist attacks were the perfect tool to getting the U.S. government in to the middle east under the cover of a "war on terror." There are people in the U.S. 'government' that knew about the attacks before hand but decided to stay quiet since they had all the info anyways and knew what was about to go down . . . the investigations by the U.S into the 9/11 attacks have shown hints of what happened behind the scenes, but those were masked and presented to the public under terms such as "intelligence failures and communications breakdown" - pre attack . . . They knew it would be by planes and hyjackings and they knew the date too

At least that's what some people are saying :cheesy: . . . . . . . . . . . .







:whistling:

It was the patriots. Dun dun dunnnnnn

[Orion]

EDIT: @ YCZ

oh yeah! well I gotta bett . . . . . . . D'oh

Maybe we can't go back in time . . . but we can go to the future permanently if we travel as close to the speed of light as possible . . . just to the point before all time stands still for you, at 186000MPS

changing subject:

has anybody tried that thing in the mirror I mentioned before? I am trying to make people see what I see when I stare at somebody . . . it's like an open book . . . and it is the strangest feeling; like the person's "self" is talking to me . . . everytime I do that I try to leave the person because there is too much pressure there . . . the only way you guys can mimick it is through that mirror thing . . . I have done it on myself like that, and was thinking that maybe others can do it . . . I don't know, it's probably me . . .anyway, thought you guys might like it if it works on yourself

let me know

[YCZ]

EDIT: @ YCZ

oh yeah! well I gotta bett . . . . . . . D'oh

Maybe we can't go back in time . . . but we can go to the future permanently if we travel as close to the speed of light as possible . . . just to the point before all time stands still for you, at 186000MPS

changing subject:

has anybody tried that thing in the mirror I mentioned before? I am trying to make people see what I see when I stare at somebody . . . it's like an open book . . . and it is the strangest feeling; like the person's "self" is talking to me . . . everytime I do that I try to leave the person because there is too much pressure there . . . the only way you guys can mimick it is through that mirror thing . . . I have done it on myself like that, and was thinking that maybe others can do it . . . I don't know, it's probably me . . .anyway, thought you guys might like it if it works on yourself

let me know
I will keep that in mind. Don't get chances to be alone at home these days. And in my apartment there are always sounds, clocks,fridge. Really hard to find a completely quiet place with a mirror in a big city.