Smoking

[Ron V.]

Thought it would make for an interesting discussion, especially since some new laws passed in my state recently have me thinking about it.

Now, I don't deny that it's quite unhealthy, but I do enjoy smoking for a myriad of reasons. I do try not to smoke around those that have a problem with it as well. Now, what's irking me is that they've passed a law here banning smoking from all public places, even bars and pubs.

My problem with this, is that they aren't even giving the establishment the choice of putting in a smoking section or not. I wouldn't care if all the restaurants decided they didn't want anyone smoking, but I do care that they don't even have the choice. If there was a choice, and there was a real split between smokers and nonsmokers, there could be places for smokers and places for those that don't want to be around it. It's not a mind altering drug, you're not gonna smoke a cigarette then go nuts on someone or misdrive a car. It only harms the user as long as he's sepereated from non-users. It's no worse than overeating (which is a HUGE problem in the US), but they're acting like it is. They're taking personal responsibility away from us. If they can't put a food limit on people in resaturants, how can they do this? Just kinda ticks me off. Alcohol is much more dangerous, but they have no problem with that. Hypocritical? Yes.

What do you guys think? (feel free to discuss anything smoking related, not just this particular issue)


edit - as per request, I'll add a poll to see how many smokers we have here, purely for posterity of course

[Steve]

A poll would be nice!! Do you or Dont you?? I smoke when Im out with friends having a few drinks etc

[PayBays]

If i smoke i die...it's easy....

[DavidAlizée]

Well, they have banned smoking in places like that around here also. Scotland mainly.. But, some places still allow it, with signs. I can see the point of the rule as a non smoker, but my parents smoke and i don't really have a problem with it to be honest. If people smoke around me, i don't mind. I won't be living long enough anyway to suffer long term causes of cancer. I messed about with asbestos as a kid, all of us did.. so i'm probably f*cked anyway now lol..

If smokers want to smoke in pubs and clubs, that is fine. restaurants or places where little children attend, then i agree with non smoking. Even tho drinking is worse than smoking, one can't die from passive drinking. So i guess it makes sense to protect the public that are non smokers. I don't fully agree with it tho..

[Ron V.]

See, my problem is that Im'all for protecting those that don't want to be around it, but this can be accomplished with less extreme measures. As long as they make it more secluded, that'd be enough, then the smokers are only harming smokers. Any more extreme and it's like the government controlling how much tv we watch, or what kind of food we can eat. The government shouldn't control something beyond protecting other individuals. If it only harms the person, then it should be that person's problem.

[DavidAlizée]

Well, thats the goverment for ya. They control so much, and want more. I would normally say, even tho you want smokers to smoke with other smokers, so its no big deal. Sure, that is a health risk for you. Granted you smoke, but i would like to believe that the rule was to protect the welfare of smokers also, but hoping they can cut down. i don't really believe that, i know it is just to protect non smokers in the long run. If the goverment could control how much Tv you can watch, the scary thing is, they would. Too much power..

[Ayan]

Smoking in public places shouldn't be allowed - I welcome that law. Infact that law has been passed in many countries around here aswell.

Unfortunately many people I know are smokers, yet they have mentioned that when they are in a restaurant or any other food establishment - then even they don't feel like smoking. Supposedly it has got something to do with losing appetite.

Alcohol is much more dangerous, but they have no problem with that. Hypocritical? Yes. Most people have a nasty habbit - they want to breathe. Like ... all the time.

Lungs, brain and blood vessels are perhaps more important than liver and such, hence the "hypocrisy" ?

[Steve]

In NZ you cant smoke in bars. workplaces etc but outside in public areas its fine, still with these laws it hasnt stopped people smoking!!

[Melodramatic]

As for me, I don't smoke. I tried it once when I was 13 & it only took one huff & puff before I nearly choked to death. I don't like girls who smoke either. It reminds me of my dad's breath so a girl with my dad's breath would be impossible to appeal to me.

Despite of the seriousness of this thread, I found it funny when I first saw it on the General Discussions having the racy title of "[Poll] Smoking". Get it? Poll Smoking. Hahaha!! :lol: I'll shut up now. :shutup: :lol:

[Ron V.]

Lungs, brain and blood vessels are perhaps more important than liver and such, hence the "hypocrisy" ?

Alcohol affects the brain a LOT more than nicotine.

[Ayan]

Not really, no. There was a scientific study released, according to which it is humanly impossible to consume so much alcohol that it would start affecting your brain.

[Moco]

...I found it funny when I first saw it on the General Discussions having the racy title of "[Poll] Smoking". Get it? Poll Smoking. Hahaha!! :lol: I'll shut up now. :shutup: :lol:
Oh man, always got sex on the mind... :P

I don't smoke either, and I absolutely hate being around people who do smoke. The one important difference in this case between drinking and smoking is that your health isn't at risk when you stand next to someone having a drink. There's no such thing as "second-hand drinking". Drunk driving, you say? Well that's not the alcohol doing the killing, it's the person. So, needless to say, I'm all in favor of banning smoking from public places. You want to kill yourself with cigarettes? Fine, go ahead and do that, but do it in private and don't get other people involved.

For me, one the downsides about visiting Europe is that people are smoking everywhere. That along with all the air pollution in Paris and Rome, I had some nasty black boogers at the end of each day. Eww...

[Misfit]

I'm pretty much against smoking. Having a ciggarette or two at a party when you're drunk is ok in my books but chain smoking on the other hand is not. I have a cousin (my age) who smokes like an old movie star and it just sickens me when I hear him cough.

He says he's going to quit when he's 18. Yeah right.

My brother (who happens to be a fan of Alizée) managed to quit smoking by going cold turkey. I'm very happy for him and he says he feels so much better then when he was smoking.

[loff]

I'm kinda allergic, so that's an easy choice..

[Ron V.]

Not really, no. There was a scientific study released, according to which it is humanly impossible to consume so much alcohol that it would start affecting your brain.

Are you kidding me? People have turned into retards from alcohol. It affects the brain a hell of a lot. Memory, mechanics, all that stuff.

[Z3R0]

I dont have a problem with smokin, but I do think that law they passed in ur state mayhem is a little screwed up :roll:

[ArlettyFan]

Not only that, but there have been some counter arguments made by medical researchers and the FDA that second hand smoke is actually not proven to harm other people, since they aren't breathing in tar. Wether these counter arguments are subsidized by Big Tobacco or not remains a mystery, but they don't seem to be heard... There are so many publications that claim full proof in the damage of second hand smoke. I don't even know what to believe... Nor do I really car healthwise as far as I'm concerned.

I don't smoke, but if you blow smoke in my face i'm not going to look the other way either, i'm around it often.

As far as hypocritical legislature is concerned...wrap your brain around this. Alcohal is in every way, much worse than smoking pot. Not only for your health, but it is a "high" (in reality high and drunk are no different), and it is a MUCH stronger and more dangerous high than smoking pot. Make sense, no....

[Tim]

Now, what's irking me is that they've passed a law here banning smoking from all public places, even bars and pubs.

My problem with this, is that they aren't even giving the establishment the choice of putting in a smoking section or not.
The problem with this is, if the bar/pub owner tried to put a ban on smoking, they would either give in or lose customers.

I have a cousin (my age) who smokes like an old movie star and it just sickens me when I hear him cough.

He says he's going to quit when he's 18. Yeah right.
Yeah, I find it saddening when he coughs like that, too. He seems to pop outside for a smoke about twice and hour.


I don't have a problem with smokers, but if they blow smoke in my face I'm not going to put up with it. Chain smoking I disagree with, but I'm not going to force anyone to stop smoking, you know?

[tern]

Smoking in public places shouldn't be allowed - I welcome that law. Infact that law has been passed in many countries around here aswell.


Sounds logical enough to me.

[Ron V.]

The problem with this is, if the bar/pub owner tried to put a ban on smoking, they would either give in or lose customers.

That's happening with the law anyway. At least he'd have the choice otherwise.

[Prometheus]

I don't smoke. Sometimes I passively get some fumes because my dad is a smoker.

[Bondius]

Once, when I was younger, I was curious. My dad gave me his smoke so that I could try (he knew what was gonna happen) and I chocked like hell, coughed for a full minute and swore I wouldn't touch a smoke anytime soon. I try to follow my brother (he's 23 and didn't smoke ONCE in his life). No smoking for me.

[staos]

I smoked once out of curiousity because nearly everyone in my family including relatives smokes. I didn't choke but it did make my nose hurt really bad. It was like having water run into your nose...it fucking hurts. I haven't smoke ever since but because my father and two brothers smoke, I am sometimes around second hand smoke.

Now I really dont have a problem with people smoking because that is their right to do so and I dont really mind if people want to smoke in public areas either as long as they make the consciencious effort to move away or at least direct the smoke away from others who dont want to smell it. I also agree that the law they passed in your area is pretty messed up. It SHOULD be up to the owners to decide how thing go in their own stores and if it screws up their businesses that is their own problem. Besides, I am pretty sure that there are many resturants that divide their store into smoking/nonsmoking sections and if not they dont allow smoking at all inside.

[Tim]

The problem with this is, if the bar/pub owner tried to put a ban on smoking, they would either give in or lose customers.

That's happening with the law anyway. At least he'd have the choice otherwise.
But they'd be losing even more customers, because the people who really want to smoke in bars would travel to a different pub where the owner allows smoking.

I think the total ban in public places is a little strange. Here in NZ there's a ban on smoking in pubs/bars, and you have to step outside for a smoke. With that law you can't do even that?

[Mordecai]

I smoked before, but now it's not often at all (it happens sometimes (like in never) on partys).

[Ask For More]

i've never smoked, and i'm not gonna smoke in my whole life

[Mr Bond]

^^ Hmm this kind of casual smoking worries me people say they just do it to relax and then it builds up and they start smoking more regularly one if my friends is going to this way. :? Smoking is so bad for your health I guess its fine if your on your own away from other people eg in your back garden (its your body) or something but not in bars and clubs where others health will be harmed.

[MetalicGuy]

We got that law too, and i think it's great i hate when my hair is stinking after a night on the pub... and i think it's good for the bartenders.. a better environment for those who work there...

The funny thing is that the majority of the smokers here welcomed the law as well...

[loff]

It does harm people, fett. I don't start breathing heavily for no reason :)

I know Mr. Bond, a friend of mine does that aswell.. "I'll just light this one, it's so relaxing and it won't harm my anyway as I don't smoke".

[Ron V.]

The problem with this is, if the bar/pub owner tried to put a ban on smoking, they would either give in or lose customers.

That's happening with the law anyway. At least he'd have the choice otherwise.
But they'd be losing even more customers, because the people who really want to smoke in bars would travel to a different pub where the owner allows smoking.
But then they'd get the business from the people that don't want any smoke near them, while the smoking bars would lose that business, and it'd all equal out.

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

If i smoke i die...it's easy....

that was the case for me too some years ago, when my asthma was at it's worst....now it's starting to get better, but I don't I'll ever smoke anyway

[fallenONE]

Smoking as a fad has kind of died now

not so popular anymore

[PayBays]

If i smoke i die...it's easy....

that was the case for me too some years ago, when my asthma was at it's worst....now it's starting to get better, but I don't I'll ever smoke anyway

i also have that asthma.I haven't used medicines for 5 years now.But i never start smoking...it could kill me!

[Tyza]

^Wise decision PayB. :thumbup:

[Jaycubed]

Well as you know Ron, i don't smoke and never will, but you if anyone can carry off having something on fire in his mouth, it's you 8)

But seriously, i just wanted to say that you used one of the best words there is in your primary post...Myriad.

Myriad

Wow :D

Plethora is a good one too, same meaning basically, but still, awesome

[Ron V.]

Ha, well thank you Mr. Thesaurus.

But you bring up another good point. That's part of what I love about smoking. There's FIRE, in my mouth. It's like a freakin' dragon, how fun is that?

[Moco]

Doesn't sound so fun to me...

Anyways, I thought you were quitting.

[Steve]

What about blowing rings?? i love trying to do that when im drunk!! :cheesy:

[DavidAlizée]

lol moco, i take it your really anti-smoking :mrgreen:


I don't mind it alot, like yesterday i was at work, in some little old womens house... she was smoking like a chimneypot, i could not see my own feet because of the smoke. It was very bad, and i had to tell her to pack it in, untill i left. I simply could not breathe. Normally i am ok when my parents smoke, but eeek.. i thought i was gona die when i inhaled all that smoke.

[Melodramatic]

What's more dangerous, though? Smoking tabaco or your regular smokes?

[DavidAlizée]

regular smokes i have always been told.

[Mr Bond]

Hmm wouldn't it be smoking baccy because there isn't always a filter? Of corse you can make a roach out of paper or something but I'm not sure that is as effective. I guess though that baccy would be purer than ordinary smokes so hmm hard to say. I know these terms because unfortunately my friend smokes. :roll:

[Ron V.]

I heard regular tobacco is more harmful, but I think you do it less since it doesn't have as many addictive added chemicals.

And I'm toning it down, Mo, not quitting altogether. I quit drinking. For the most part.

[PayBays]

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Kikkoman says:

Smoking is bad for you!

and i agree :roll:

[Ron V.]

Kikkoman seems to really be enjoying it...

[PayBays]

Kikkoman seems to really be enjoying it...


ROFL

hahaha your good Mayhem!No.... :lol:

[Zoomer]

I used to smoke, very heavily - between 20-40 a day easily... depending upon how much we drank of course ;) (which was far far too much)... used to love smoking, blowing smoke rings, "chinese" waterfalls etc. I barely drink anymore as well - mainly because once I start drinking, I cannot stop until I am plastered (and also as when drunk, i started smoking again...). Now though, I manage to restrain myself after a few drinks no problem - and don't smoke at all.

Rolling tobacco has less chemicals (supposedly) than manufactured cigarettes, and you can get filters to put in rolled ciggies without any problem at all - to reduce the amount of tar you get.

I don't regret the smoking part, just the financial part. In the 7 years or so that I smoked (not smoked for 2 years now - went cold turkey, best thing I ever did) - I must have got through over £9000 total. To have that money would be very beneficial... and in your lifetime you'll spend about £40k on fags... with nothing to show for it (apart from buggered lungs).

Glad I no longer smoke, just wish I had never started...

[Ron V.]

Yeah, the financial part does suck, I'll give you that much.

[Mordecai]

Rolling tobacco has less chemicals (supposedly) than manufactured cigarettes, and you can get filters to put in rolled ciggies without any problem at all - to reduce the amount of tar you get.



Smoke with filter is low, very low. And Lame.

[Ron V.]

I've tried it without a filter, and while it is a bigger hit, it burns a bit too much, plus sometimes you get tobacco in your mouth, and it's not as sturdy as a regular smoke. I really like the convenience of just pulling one out of the pack and lighting up.

[Zoomer]

I've tried it without a filter, and while it is a bigger hit, it burns a bit too much, plus sometimes you get tobacco in your mouth, and it's not as sturdy as a regular smoke. I really like the convenience of just pulling one out of the pack and lighting up.

I could roll a perfect ciggie in about 10 seconds or so... and the baccie had flavour to it (although some were a bit nasty tasting). The part I disliked was that the paper was usually soaked in tar by the time you finished - and running your tongue over your lips - you could taste tar residue around there. It stained your teeth, your tongue - and your fingers alot quicker. The filter allows the tar to condense in it, literally "soaking" it up nicely - so that you don't get that part.

Admittedly, smoking without filter tasted creamy with a very thick smoke. That was all the vapourised tar though - condensing around your mouth etc. Kills taste buds like nothing else.


Smoke with filter is low, very low. And Lame
Fraid I am not sure what you mean... if you think putting a filter in rollies is lame - then its a personal choice.
I don't live my life by what other people think of me, or to what they think is good/looks good/is fashionable. People whom do that are weak personality wise as well as mentally - always looking towards others for approval.

[Tristana]

I do smoke, because I like it. I don't smoke a lot, maybe 20 cigarettes a week... I smoke when I want to, not when I need to. I don't want to be dependant, I couldn't bare that.
As for public places, I think it should be allowed - and restaurants or pubs may choose if yes or not they want smokers in their places. Everybody should have the choice to go in a place where he/she can smoke or where nobody smokes.

[Ned]

I never smoked, I don't smoke and I will never do it in my life. It's a very bad and dangerous habbit, for your health but also your image (ugly teeth, bad breath) and I don't recommend it to anyone. I hate smoking.

[Greenie]

I DON'T SMOKE!!!!!!! NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER !!!! IT'S HORRIBLE BLAHHHHHH :?

[PayBays]

^Hmmm...i wonder how eLmo thinks about smoking

[D13U]

I think eLmo doesn't really care either way, really. :lol:

I definitely wouldn't touch a cigarette, 2 of my relatives were killed by lung cancer.. so the decision is pretty easy for me..

[DavidAlizée]

I would like to ask the smokers..

Why do you smoke, if you can stop easily.. and why do you disregard the dangers of smoking aka lung cancer ?

It is afterall a filthy and disgusting habbit. ( i say this with all due respect )

[Mordecai]

I have stopped. More or less...


Like Clint Eastwood says: "There's nothing better then a good cigarr after the meal"

[Ron V.]

I would like to ask the smokers..

Why do you smoke, if you can stop easily.. and why do you disregard the dangers of smoking aka lung cancer ?

It is afterall a filthy and disgusting habbit. ( i say this with all due respect )

Well, it gives me a certain amount of mental relaxation, kind of puts me at ease, especially if I'm in an awkward social situation. I'm doing my best to cancel out the health affects a bit by sticking to a pretty strict exercise regimen. Plus, everything gives you cancer these days.

On another note, I've just been offered 500 dollars if I can quit smoking for five months. Gonna give it a try.

[D13U]

That's good. Now not only do you not destroy your lungs along with your life, but you get $500.

[loveherfromusa]

Smoking (tobacco) is stupid. I say "stupid" because we all know how damaging it is. I told someone that I thought it was worse than heroin. They said that no one would kill or rob for smokes like they do for heroin. My comment was, "Just make it (smoking) illegal and watch what happens."

[McLaren2004]

I smoke for 5 years, but nowadays I don't do it, already I stopped damaging to me

[Ron V.]

Smoking (tobacco) is stupid. I say "stupid" because we all know how damaging it is. I told someone that I thought it was worse than heroin. They said that no one would kill or rob for smokes like they do for heroin. My comment was, "Just make it (smoking) illegal and watch what happens."

Seriously now, they aren't that addictive.

[Ned]

Seriously now, they aren't that addictive.
Don't be so sure. I've seen people in my country doing that, but they have a lack of education, and they always end up in correction facilities.

[PayBays]

I hate smoking...my sis is smoking,my dad,my brother and my mom has smoked 5 cigarettes in her whole life

[DavidAlizée]

Smoking (tobacco) is stupid. I say "stupid" because we all know how damaging it is. I told someone that I thought it was worse than heroin. They said that no one would kill or rob for smokes like they do for heroin. My comment was, "Just make it (smoking) illegal and watch what happens."

Please don't be stupid. There is no way smoking can even compare to heroin.

[SeeMeRot]

eh......it's not that far fetched........I mean tobacco companies are the biggest drug dealers in the world......they've got billions addicted.......

[PayBays]

eh......it's not that far fetched........I mean tobacco companies are the biggest drug dealers in the world......they've got billions addicted.......

If people would stop smoking.The world economy would crash

You can think about a house on wooden bars

-Liquir
-Smoke
-Food
-Clothes
-Jewelry

these are the kinda things we humans need.Jewelry isn't so important,but for girls...well you know

Let's say Smoking falls away...One wooden bar would disappear and the house ( enonomic and Wall Street ) would be on the edge of doom.

If we make Smoking illegal,this will happen.If we would make Liquir illegal to,another wooden bar would disappear.That means the house will fall,and economic will reach dept we never seen before

[Ned]

eh......it's not that far fetched........I mean tobacco companies are the biggest drug dealers in the world......they've got billions addicted.......

If people would stop smoking.The world economy would crash

You can think about a house on wooden bars

-Liquir
-Smoke
-Food
-Clothes
-Jewelry

these are the kinda things we humans need.Jewelry isn't so important,but for girls...well you know

Let's say Smoking falls away...One wooden bar would disappear and the house ( enonomic and Wall Street ) would be on the edge of doom.

If we make Smoking illegal,this will happen.If we would make Liquir illegal to,another wooden bar would disappear.That means the house will fall,and economic will reach dept we never seen before
Yes but we would earn money from something else but tobacco.

[Greenie]

D13U, excuse me? What do u mean by " DOESN'T CARE"? :o I don't smoke n I don't like when sb smokes bein' near me u know... :S

[Tyza]

eh......it's not that far fetched........I mean tobacco companies are the biggest drug dealers in the world......they've got billions addicted.......

If people would stop smoking.The world economy would crash

You can think about a house on wooden bars

-Liquir
-Smoke
-Food
-Clothes
-Jewelry

these are the kinda things we humans need.Jewelry isn't so important,but for girls...well you know

Let's say Smoking falls away...One wooden bar would disappear and the house ( enonomic and Wall Street ) would be on the edge of doom.

If we make Smoking illegal,this will happen.If we would make Liquir illegal to,another wooden bar would disappear.That means the house will fall,and economic will reach dept we never seen before
Yes but we would earn money from something else but tobacco.

Ned is right. It's all about taxes.

"They" will make money on another way. :roll:

[D13U]

D13U, excuse me? What do u mean by " DOESN'T CARE"? :o I don't smoke n I don't like when sb smokes bein' near me u know... :S
Don't worry, eLmo, I still love you.

[350km/h_no_problem]

somethimes....i feel the need to smoke(don`t know why) and i don`t stop till i get cigarets..........word
one day my friends invited me to a mary-jane if u know what i mean........5min ago i was flying....that`s how it felt........... :P

[Ned]

somethimes....i feel the need to smoke(don`t know why) and i don`t stop till i get cigarets..........word
one day my friends invited me to a mary-jane if u know what i mean........5min ago i was flying....that`s how it felt........... :P
You better get back with feet on the ground, after a shoot of that! These things can kill you if you abuse them. :wink: :thumbdown:

[350km/h_no_problem]

only if u abuse them
me....i just tried a joint......no more

[Tristana]

Smoking (tobacco) is stupid. I say "stupid" because we all know how damaging it is. I told someone that I thought it was worse than heroin. They said that no one would kill or rob for smokes like they do for heroin. My comment was, "Just make it (smoking) illegal and watch what happens."

I had a friend who was an heroin addict. And no, it has nothing to do with smoking.
I can't believe you compared tobacco to heroin... You should see how is a person when this person has had a fix. When he/she is fucking high. And when, some hours later, his only idea is to do it again. Because he's so bad, because all his body hurts... and when your best friend wants to steal your money, strikes you just because he NEEDS this fucking heroin, you understand this has NOTHING to do with smoking tobacco or even with smoking everything you want.
So please, say to smokers they're stupid if you want to - but don't ever compare heroin to another drug, because it's the worst thing I know on earth.

[Ayan]

How about a-bombs? I heard those can be even worse.

[Le Fidèle]

well, i put barely under certain cercumstanses, cause sometimes when life is down, you just gotta light it up!!!! :xd: Damn, anyone from amsterdam? is it true that you can smoke pot there legally? and if so, what age? im goin to amsterdam next year, so im getting ready........

[350km/h_no_problem]

don`t forget to take the weed with ya....... :wink:

[Ron V.]

well, i put barely under certain cercumstanses, cause sometimes when life is down, you just gotta light it up!!!! :xd: Damn, anyone from amsterdam? is it true that you can smoke pot there legally? and if so, what age? im goin to amsterdam next year, so im getting ready........
Yeah, it's true. Don't know about the age though. I remember some coffee shops checked ID for 18, others I don't know.

[DavidAlizée]

My uncle smokes pot. I hate it when i give him a lift home, i have to drop the hood in my car, cos he smokes like a damn chimneypot. Last thing i want is my car stinking of smoke, im to polite to tell him to not smoke.

[PayBays]

I hate smoking...but i like the way it smells....

i also like the way auto-gasses smell...............

Could be weird,but i love the smell!

[350km/h_no_problem]

i also like the way auto-gasses smell...............

u know.....i like the smell of gas too.....don`t know why :roll:

[DavidAlizée]

I like it too, but in my old 944 it used to give me such a headache. Now, my new one..i don't smell it as i am driving along, but i do smell it when i drive off.

[Le Fidèle]

WOW, i geus everyone likes the smell of gass, including me!!!! but too mutch gives me a headache.
hehe. Hashed brownies is a funny word.......Hashed..............browny......... :lol:

[Zoomer]

David, its your car - tell him not to smoke! He should respect your wishes, after all - you are doing a favour for him. Why you should suffer (and your car), just so he can light up a few mins quicker than if he didn't have one... he isn't going to die if he waits is he? And who knows if any ash/"hot rocks" will fly out and burn the car (we nearly set my mates car on fire by accident once, simply due to a gust of wind blowing the cherry into the back - whilst we assumed it left the car :shock: ). Overall, it aint worth it letting him smoke in the car - so tell him to stop!

[FiEsTa]

For all who smoke, stop smoking ...
my grandpa just died of it.

[350km/h_no_problem]

to be honest with u i don`t give a shit about smoking........i don`t want to reach oldness........i think 40 years are just enough

[DavidAlizée]

wait untill you get to 40 years old, i am sure you will change your mind. Funny, at 16 i said the same thing.

Fiesta sorry to here that.

[PayBays]

wait untill you get to 40 years old, i am sure you will change your mind. Funny, at 16 i said the same thing.

Fiesta sorry to here that.


Hmmmm

That remembers me of some kinda Guitar Dude from Beatles/Rolling Stones or an other band.His name slipps me now,but you'll understand what i said.

He was 24...he said he had saw enough in his life.He jumped into his pool,with his Electric Guitar

[350km/h_no_problem]

u know.....i don`t mind being ran over by a ferrari and dieng that way

[PayBays]

u know.....i don`t mind being ran over by a ferrari and dieng that way

Well you better have a phone call with Patrick Kluivert

he likes doing that

[DavidAlizée]

u know.....i don`t mind being ran over by a ferrari and dieng that way

Yeah if it is a 360 modena.. Not an old 355... So many people have those around here, there are alot of 360's too.. lovely cars. That is my future car that i would like in the near future.

[350km/h_no_problem]

360 is nice if u got the money but have u seen the CHALENGE STRADALE.........it`s like a tuned version of the MODENA...........nice cars..........but my favourite car of all times is the ENZO :cheesy: i heared they are going to release a tuned version af the ENZO too with 850hp engine......can`t wait to see it :roll:

[Greenie]

D13U, yEaH I know! I love ya too, bro :)

[Ned]

360 is nice if u got the money but have u seen the CHALENGE STRADALE.........it`s like a tuned version of the MODENA...........nice cars..........but my favourite car of all times is the ENZO :cheesy: i heared they are going to release a tuned version af the ENZO too with 850hp engine......can`t wait to see it :roll:
Tunning Enzo? This is insane! :yikes: Why would they wanna tune a car like that? :what:
Next thing you know, they will have tunned McLaren F1 too. :?

[Mordecai]

Time to end this disc. Bugatti Veyron.

[loveherfromusa]

Smoking is worse than heroin. It kills many more people. People who try to quit smoking go through agonizing weeks. As soon as a tense situation happens, many revert to smoking. Smokers can kill those they live with through second-hand smoke. Heroin users can't kill others just by being around them.

Smoking is shown in many movies and ads as being desirable and beneficial. Heroin is never shown as being desirable or beneficial.

If smoking were to be made illegal, I am sure many smokers would turn to illegal activities to obtain cigarettes.

[Le Fidèle]

I SMOKE!!!! but not cigarettes. marijuana. yeah, i know its bad, but its not like im addicted. me and my freinds make a ritual that if we havent smoked for 2 weeks, then we get together every 3 weeks and smoke. we have, movies, snacks, SNACKS, and more SNACKS, and video games, vand ideo camera.

i figure, me playing soccer, and me smoking every 3 weeks, will balance me out to be even. :cheesy:


i do it cause thats what all the cool kids are doing :cheesy: jk




i do it cause it makes me feel good, whats wrong with feeling good?

[350km/h_no_problem]

i smoked a joint too....after 5 mins i was flying

[Ned]

i smoked a joint too....after 5 mins i was flying
Like a Nissan Skyline full tuned, with ten packs of NOS? That ain't right! :lol:

[Bondius]

I'm proud of myself ... I haven't smoked up 'till now hehe ... (well, once, to see how it is and I choked like hell ...)

[Le Fidèle]

I'm proud of myself ... I haven't smoked up 'till now hehe ... (well, once, to see how it is and I choked like hell ...)

what did you smoke?

[Bondius]

no ideea, it was 5 years ago lol :lol:

[Le Fidèle]

wtf, 10 years old? lol. yes, then im proud of you too. :cheesy: what do you smoke now?

[Bondius]

nothing ... I haven't smoked all my life apart from that 1 time

[Le Fidèle]

o, good job. i geuss. any one in here smoke a pack a day?

[Ramon_Morales_Jr]

smokers are for jokers

[Mordecai]

Steve Miller Band - The Joker

"I'm a smoker, I'm a joker"

[Bizz]

SMoke what ????


Legal smoke ?

or not realy legal smoke

[SjanTeN]

No, not a chance. :)

[Le Fidèle]

fact # 343454
smokers can hold thier breaths longer in water than people who dont.

[SeeMeRot]

no way......I find that hard to believe........since most the smokers I know are too busy yacking up blood/crud from their lungs.....

[eric]

This summer when i was on my last vacation with my classmates in denmark,
i started to smoke a little, and then more and more (i could buy them myself)
i brought some package home, and smoked while i was walking my dog,
seriosly i was kinda hooked, i even did those tobacco things u stuff ur upper lip with...

When i saw alizees music videos gourmandises i just saw her pearl white teeth,
havent smoked since, not used the lip thing either.

Bought myself a electric toothbrush, dental floss and some Colgate whitening :wink:

and there almost pearl white ;)
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Btw the smokesmells from all the pubs and resturants are gone!
But now the old sweat smell from old men has arrived! (according to my sister)
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oh i almost forgot

im a Giga Mega Alizée Lover... guess something technical problems : P
Digg that girl 2 tha max!

[splur]

i have never smoked "cigarettes" in my life. :P

and rofl eric, nice going! Alizée has had a GOOD influence once again.

[eric]

yeah i guess so...

my neigbour has cancer, talked to him some days ago, and i didnt recognize him!
he lost alot of weigt and not to menchion hair :shock: (u loose ur hair under the treatment, not of the cancer)

so he talked to me,(like he knew me lol), but then i finnaly saw who he was him...
Hes still fighting it. dont know if he smoked

"evry 3rd norwegian dies of cancer!"

the trick is to eat alot of cabbage, redusing the chance of cancer...
(just think its a really really bad way to go...)

[MetalicGuy]

Yeah.. from what i've heard the treatment often makes you feel more sick than the disease itself...

[Pawel]

I don't like smoking, nevertheless I hate a government banning smoking in pubs and ordering people to fasten belts in cars. Still, it always can be worse I guess. I heard that in middle ages attempts of suicide were punished by death :)

[Le Fidèle]

yes thats true!!!! my teacher told me that. it was in england. he said, if you wanted to killyourself, then the enlish would help you out. :cheesy:

[eric]

lol

well atleast your "operation: suicide" will never be a mission failed

[Bizz]

I smoke Cigar And Indien cigarette (weed)

I smoke cigarrette One time because is a gife

Is free.....I taked
I TRy
I hate the taste of cegarrette

I smoked all

i don't like wasting

[Le Fidèle]

hehe, especially cant waste mother earths gift (weed)

[eric]

Ever heard of Miruana cake?

the cake makes you high...

[SeeMeRot]

bud brownies are the devil...... :?....

[Bizz]

Ever heard of Miruana cake?

the cake makes you high...


I not test date

because I not know how to make cake

[jsk]

7 years of smoking...
because I not know how to make cake
Space cake recipe (http://www.marijuana.com/420/archive/index.php/t-598.html)

[Le Fidèle]

lol

hashed brownies. :cheesy: my favorite? how mutch is a ten sack (dime) in germany? or how mutch would an ounce be?

[Orion]

I just smoked a Romeo y Julieta in the dead of night, peacefully on my veranda.
I have just found a place that sells the Gurkha grand reserve and the Artuo Fuente Opus X :)

Cigars are great for relaxing, while you enjoy the great taste of that hand rolled art. Cigarettes, though, give off a foul scent, imo . . . @ least when compared to a good cigar. One draw back to smoking good cigars (for those living outside the U.S.): The price for a gurkha in florida is $11-18. In Toronto its $50+ . . . the bastards :twisted:

That's the bad news . . . the good news is that I saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to gieko!!

[Orion]

I forgot to mention: In order to get a true affect from second hand smoke, you have to be locked in a small room with many smokers for the theory to hold water. Otherwise public smoking will have no ill effects on anyone's health, unless the smoke just bothers you or you are allergic to it. For me I only smoke a cigar when I am home at night relaxing outside.

[eric]

Recipe 8 pors :
Flower 1kg
eggs 4
0.5 L milk
Baking soda 2 Ts
Choco 5 ts
Miruana 500 mg

mix it all in a bole, and put in in the oven...

Bón Appetite

[eric]

4 other recipes call me on: 911...

[Bizz]

Recipe 8 pors :
Flower 1kg
eggs 4
0.5 L milk
Baking soda 2 Ts
Choco 5 ts
Miruana 500 mg

mix it all in a bole, and put in in the oven...

Bón Appetite

oh thx

and for what the ó in bon?

J ai toujours lue Bon appetite

[TheDaemon]

I pretty much never smoke but...if I'm hanging out at a party and I end up standing outside with my friends I will smoke one or two just because I'm sorta a fidgety person anyways.

[Le Fidèle]

YES Peer presure!!!dont you just love it?

[SeeMeRot]

eh........I don't think it's soo much peer pressure as it's more alcohol induced.......I always feel the need for a smoke when I'm drunk....

[splur]

Brownies are a waste of what ever you're using. I always found that you required more pot to make the brownies have the same affect as one joint would.

Wow, I had trouble making that sentence make sense.

[SeeMeRot]

......I had 1 and a half bud brownies........and I was stoned all day long.....never again... :? ..........I'm not a hardcore bud smoker though....once every couple of months I'd say.......so I guess it varies that way (and if u got the good stuff)....

[Bizz]

http://media3.dumpalink.com/media/hcxkk8fw0arb/df8b4LX186sG.wmv

better than cake

[SeeMeRot]

"I'll drink a beer to that" .........heh heh....

[Bizz]

where is the best marijuana in Amerique?

[SeeMeRot]

I don't know..........it varies from state to state.........though in Cali, or anywhere for that matter hydroponic is the way to go.....

[Bizz]

how many you pay for one peace

[SeeMeRot]

a dimebag would go for 10 bucks......back in the day at least......I don't smoke anymore so I'm not sure about now.....but I'm sure prices have went up a bit.....maybe about 15 bucks for a dime now...

[eric]

BIzz, i saw the movie,
when it was in the bag it seriosly looked like crap...
and then in the middle of the movie, when evry1 just touched the hash.

looks like theyve done it before :shock:

[Bizz]

a dimebag would go for 10 bucks......back in the day at least......I don't smoke anymore so I'm not sure about now.....but I'm sure prices have went up a bit.....maybe about 15 bucks for a dime now...

15 oh my god


in quebec is 5$ or 3 $ CANADIAN

is 2$ or 1$ US

[Le Fidèle]

haha, found a dime on the ground the other day, near this crack house. smoked it and felt good.

[eric]

:shock: you smoke things that you find on the ground?

and how much is a dime?

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[Le Fidèle]

i dime is about the size of the tip of your thumb, maybe a little bit bigger, but around that size. and a dime or ten sack, is still $10usd.

[Bizz]

the bigger production in est america is in quebec

[Le Fidèle]

wait, let me rephrase that, a dime is as big as the TIP of your thumb, probably a little bit bigger, but its around there.

[eric]

So do you mix it with other tobacco, or is it just iknuff to one ciggy?

[Bizz]

NO tabacco !

This make a bad testy


the best is 100 % marijuana

or 100% mari and 10% pot oil

110 % of pure fun

now a not smoke anyting

is finish

[Le Fidèle]

:cheesy:
today, in biology class, our teacher, said that smoking lowers your sperm count. let me make the clearer, smoking MARIJUANA, lowers your sperm count. i was the only one laughing. for some reason, i had a hard time believing it. actually, i still dont. anyone have any proof?

[Bizz]

AHAhAHAH marijuana lowers sperm count

I need proof

one make low the sperm count is chimical Drog

like speed extasy and mess

[Le Fidèle]

i heard that Moutian dew and Monster, Rockstar and other energy drinks lower your sperm count, but never marijuana, HAHAHAHA.

[eric]

In norway, outside of all cig packages theres a sign with a sentance

Smoking kills! smoking is bad for your health and others! and stuff like that (in norwegian ofc)

when i bought one in denmark there was a sign that said Smoking reduses your sperm quality! in dansih "Røyking nedsetter din sædkavalited!"

so i guess its true. and it would make sence to me...

[crazy]

i heard that too somewhere. i even seen a commercial once where a guys cigaretter went "limp" but i dont need to worry, i never smoked at all.

[Le Fidèle]

so i guess its true. and it would make sence to me...


why would that effect your balls.

[Bizz]

Have alizee soung talk aboute EXtasie

the soung have 007 beat

she always say

"cest de la dinamite Cest Exxtassiee"