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Achilles

21st December 2005, 08:39

staos

21st December 2005, 09:19

you should really change your sig. Im not sure if Slickis is still here but it looks really wierd (or funny if you're like me) having someone else's name in your sig.

Voice of Reason

21st December 2005, 09:39

When I grow up I will run Canada. The first thing I will do is to unite Canada, the United States, and Mexico and form our version of the E.U. That way we collect our strengths and have one currency which will eliminate illegals into Canada and the United States. We will have have the same opportunities.

yingying

21st December 2005, 11:05

Salut,

Yeh, I did say that I would leave here for some 2 months, for so busy in studying.However,I 've been missing you guys so much that I just can't bear.Morover,I think it's good to come here to communicate with each other and improve my English too.

OK,this is my topic.Yeh,next week it'll be the days that China has become the 4th largest economy-body in the world.China is about to surpass UK ,France and Italy in 2005.

The official statics has been launched out early today,that China 's GDP had made a progess of 16% in last year,the former outcome was wrong,because about 300 billion US dorlars was not included .So,the real GDP of china is 2000 billion in 2004.

Undoubtedly,this is an encourging piece of news to Chinese,and I think it's also to many other nations ,cos the development of China's economy could pull them forward.

Ironically we chinese even didn't know it ,we 've surpassed three big-bodies in sleeping.But I 'm feeling some fear that "China threat"will come up with its noises in the world .

oh,my friends,u are too sensitive.

the statitics of gdp is only a calculated game.it has nothing to do with the whelfare of the commen people.never forget that there are a lot of people whoi are ill-housed,ill-nourished,ill-clothed.do not forget that .

the statitics of gdp is only a game of the foreign exchange rate.the u.s. commercial offiier thought our foreign exhange rate is low estimated.and they want to let us to make our foreign exchange rate to preciate.but we did not ,,why???

because a low foreign exchange rate will be do good for our export.though if our foreign exchange rate goes to be appreciated that even the gdp number is higher than it is now presents.

do not concern the gdp number too much . it means nothing .u should think the walfare of the commen people.

have we done good enough ????no no no no no no !!!!!!!the gap between us and the advanced cultures is even larger than it used to be.

do not concern the gdp number too much . it means nothing .u should think the walfare of the commen people. it means nothing ......it is only a number of foreign echange rate game. it will never creat any new walfare.a good government should in the interest of its people.

do not concern the gdp number too much . it means nothing

Achilles

23rd December 2005, 06:54

you should really change your sig. Im not sure if Slickis is still here but it looks really wierd (or funny if you're like me) having someone else's name in your sig.

I'm sorry?I didn't know Slickis is the name of whom,I just found the pic very interesting and good.What you meant that he is one of members here,then that's great.Do you know him?Unless he himself turns out,I shall not change my sig.

Of course right you are!MY YINGYING!
GDP can't suggest everything, even the dummy knows it.Do you think CPC is whether putting its heart on the people's interests or not?If it's not,then tell me who has been doing it???GDP is nothing ,this is what you said.What is nothing?Maybe my English is too bad.Why the welfare of people in China now is so imperfect?Just because GDP is so low.China is as large as US,yes,Americans are doing well,their GDP is also 2000 billion???The country of you and me,the coutry which has the most abundant and deepest ancient civilization in the world ,has stepped a big stride forward,aren't you proud of!

Don't be too critical of your own country,never lose your firm confidence.[/list][/list]

Steve

23rd December 2005, 07:55

Ekasra

23rd December 2005, 08:04

I'm guessing the US's and Canada's economy are also high up there

staos

23rd December 2005, 09:37

I'm sorry?I didn't know Slickis is the name of whom,I just found the pic very interesting and good.What you meant that he is one of members here,then that's great.Do you know him?Unless he himself turns out,I shall not change my sig.[/list][/list]

You don't have to change if you don't want but I just wanted to let you know that you have someone else's name sticking out of your sig. I just thought it was strange anyone would even consider using a sig that blatantly shows someone else's screen name on it. Oh well.

Maybe you can even get Moco to change your name to Slickis :roll:

Ludicrous Maximus

23rd December 2005, 11:22

It's 4th in PPP (purchasing power parity) I think. And not in real market value right?

I'm guessing the US's and Canada's economy are also high up there

Well, Canada is in another league that the powerful countries, here we're talking of the full GDP and not per capita.

GDP per capita is more interesting to compare the popular standard of living, but on the top then are small states like Luxembourg, Norway, Switzerland or Denmark. PPP is often used to rate this number. In this context, China rates very low compared to the western countries (standard of living is much higher in the United Kingdom, France and Italy for insistance).

The full GDP is used to measure the whole nation and rate the "international weight" but this is were I'd like to know if the new Chinese values are in Purchasing Power Parity or in Real Market Value. Because the later is much more important for the international weight, a lot of things you buy internationaly go through the exchange rates and the Yuan is pretty low. Foreign debt is also sensitive to exchange rates (if you currency is losing values, your debt will explode, this is a high risk for the USA or UK for example that are countries with a very high foreign debt).

Achilles

28th December 2005, 08:31

Well..............How about your Chrismas?To you all.

yingying

29th December 2005, 10:00

You cant just use some one elses sig with there name on it!! Wheather they show up or not! But if your going for the tacky 'I have someone elses sig' image Im all for it!!

China's economy is booming but how long can it last? Probaly at least till a year after the Games, but then I think Chinese posistions on affairs around the world (esp Taiwan) will change. And then other countries will feel threatened.

can the economy booming last long ?debating this qiestion means nothing .the fact presents all the things ,and the future will also give a exact answer.let us change the topic.

stevei have read several posts of yours .i have learned that u do not have good attitude for china.of cause,i will not ask u change .

u are from new zealand,do u know the policy of australia?australia have been invovled in the korea war,in 1952;also involved in the war between usa and vietnam.it is true that australia had suffered a lot ,and lost too much. after the war ,alll the ranks of australia had been re-considering the wars he joined.just like the ameracians re-considering the war of vietnam.

from the above words we know that australia is very loyalty to usa.and the administers of australia is fulll of ideology system.

i think that the poll are the same both in australia and in new-zealand.people all in the two countries have bad attitude for communist government .i hope that i am wrong.both of the two countries want to be protected by the usa.

and unfortunatelly in geography speaking both the two countries are near asia,especially with indiannosia.do u think think it is wise eough for the two countries being isolated by asia and join the ameracia cintinent ?????

the people in the two countries are still doing the same things ,which is obviously wrong .

it is true that when china economy booming other countries will be feel threatened.i do not want to deny it .

but i think we should try to seek the reasons for the theory of china a threaten country.

1111 the theory was first prasented by japanese.why do u think japanese first presented it ?????/why they are afraid ???why they are worrying ???the people who want china to be a backward country eterally is japanese.i think u may know the reason of it.

22222222; the regulations of the world was constructed by the usa.i do not want to deny it .the more stronger china is ,the more threatern the usa will feel .the usa have interest all over the globe.

but why some other small countries are still holding the standpoint ??surely we know that the small countries are just the mouth-throat of the usa ,or the usa have great affection for the small countries,or in short we can say that the small countries do not have his own viewpoints in a sense.the small countries is the tool and the interest of the usa,and the usa is the protecter of the small countries.

33333333333;; it is true that in the recent years the economy of indina are still booming ,but why other countries feel indina as a threaten?because indina followed the orders of the usa.and china did not follow the orders of the usa.actually i think people in the west are enjoying the indina economy booming .they want indina to be a power,they like indina.

so do u think that it is china"s fault for itself to develop in his indepent
way ????do u think we have responsibility to follow the orders of other countries ???????

do u think that we the chinese have responsibility to follow the orders of the soviet union or do u think rthat we have responsibility to follow the orders of the communism ideology ??no ,,no ,,no no no .

sinnce 1949 china have been involved in 4 wars .1950-1953 wars in korea ,in this war we are not he victor nor the usa;

1962 wars with indina,in the war we successed very easily,the indina army were very bad ,from that point i know why the indina had been a colony for 100 years while the chinese are still struglling for its indepence though we were very backward that time,indina people do not want to grow in his own way ,do not have couragement,are easilly subordinate to other people .in the greate old civilizations about all of them have been vanished,the old roman ,the old indina,the old egypet ,the old bibilong ,but china still existing very well ,and u can not find its old symptems.

why ????????

because we do not subordinate to other people !we have our own way .i think the chinese words of "有骨气“(forgive me to post in chinese here ,but i can not chose the exact english character to express my intention or in english there do not have a word to express this meaning )can best describeour people .we do not like surrender,,so simple.

so because of this ,the theory of china threaten appear!

1962 war with soviet union :why we had a war ?because the soviet union want to interfere with our home affairs, and we do not like the russian beeing involved in our home affairs .so simple.we want develop in our own way .in a sense war can solve the problem .

1979 war with vietnam.it is also a war against soviet union ,in that time the vietnam was very loyalty to soviet union ,and in a sense ,we were flattering on the usa,because the usa did not very well in the war of vietnam .we were doing in the interest of the u.s.

from the above words we know that we are not a threaten but because we want to develop in our own way .in fact any country can be a threaten especially the power such as :usa, japan ,german ,france,uk,indina.and russia.

so why do u call them the threaten?

it is not our fault to develop in our way but other's fault to interfere our home affairs .

george washington said that ：a people who indulges himself in resent and admiring is just a slave of his own emotion .-----------so let us get rid of old vews.

:P :lol: smile to each other. :P :lol:

please trust that : we love peace but we also have couragement ,we have did greate contribution to the world peace.

also u should know that whether u like china or not the best choice for u to choose is that if u want to benefit more is to be the friend of china but not the antagnist

yingying

29th December 2005, 11:23

1962 war with soviet union :why we had a war ?because the soviet union want to interfere with our home affairs, and we do not like the russian beeing involved in our home affairs .so simple.we want develop in our own way .in a sense war can solve the problem .------------------to modify it as follow 1969 war with soviet union

loveherfromusa

29th December 2005, 11:31

Where is Bill Gates in the ranking of GDP? I know he has more economic resources than many countries.

Achilles

31st December 2005, 07:24

YCZ

31st December 2005, 07:34

Achilles

31st December 2005, 08:39

Not to get political here, but i don't see China as a superpower when communists are in charge. With their corruption the world might see china as maybe somewhat powerful, but chinese people are still suffering from extrem censorship and the inbalance between the rich and the poor.

Oh ,damm you,my buddy,hahhahha...You just know nothing about China!It is right that China is not a superpower right now ,but it will be ,anyone not foolish knows it.Don't you think CPC is nothing ,the most useless party in history???!So,please explain to me how China has been devolepping so well?What r your critia for evaluating a party?Yeh,I'm one of Chinese people here,inbalance ?!Do you feel you are equal to the Chancoller ,do you feel you are equal to your country's millionnaires?

I personally think they r gonna fall in maybe 10 years or even shorter. Let's just see what happens and i hope it will happen soon

OK,let's wait!

yingying

31st December 2005, 09:14

We didn't have a war with SU,but the situation was quite intense then.
not intese situation .if it is not war ,what is it ? soilders died,shooting ,tanks moving ,people preparying…………
then what is it ????

Not to get political here
general disscussion allows people here to talk politics,or , this is not a political issue ,but an economic issue,or the impression of our country ,i do not appreciate the man showing bad attitudes for our country especially the one in chinese descent and insisting that he comes from beijing ,u lost the face of your vanity decent .
where are u from ?i do not know.you have said that u are british ,canadian ,or from beijing , i do not know exactly your nationlity .u have given so many answers.but i know that you can read and write and speak in chinese.

but i don't see China as a superpower when communists are in charge
of cause ,in present china is not a superpower.i do not want to deny it .but i am confident in the future .
i think u should have your long perspectivs.u should try to accept the reality of china but not despising it .do u think u will be respected by others since u despising your people .it is vanity made it .
some years later u will be proude of being descent .but u should know that u did nothing to your people but only despising her not pretty history .
fortunatelly china's not pretty history only lasts 100 years(1840-1949), i do not know what will happen if that would longger .maybe u claiming that u are not chinese in descent but japanese descent .or other .

whether china is a power does not depends on the who are the leading party .

commen sense will be ok . the rulling party should administer his country with commen sense .

both communism and captilism are religion ,and a puppet ,only a mental tool used by the leading parties in order that he- the small interest group will rulling easily .

from what u have said u are showing your naive and stupid .do not have your own judgement ,just like a parrote .

also u should know that u can critisize the communist but u can not critisize the chinese people ,u can stain the communism but that u can not stain the chinese people ,u should know that the progress of china did not produced by communism but by the commen people here ,the commen people who are brave enough ,also clever enough , u will never know the potenatiality of the commen people here .

With their corruption the world might see china as maybe somewhat powerful,
in your words i know that u are Wang Jing wei in a sense .u betry your people ????japanese wishing that ,may be u are japanese ....------------only from this words i can despise u .u are a man without dignity without principle.

but chinese people are still suffering from extrem censorship and the inbalance between the rich and the poor.I personally think they r gonna fall in maybe 10 years or even shorter. Let's just see what happens and i hope it will happen soon
it is true that leading party of china is dictiting ,but is always dictating means nothing ???do u know singapor??it is also a ditating country !and the son of Li Guang yao may be the next chanssellerof singgapore.in a sense democracy means low in efficient and some parliaments are mere a forum for invective.
also u should know that in west culture people despise the politicians ,,why??????
because they have nothing to show off ,but his only mouth ,only speaking ,only giving lies !!!!
in my own opinion that if the leading parties are smart and wise enough ,a backward country should have a dictatership political system ,because if he want to catch uo with the advanced countries he must focus all his strengh in one point .a democracy political system will disunite and distribute the limited resources for its developing .
also u should know that we are not suffering , actually i think u haved lived in beijing for some years .do u think we are suffering .

the following is what we are doing :
earning money ,;doing sporys ;every day internet ;people who knows about english may listening bbc,sleeping ,eating ,watching tv,communicating with email and cellphones,watching the films of the latest hollywood,loving ,studying ,just the same as u are doing ,
so please do not distort the reality ,will u ?????what is your intention by your distorting the reality ?????????????????????????????

of cause the i admit the the gap between the rich and the poor . and th egeni coeffience is not optimistic either .but please do look this in a process perspective .do u know when did china begin to develop fast,let me tell u ,,it is since 1990,although we reformed since 1980 but we still develop very slow because it is hard to change the thoughts of the commen people .so we have developed only 15 years .do u know what other countries claiming ?????they claiming that :china =threaten .do not forget that usa,japan, uk,german ,france have developed 100 years .and if china can achieve all his aims till 2025 ,do u think that chinese are a great people ??????we did all the tings in 30 years and others used 100 years .
u will be proud of being chinese descent one day ,and this can be achieved in your life times .let us waiting for the future .but please do remember that in the old days u dispised you people,and u did nothing contribution to your people .and fortunatelly there are so few cons just like u !!!!if all the people here in china are the same as u ,then china will have no future.
in later times,please do not say that u are chinese in descent ;of course also ,u do not like to admit your chiese descent too.

YCZ

31st December 2005, 20:57

wo.... :shock:, i didn't exspect that coming....

Achilles

1st January 2006, 07:09

Yes,you just "fei"and "piao",and once you go abroad,you forget your homecountry,yeh,Chinese always like to critize themselves!!!

YCZ

1st January 2006, 09:09

yeah :D very true.....and oh yeah, i didn't stop loving my old country,
i just started hating commnuism

Achilles

3rd January 2006, 07:56

Hating communism equals to hating your "old coutry"--China!

staos

3rd January 2006, 08:19

Hating communism equals to hating your "old coutry"--China!

That makes no sense. How does hating communism the same as hating your country? Government does not equal country. You can still love your country even if you dislike your governments.

YCZ

3rd January 2006, 09:48

Hating communism equals to hating your "old coutry"--China!
just by that i realize u r a fool under the mind washing of the communists
(seriuosly i feel sorry for u man)
Commnuism really sucks man, I was in BeiJing and everyday they teach u how commnuism saved the old China and how u should love them and give them ur all. They even made u sing songs to praise for them. That started in preschool!!! They poison the mind of the young and trick them to believing those commnuism shits. And trust me i was like u I would piss off at all of those who dare defined them. And i was a damn fool.
Not after i came to the free country of Canada that China was a country with extreme censorship. They cover up all the bad story of china, they blocked all foreign internet connection and even distract the radio signal.
If u live in china the only thing news u know is great news. Do u know how long they covered SARS up until is too big too cover up anymore?
Like 2 month and that delay the whole thing for the entire world!!! U say i forgot about my old country? Hell no i think about China everyday and how the people is living. Do u now how much ugliness and corruption i hear everyday about China here? So much and so sick i don't even want to think about it. And you still think communism=savior of china?
U know what the truth is? Communism is the reason why china is not strong, communism is the reason why china is totally f**ked up. I hope when u read this, don't reply and diss me with those communism shits. Dude just think about it for one second,plz. Only by us the youth understand this will we overpower the dictator ship of communism.

If u think what i wrote is too long and ur time is too precious for u to waste here then plz be my guest and ignor me.

I tried post this in Chinese forums but they delete it for about 3 seconds so only foreign sites are the only place can i express myself.

And do ur self a favour, check out some foreign news site plz and find out about commuism, plz. If educated youth like us got poisoned then i have to say China is seriously f**ked.

Archill u r the one who knows nothing about China not me. All u said is that China will be strong and superpower. Well what kind of empty promise and bullsh*t is that? China's natrual resoures are seriously used u just think we rich cause "the man said so".

Yingying is u r reading this, if u think i m just a ungraceful bastard who forgot his home country cause i left it. U r dead wrong!!! I respect u and i know u r well educated and very knowlegeble, but u have to stop lying to urself and believes China is doing fine with communism in charge. Let me tell u this, China is not doing fine with communisim. U live in a big city and u believe everything around u. I know how big city in china is like. As great as any city in the world like Paris or NewYorkCity. But what about the poor, China is hell to them, there is no social sercurity what so ever in china. The poor basically gets shit. They have no gurantee that they will have shelter and food the next day. Do u know how high the suicide rate in china is? no u don't cause the man never said it and they don't want u to know. I hope u r not some rich kid who can get whatever u want. Cause all those things u wrote made me relize u r nothing but a person blinded by commuism.

tern

3rd January 2006, 09:55

I don't think I'll ever travel to Asia. It's just not a very compelling place. I think I'll stick to Europe, New Zealand, and maybe Central America for some nice weather. 8)

Ludicrous Maximus

3rd January 2006, 20:06

When hating communism turned to hating China? I'm not quite fund of communism, I'm a solid "republican jacobinist" and I don't hate China at all.

And China isn't yet a superpower, today there is only one superpower and it's the USA.

If you add the allied countries to their political power it's even worse.

yingying

4th January 2006, 12:15

just by that i realize u r a fool under the mind washing of the communists
(seriuosly i feel sorry for u man)
in a sense, i think u are right .but i think u are too extreme and too radical. if his head has been wasded by the communism ,i think your head has been washed by the capilism .do think it is true?????

Commnuism really sucks man, I was in BeiJing and everyday they teach u how commnuism saved the old China and how u should love them and give them ur all. They even made u sing songs to praise for them. That started in preschool!!!
They poison the mind of the young and trick them to believing those commnuism shits. And trust me i was like u I would piss off at all of those who dare defined them. And i was a damn fool

every government doing the same things,both communism government and captilism government . they all want to rule easily and smoothly .if u thing that i am wrong ,so just looking at the people in the west ,most of them do have bad attitude towards communism.do u think they are smart and wise enough ?/??no no no !~! all the people will be affacted by his government .

does captilism always right ??? do not forget that in the 1940s the gap between the rich and the poor are still very high both in japan and usa. the 1907 ecnomic crisis was almost a fatal attack towards usa.

both communism and captilism have his own drawbacks.if u are just insisting the drawbacks of communism and ignoring the drawbacks of captilism i think it is u who are just in a mental jail of the captilism ideology
Not after i came to the free country of Canada that China was a country with extreme censorship. They cover up all the bad story of china, they blocked all foreign internet connection and even distract the radio signal.
still u are in the prison of the captilism ideology.and i think u are enjoying it .
in fact i think i can glance wiki sometimes ,and can glance the websites of cnn, i am telling the truth .
i know that canada ,australia,and new zealand are too affacted by the cold war ideology while the ameracians have get rid of it .i think this is the reason why usa is the leader of the 3 countries.in their newspapers ,tv,internet , it is rare for u to read good comments of china.they are deeply affacted by a mental tool, and unfortunatelly u are living in one of them . i think u will change your mind if u live in usa.u are still in a prison^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
knowlegeble, but u have to stop lying to urself and believes
acyually i do not think i am lying .of course u have your rights to doubte of this .i think the fact will give a good explanation .
world like Paris or NewYorkCity. But what about the poor, China is hell to them, there is no social sercurity what so ever in china. The poor basically gets shit. They have no gurantee that they will have shelter and food the next day. Do u know how high the suicide rate in china is? no u don't cause the man never said it and they don't want u to know. I hope u r not some rich kid who can get whatever u want. Cause all those things u wrote made me relize u r nothing but a person blinded by commuism.
i do not live in a big city , i live in weihai in shandong province, do u know ????
it is a tourism city ,the sightseeing very good here . have u read my information under my avator ?????????of cause no !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and in your words u still shows that u are not familiar with the geography in china.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,also i can know that your english is not good enough, :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

of cause i am not rich, in fact i think i am poor . but i will not despise my country just because of my poor .but u are doing it ,,,,which loses your vanity face !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i have admited that the gap between the rich and the poor are not optimistic many times. but i think they will be changed .
time will solve the problem .............do u know ????????????
do not forget that in the 1940s the gap between usa and japan are still not optimistic in the poor and the rich affairs...................
chgina will do better and better ,but do not think that will be good enough in just a moment ............we need time to change ,,,,,,,,,,we need tolerate the bad affairs in the present situation ............please look something in the perspective of a process ........the developped countries developed for more than 100 years ,do not forget that .
china need time .and only developed about 20 years ...please do not compare china with the developped countries in some affairs,it is not justice.because the have developed for more than 100 ,while china only 20 years.

in fact ,,,, in my own opinion ,,,,,,i do not think we are a communism country .......we are doing the same things as the captilism country .....now many people in china do not think china is a communism country . also many west people think china is not a communism country.(glance the thread named communism posted in october).if there some drawbacks in china now ,,may be just the drawbacks of captilism .. :?: :?: :?: :?:

also , i do not think i am in a prison .u are living in a prison but still u enjoying it . actually i am familiar both with west and east culture............i am just the outsider........all the words i posted showed that i am not living in a prison ,,,,in think ...

i think china needs peace to develop ,needs stability.so please do not make trouble affairs with china .if all the people are the same as u ,,then i think a civil war will happen ,and that is just a fatal attack towards china .so let us just tolerate the bad situations and unite as a hole body ........and confident we will do better and better.....

Communism is the reason why china is not strong,
the reason why china lagged to the advanced culture is that we did not work as a whole cfountry ,,,,and still our thoughts were backward ,,did not open up to the reality .
in 1900s china is also a backward country,,and in that times china is not a communism-leading country .....do u know that ???????????
but i do know that since 1949 we stand up again ....the whole country united again .....develop in our own way .....never forget that Gumingtung party has no independent rights,they are the puppet of USA government ....

actually i do not think communism is good enough ..also i do not think captilism is good enough either ....i know they are just a tool used by the leading parties,,so that they would rule the country easily .............

let us calm down ..............
change the topic^^^^^^^^^
8) 8) 8)

YCZ

5th January 2006, 01:48

When did i ever say i despise my country? I just think they made it pretty screwed up.
U don't think China is a commiusm country? I guess u don't know china that well.
I don't know china Geographically? how do u know? Just cause i didn't notice ur avatar?
Also did i ever brag to u about my english? i never said i was really good.

PS: i guess u r wiser than archill, that guy did nothing but to diss me cause i don't like commisum.

Achilles

7th January 2006, 08:37

I feel very very sorry for the delay to answer you cause I have been so busy these days!!!
Firstly,My name is Achilles,not archill,have you got it???
Second,my reply is short because my English is very limited and the most important I have no time to type so long and boring piece.I haven't been doing nothing,it is just because I 've been doing too much.
Thirdly, there is no point making an eye for an eye,I can't promise ,so do CPC,that China will surely become one of the world's most prosperous and richest and strongest country in the future,who can know the future???But I believe ,and China believes.Let's wait ,I believe you will definitly regret your words now,yeh,you will!
Finally,you are really really fucking bitch!!!So,never miss your China,and never come back,try to be your freeman,but I shall work for my China to make her more and more prosperous !

YCZ

7th January 2006, 08:59

Finally,you are really really fucking bitch!!!So,never miss your China,and never come back,try to be your freeman,but I shall work for my China to make her more and more prosperous !

um... ok?
First, u know nothing about China.
Second,I don't really care what ur name is.
Third, I never insulted u using harsh lanugae and i m not gonna diss u back, cause i have more class then u do(and definally the knowledge about China and everything around the world)

Achilles

8th January 2006, 07:48

OKAY, .I'll try to get to know my China.

Ludicrous Maximus

8th January 2006, 12:46

Taken from WAFF:

Those who grew up during the Cold War may have trouble keeping up with shifts among major world powers. Some still think that Russia will reemerge as a superpower, even though it is not even one the world's top 15 economic powers. One may dismiss Japan as a major military power, not realizing that it is the world's second largest economic power whose military spending exceeds that of China. The respected Economist magazine recently published: "World in Figures, 2004." Data has been extracted from this book to provide a brief comparison of world powers in 2004:

Population is one measure. While Western military analysts focus on material, manpower is critical. Providing AK-47s and RPGs to several million men creates a powerful force, albeit not one capable of major operations. Recall that a million Chinese foot soldiers fought the modern US Army to a stalemate in Korea, and thousands of illiterate Somalis mauled US Army Rangers in 1993. Today, the most populous nations are: #1 China; #2 India (which will surpass China by 2030); a distant #3 United States; #4 Indonesia; #5 Brazil. Pakistan is #6, just ahead of Russia. Bangladesh is #8, Japan at #9 and Nigeria at #10.

Gross Domestic Product is a measure of economic activity, not of wealth, and total population is a major factor. The busiest economies are: #1 United States; #2 Japan (about half of the US); #3 Germany; #4 United Kingdom; #5 France. Yes, the UK and France remain ahead of China which is #6. Surprisingly, Mexico is #9 and Brazil #11, while Russia is way down at #16, even behind South Korea at #13 and the Netherlands at #14. Keep in mind that GDP is misleading. For example, at least 10% of the GDP for the USA comes from borrowing overseas, something that will end, some day. In addition, some 3% of American GDP is created by civil lawsuits because that is "activity."

Current Account is a measure of which nations are accumulating wealth though savings and have an annual surplus: #1 Japan; #2 Russia (rebuilding); #3 Norway (lots of oil profits); #4 Switzerland (secret banking); #5 France. Nations which are bleeding wealth through borrowing have an annual deficit, and are led by: #1 United States, which has an annual deficit 17 times greater than #2 United Kingdom; #3 Brazil (improving though); #4 Mexico; #5 Spain. One final measure is Industrial Output: #1 United States; #2 Japan; #3 China (growing rapidly); #4 Germany; #5 United Kingdom. Of interest is South Korea at #9 while Russia is way down at #14, behind #13 India.

World Powers in 2030?
#1 China
#2 European Union
#3 Japan
#4 United States (bankrupt)
#5 India
#6 Korea (unified)
#7 Russia (recovered)
#8 Brazil
#9 United Kingdom
#10 Mexico

While the United States is the clear superpower today, the European Union surpasses the USA in population, GDP, and industrial output. So if the EU continues to merge politically and militarily, it will become a superpower. China's high growth rate will allow it to match the United States economically by 2020, perhaps sooner if the USA suffers a major economic setback by failing to address its massive current account deficit (budget and trade imbalances.) Although Japan will lose population in the years ahead, it is likely to remain the world's most technologically advanced nation. It will prosper once it finds more cash paying customers and stops granting $200 billion in credit each year to the soon to be bankrupt USA, which will be forced to cut it's military budget in half. India is growing fast and Brazil is booming due to the increased worldwide demand for raw materials. Pakistan and Indonesia have potential, but political instability is likely to hamper development. These are just basic statistics, but they probably surprise many readers who have not updated their perceptions of world powers.