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Excellence knows no age

15th January 2006, 19:30

hi everyone!

Can someone help me with the following question:

I have the Alizee-en-concert DVD. Of course I want to listen to it everywhere. So does anyone knows how to transform the DVD into something my diskman can play?

Your help is of uttermost importance! :D

PayBays

15th January 2006, 19:49

I have them all here... :lol:

Snatcher did it for me once,so if you want to have them just get me on msn :cheesy:

Excellence knows no age

15th January 2006, 20:20

I dont have MSN (truely). I would like to have an Alizee-en-concert diskman-version. Can you post it somehow?

Ekasra

15th January 2006, 22:19

I dont have MSN (truely). I would like to have an Alizee-en-concert diskman-version. Can you post it somehow?

buy the CD like i did :P

PayBays

15th January 2006, 22:46

I dont have MSN (truely). I would like to have an Alizee-en-concert diskman-version. Can you post it somehow?

Yes lemme upload some songs for you

PayBays

16th January 2006, 01:25

Finally,after 2 times uploading,here is the stuff:

link removed

Orion

16th January 2006, 02:03

ah man, if this is the CD of the "En Concert" you could have atleast posted it to PM . . . you bootlegger you . . . shame on you (*waves index finger*)

tern

16th January 2006, 03:12

Yeah, the uh.. internet secret police are gonna come get you. :roll:

staos

16th January 2006, 03:26

OH NOES!!! Its the mp3 police

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/2168/mp3police1eq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

RUN :!: :!: :!:

Orion

16th January 2006, 03:36

hahaha, very funny . . . very droll :cheesy:

I am part of the Alizée secret police . . . on operation "lili fields"

Nestonia

16th January 2006, 03:39

OH NOES!!! Its the mp3 police

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/2168/mp3police1eq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

RUN :!: :!: :!:

or they will find you

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9416/violent3sd.gif

vivaL´LiZe

16th January 2006, 03:57

You can download the tracks of the DVD using DC++... :roll:

Excellence knows no age

16th January 2006, 04:23

Yeah, the uh.. internet secret police are gonna come get you. :roll:

Whuhhh...I you think so...OK never mind...I will buy it in the stores way overpriced.

PayBays

16th January 2006, 20:49

Finally,after 2 times uploading,here is the stuff:

link removed

Sigh... :weep:

Get's down the basement to get hit for one hour long :weep:

RMJ

16th January 2006, 20:58

You can download the tracks of the DVD using DC++... :roll:
I hope you aren't one of those who shares it...

Excellence knows no age

16th January 2006, 22:12

What I initially meant was to make a copy of my DVD for my own use (that's legal right?) for my diskman. But then I have to change the audio-video format...

vivaL´LiZe

16th January 2006, 23:18

You can download the tracks of the DVD using DC++... :roll:
I hope you aren't one of those who shares it...

No, i don't share it... I only say that DC is agreat tool

PayBays

18th January 2006, 22:00

What I initially meant was to make a copy of my DVD for my own use (that's legal right?) for my diskman. But then I have to change the audio-video format...

It is legal yes...you have the stuff.You need to get it MP3 ( i assume you have MP3 player )

Excellence knows no age

18th January 2006, 22:06

I will try hard to change the audio-video format into MP3 :wink:

PayBays

18th January 2006, 22:16

I will try hard to change the audio-video format into MP3 :wink:

how about the stuff i gave you :shock:

if you want to save the stuff,use Premiero Pro 1.5 to rip the sound from the video

Excellence knows no age

18th January 2006, 22:49

SSSSSSTT! I just wanted to fool the one who removed your link...

Thanks again

Tyza

18th January 2006, 23:09

Buy the "En Concert" Audio CD.

RMJ

18th January 2006, 23:26

Buy the "En Concert" Audio CD.
It doesn't have all the songs. :(

Excellence, just use dvd decrypter to demux the stereo track from the dvd. Then convert that wav file to mp3 (or preferably to flac or some other lossless format).

PayBays

18th January 2006, 23:43

^ that's right...that's one of the reasons i begged ********* <--- name unknown
for giving me all the MP3's

Ekasra

20th January 2006, 00:15

Buy the "En Concert" Audio CD.

Even though i love lily, like RMJ said, not all the songs are there. And I've had trouble converting the songs on it onto my MP3 player. I came to see if I could get the Mp3s but i guess the link is down

Excellence knows no age

23rd January 2006, 22:49

I noticed that the DVD is not shot in one concert registration, but that it is a mix of more takes...for example in Gourmandises at 27:37 Lili and the mic change position from shot to shot!? (I watch the dvd every night so small inconsistencies begin to annoy me)...I suppose that it is normal to use multiple registrations...but does anyone know how many concert registrations are mixed?

And another thing I always wonder watching the dvd: Did they play the JPVA-dance remix at the final in the concert too? Some of you guys must have been there...
These dance remixes have also been released on L.P. which I have seen on her official site, but now i cant find them anywhere. Does someone of you bought the L.P.'s. It would be so cool to have a L.P.-player and play Lili's L.P.'s. :cheesy:

RMJ

24th January 2006, 00:28

The material on DVD is recorded in 2 concerts for sure. Possibly even 3 (or 4).

The detail you noticed during Gourmandises is one of the most obvious. But there's much more little details to see. Like her hair do changes...

The remix wasn't played live. And you can find it also from JPVA maxi CD (in case you don't have LP player). The one on DVD (Générique de Fin) is n't actually totally same as the SFaction Club Remix, it's just part of it. DVD version is 4:00 long, when original SFaction Club Remix is 5:45.

And yes... Some of us do have her LPs. :wink:

Excellence knows no age

24th January 2006, 22:03

I think they used more than one concert registration to use different camera angles...Its true, I have also seen many little details...for example she has worn a different dress every concert...

:lol: just joking :lol:

PayBays

24th January 2006, 23:33

RMJ

24th January 2006, 23:48

It's called mixing...

It's not big suprise if the soundtrack has small errors, too. That's why they recorded material in more than one concert. There's always chance that something isn't perfect in one record. So you can mix the concerts and make it more perfect.

It's done with video and audio.

Excellence knows no age

25th January 2006, 00:37

Some more interesting stuff

Her first Oh Loup Y'es Tu is probably playbacked...

I discovered it while making my second video ( which is freaking now )
She dances,then turns around and starts saying "Oh Loup" On the moment of Loup the song goes "Oh" She is walking behind scedule then,but she simply makes a larger dance after it

YOU MUST BE JOKING, RIGHT?

If she would playback in the Alizée-en-Concert she would damage my fealings for her forever! I am not watching a playback performance every night, do I? I like the dvd over all other performances because its one of the few that are not playbacked. By the way she is to good for playbacking anywayz.

But I do not agree with you PB! You mean that she is playbacking at the first "Oh Loup Y'es Tu" of the Gourmandises song that is time 29:22, right. How can you see what you say?: the camera is not even close-up if she sings "Oh Loup" for the first time. The camera does starts the close-up when she sings "Y'es Tu" and I see nothing strange there, image and sound are correct...Of course there is that funny background "Oh Loup Y'es Tu" with that cracking sound, but that is on purpose not exactly in time with Alizée's text, but that is for all "Oh Loup Y'es Tu" 's.

PB can you explain what you mean? I hope you are not joking around, because I take this very seriously. I wanted to :zzz: early today...but this needed immediate investigation...it took me ages to watch the song over and over again...

Anyone how might find evidence of playbacking in the Alizée-en-concert dvd: please notify it immediately! Then I think that I will never watch that vid again! :evil: Of course she has got two back-vocals, but that has nothing to do with playbacking of course.

In "He Amigo" (my favorite of the dvd by the way) I have earlier already noticed another suspicious moment (time 07:59). After the first refrain she want to start singing again drops the shoulders, opens her mouth ... but ... does not start to sing? IMO it is just mistiming of hers and it might have something to do with drumm beat at the moment she drops her shoulders?

...to be continued...

PB: no hard feelings, but I wouldn't like it (and then I say is nicely) if she would playback in Alizée-en-concert ...

RMJ: I think that you are the one who can help us here ... you are very good at this kind of stuff ...

RMJ

25th January 2006, 01:55

As said, the soundtrack is 99.99% surely mixed of more than one concert recording. As is the video (well, in videos case it's 100% sure).

You simply cannot get perfect error free track of a concert that lasts over one and half hours. If there's bad error in soundtrack then you need to fix it. Or if you need to fix video, then you need to resync audio again (which can cause small error in audio track, like the errors in vide when her hand is changing on mic between two frames).

It's not studio record but it is edited as is everything else that is sold in stores.

If you want to hear her true 100% unedited singing then go to concert (when there's next one...).

higa323

25th January 2006, 02:14

Orion

25th January 2006, 02:15

pop concerts are more prone to extended editting in the cutting room than say, rock concerts just because there is more commercial qualities in such genres where dance moves are just as important as the music, so to speak. They usually tend to get the best parts from all the shows - - and those that fit best together into one compilation . . .

Ekasra

25th January 2006, 03:45

YCZ

25th January 2006, 03:48

hehe her concert is on my ipod video so i can watch it when im bored

as to the noticable differences i cant see them clearly... other than mutiple camera doing different angles and yes i saw the one in Hey Amigo

its actually the only reason i'm buying one ( 1.5 weeks to doomsday) :P
I have considered buying an Ipod video for Alizee videos, then i relized that i will not have too much use of it, so i bought a nano instead. Loving it, Alizee anywhere i go.

Ekasra

25th January 2006, 08:18

I'm only paying for half, i only see my father once every 2-3 weeks or so and he trys to buy my love even though i don't want him to. :?

PayBays

25th January 2006, 12:49

Some more interesting stuff

Her first Oh Loup Y'es Tu is probably playbacked...

I discovered it while making my second video ( which is freaking now )
She dances,then turns around and starts saying "Oh Loup" On the moment of Loup the song goes "Oh" She is walking behind scedule then,but she simply makes a larger dance after it

But I do not agree with you PB! You mean that she is playbacking at the first "Oh Loup Y'es Tu" of the Gourmandises song that is time 29:22, right. How can you see what you say?: the camera is not even close-up if she sings "Oh Loup" for the first time. The camera does starts the close-up when she sings "Y'es Tu" and I see nothing strange there, image and sound are correct...Of course there is that funny background "Oh Loup Y'es Tu" with that cracking sound, but that is on purpose not exactly in time with Alizée's text, but that is for all "Oh Loup Y'es Tu" 's.

PB can you explain what you mean? I hope you are not joking around, because I take this very seriously. I wanted to :zzz: early today...but this needed immediate investigation...it took me ages to watch the song over and over again...

PB: no hard feelings, but I wouldn't like it (and then I say is nicely) if she would playback in Alizée-en-concert ...

I used some screens in my video, which is ***** up because of the Oh Loup Y'es Tu part.I know for 100% the whole concert is real,but why would her voice come earlier then her mouth?

I'm a bit worried about that part the camera get's in.You can't see very clearly what she sings and how she sings.But i know for about 99% sure her first Oh Loup Ye's Tu is something done with

Some people say the Album Gourmandises song matches the En Concert song,well that is not true.I tried to let the En Concert DVD in my creation,but it didn't became more then a mess because she doesn't sing like the album.

If you look very closely you can see the tiny difference.Maybe the microphone was jammed or something...I really don't know any explanation.Maybe it's that the sound comes to your ears a lot earlier then the video comes through your eyes?

Maybe I'm becoming paranoid...

I don't accuse her that she would playback every song,and even Gourmandises not.But it is very very weird she sings before the music starts...

You know I would never tell something bad about Gourmandises

Excellence knows no age

25th January 2006, 22:18

Some more interesting stuff

Her first Oh Loup Y'es Tu is probably playbacked...

I discovered it while making my second video ( which is freaking now )
She dances,then turns around and starts saying "Oh Loup" On the moment of Loup the song goes "Oh" She is walking behind scedule then,but she simply makes a larger dance after it

But I do not agree with you PB! You mean that she is playbacking at the first "Oh Loup Y'es Tu" of the Gourmandises song that is time 29:22, right. How can you see what you say?: the camera is not even close-up if she sings "Oh Loup" for the first time. The camera does starts the close-up when she sings "Y'es Tu" and I see nothing strange there, image and sound are correct...Of course there is that funny background "Oh Loup Y'es Tu" with that cracking sound, but that is on purpose not exactly in time with Alizée's text, but that is for all "Oh Loup Y'es Tu" 's.

PB can you explain what you mean? I hope you are not joking around, because I take this very seriously. I wanted to :zzz: early today...but this needed immediate investigation...it took me ages to watch the song over and over again...

PB: no hard feelings, but I wouldn't like it (and then I say is nicely) if she would playback in Alizée-en-concert ...

I used some screens in my video, which is ***** up because of the Oh Loup Y'es Tu part.I know for 100% the whole concert is real,but why would her voice come earlier then her mouth?

I'm a bit worried about that part the camera get's in.You can't see very clearly what she sings and how she sings.But i know for about 99% sure her first Oh Loup Ye's Tu is something done with

Some people say the Album Gourmandises song matches the En Concert song,well that is not true.I tried to let the En Concert DVD in my creation,but it didn't became more then a mess because she doesn't sing like the album.

If you look very closely you can see the tiny difference.Maybe the microphone was jammed or something...I really don't know any explanation.Maybe it's that the sound comes to your ears a lot earlier then the video comes through your eyes?

Maybe I'm becoming paranoid...

I don't accuse her that she would playback every song,and even Gourmandises not.But it is very very weird she sings before the music starts...

You know I would never tell something bad about Gourmandises

I am happy that we agree there is no playbacking in the dvd!

I do agree too that there is something stange at 29:22. There is at least a cut between two different concert registrations. When she sings "Oh Loup Y'es Tu" for the first time in the non-close-up she looks to the left and in the next shot - the close up one - she looks to the right and turns her head to the left. Clearly two different registrations.

... and it is funny to notice that you can clearly see how many cuts are in the dvd in the Gourmandises part just before the first "Oh Loup Y'es Tu" from time 28:50 to 29:18. The position of her hands and the way she holds the mic (left hand or right hand) changes so often from shot to shot! If you start to pay attention to these details, they really start to annoy you ... well me at least ...

tern

25th January 2006, 23:22

Paybays,
Many many editing and clip-splitting programs have problem with making the audio line up with the video. Does it sound right when you just play the video outside of your movie editor? It's one of the most common and annoying problems about video editors.

Excellence knows no age

26th January 2006, 23:08

... as you might have noticed I cant stop talking about the dvd! I like it so much :cheesy:

At the very start of the dvd you see all these little girls shout "Alizée ... Alizée". They pretent that the whole concert hall (bercy?) is filled with little girls ... I think that Alizée's music was initially indeed intended for little girls (<16 years). Therefore they looked for a young singer too. And thats why they gave a prominent role to the little girl in the clip of Moi...Lolita (Alizée's little sister in the clip).

However if you look more closely than you see that there are hardly any childern in the audience, at least not in the front. In the shot of Alizée from the back in JEAM at time 20:11, you see the first few lines of the audience in the background. => It are all guys like us!

They are of course attracted by her sexy look and attitude (I can tell). I think thats not what they initially intended. Since if you want that as manager you dont pick a 16 year old. It just turned out this way due to Lili's extrodinary talent of making guys fall in love with her the moment the see her. And her managers M&L didnt give a damn: they are only in it for the money ...

- this statement does not contain facts of whatever kind, it only represents the opinion of the author, thank you -

RMJ

26th January 2006, 23:13

They are of course attracted by her sexy look and attitude (I can tell). I think thats not what they initially intended. Since if you want that as manager you dont pick a 16 year old.
It's excatly what was intented. Understand the concept of lolita and you will understand why Alizée is what she is now.

There is some songs on Gourmandises that are more for kiddies but they plays just side role.

PayBays

27th January 2006, 01:11

Orion

27th January 2006, 01:15

but you are a teenager . . . so close enough :P

PayBays

27th January 2006, 01:16

but you are a teenager . . . so close enough :P

Sigh...what should i say... you are so OLD!

Grampa Orion :lol:

Excellence knows no age

27th January 2006, 01:32

It's excatly what was intented.

Does that mean that I am completely wrong? :shock:

(of course I know the "concept" (as you state it :D ) of lolita, it just slipt my mind for a moment I suppose ...)

RMJ

27th January 2006, 01:40

but you are a teenager . . . so close enough :P

Sigh...what should i say... you are so OLD!

Grampa Orion :lol:
Age brings wisdom... Kiddie. :P

Heh, seriously... I think Gourmandises have both sides. The kiddie side and the adult one. I both aspects. :)

Does that mean that I am completely wrong? :shock:

(of course I know the "concept" (as you state it :D ) of lolita, it just slipt my mind for a moment I suppose ...)
Well.. The way you put it there... Yes, you were completely wrong... about the reasons. Not so much about the causes. :)

eric

28th January 2006, 23:07

You can use Adobe Audiodition...

Or Adobe Premiere

Excellence knows no age

28th January 2006, 23:35

You can use Adobe Audiodition...

Or Adobe Premiere

Uh? :uh?:

Oooo ... you are back on topic! :cheesy:

Yes thanks, but the problem has been resolved a while ago with some MP3's and stuff thanks to **. Now we were just fooling around of-topic I guess ... and I can announce ... that ... I am working on a new THEORY! - so keep a watch on this thread in the next few days! ... (I wonder how much effort it takes RMJ to destroy my theories this time) ...

PayBays

29th January 2006, 00:29

^ don't wonder so much

He always has the good answer

He,Snatcher,Orion,Quentin and Ternuc are THE wiseguys of this forum

:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

RMJ

29th January 2006, 01:25

(I wonder how much effort it takes RMJ to destroy my theories this time) ...
Please... I could prove wrong even the theory of gravity if I was on the mood... :roll:

:lol:

Life is not ment to be taken seriously. :)

eric

29th January 2006, 01:43

gravity on earth?

Proove me and Isac newton wrong!

Excellence knows no age

29th January 2006, 02:03

Proove ... Isac newton wrong!

... this guy already did that:

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7856/einsteintongue9as.jpg