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Orion
21st December 2005, 20:44
I was wondering how many of the members here are part of hacker societies etc. I know a few of you . . . hiding behind this forum and are completely not who you say you are . . . come out with it. I know who you are but I will not say anything . . . a few of you are not even hackers but maybe not who you say you are :? I see you . . . . . . . . . . . . . and I know who you are!

Ned
21st December 2005, 21:35
<whispering>Sshhhh! You don't wanna wake them up! http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/7857/325zg.gif

Z3R0
21st December 2005, 22:10
Orion who am I? :mrgreen:

RMJ
21st December 2005, 22:36
I can admit it, I'm hacker. :)



Definition of hacker:


1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. RFC1392, the Internet Users' Glossary, usefully amplifies this as: A person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular.

2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming.

3. A person capable of appreciating hack value.

4. A person who is good at programming quickly.

5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in ‘a Unix hacker’. (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.)

6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy hacker, for example.

7. One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations.

quentin lee
21st December 2005, 23:18
I am not a hacker and I have nothing to do with the CDC, and Also I never goto Defcon, which is not held here in Las Vegas. I have never attended a 2600.

Henrik
21st December 2005, 23:21
Orion, I think the correct name is cracker, but many ppl mixes up crackers with hackers.

RMJ
21st December 2005, 23:33
Yup, 'hacker' and 'cracker' is mixed up. The word 'hacker' has become synonym for 'cracker'. Cracker is hacker who abuses his skills, uses them for illegal activities.

That is unfortunate. Like in earlier post quoted, word 'hacker' originally had positive meaning. Gone are those days.... thanks to media...

Orion
22nd December 2005, 01:17
Are you guys sure none of you have been to the Defcon 12 meeting? For the record, I am not a hacker . . . I am a . . . . Oh . . . I've said too much

ArlettyFan
22nd December 2005, 03:04
I've never been to a Defcon meeting. Maybe someone can tell me what that's about?

splur
22nd December 2005, 03:05
lol, I can't even program. :(

quentin lee
22nd December 2005, 03:58
Old school hackers and this new generation of hackers are two different things.

Old school hackers would break into systems for the persuit of knowledge and information about things relevent to them or the groups they represented. They were shadow soldiers against greedy conglomerates.

The new generation of hackers exploit for the benefit of themselves, reputation, and money. They do things to people for the sake of "status" and have no incling of remorse for the things they do to others. New hackers steal Identities to use for profit or aliases for other crimes.

Old hackers had respect for one another, they understood that the Governments held information on them and wanted to rebel for the sake of identity preservation. They possessed unique morals that were considered eccentric to moderm day social standards. Free information and the access to it, no secrets.

new hackers couldn't care less about these things and strive to persue their own motives.

It is night and day from ten years ago and now.

Orion
22nd December 2005, 03:59
I've never been to a Defcon meeting. Maybe someone can tell me what that's about?

http://www.defcon.org/

loff
23rd December 2005, 13:32
Isn't there a person here called defcon? :\

I don't even know visual basic or anything close to being that complicated. I should be able to make some crap using RPGmaker tho..

Le Fidèle
28th December 2005, 10:24
any one know how to hack www.myspace.com ???


lol, that would be. ... . . hack one of the most popular sites in the world. . . .
:twisted:

staos
28th December 2005, 12:55
That site has gone under alot of issue before. The most recent one is where someone managed to force everyone to add his name to their buddy list or whatever it called, even though they didn't know him.

PayBays
28th December 2005, 13:39
We all did some hacking before.Even at school i sometimes hack through the system to get on an other ones computer,steal the work he made and reboot his computer :cry:

AlizéeInMYHeart
28th December 2005, 13:43
I can hack my own account, that's all :mrgreen:

guess I'm a pro hacker then 8)

Tim
29th December 2005, 02:18
any one know how to hack www.myspace.com ???
http://rapidshare.de/files/10006363/lol.txt.html
>_>

There are a few exploits. For example, you can leave blank comments by exploiting the ­ bug.

fallenONE
29th December 2005, 04:45
So who hacked the forums? :uh?:

scorpio[pt]
29th December 2005, 18:16
hackers only discover exploits and security holes to improve security , crackers destroy everything on their path thats the diference :cheesy:

Le Fidèle
29th December 2005, 22:36
oO0Oorrr

fixer uppers find holes, to make them better. . . hence, fixer uppers. .


and hackers hack away destroying everything in their path.... hence "hack"er :cheesy:

Le Fidèle
31st December 2005, 12:16
damn!!!

speak of the devil. . .

just yesterday my MYSPACE acount wasnt working. . .

it siad "wrong password"

so i tried like 4 times, and then i had it emailed to my email adress,

havent heard a word from then since. . .

isnt email suposed to be fast? thats what i thought. . . i geuss i was "hacked" :?