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loff
11th July 2005, 04:05
we all know that this is a useful ability which we'd like to be everlasting. for some people it isn't, what could the reasons be, except being exposed to loud noises a lot? i've heard somewhere that the brain is the reason, because it gets too much noise, thus it can't relax properly. so.. assuming you listen to music all day long, and put a cd on repeat when going to sleep, could that make this happen earlier than it should, or make it happen instead of not happen even if it's not played loud? is this one of the reasons why some people when they sleep never wake up, even if you're shooting with a gun (non-silenced ofc) in the same room or something similar which you'd expect someone to wake up of? it's 04.00, so it's prolly a dumb question with an obvious answer.. but i'd still like to know and please try and understand what i wrote :p night friendlings !

mot
11th July 2005, 04:27
I think the only reason why people are unable to hear is if the inner-ear is damaged or messed up. I'm deaf myself in my left ear actually, due to too much "stuff" behind my inner-ear.
I don't think it has anything to do with the brain!

Ayan
11th July 2005, 04:30
I know that it's dangerous not to sleep in silence. Also it may cause headaches when constantly be in a place where you can hear any sound whatsoever. It doesn't apply to the music you are listening to daytime, of course. Especially when it's not too loud.

Don't take my word for a fact or anything though. I'm not a doctor, just a son of two.

Mordecai
11th July 2005, 04:39
I have been sleeping with the radio on in 5years or something, but then I'm half deaf to :)


but thats probably due to loud music...

D13U
11th July 2005, 04:58
THat doesn't sound good... I sleep with music playing all the time... and I'm pretty much listening to it all day as well. Looks like my brain is gonna be fried before I hit 20 =/

Bondius
11th July 2005, 08:28
Well all my family said that I have a hearing problem. I listen to music all day, I sleep with winamp on, etc. Now sometimes my mother has to shout in the same room to get my attention :what: real nasty.

loveherfromusa
11th July 2005, 08:36
Deafness can be caused by problems with the mechanisms in the ear or by problems with the neural connections to the brain. It can also be caused by not wanting to hear your parents or anyone else telling you what to do.

I can tell you from experience that I haven't listened to enough loud music because I can still hear middle school students.

As for sleeping - teaching middle school students will improve your ability to sleep due to exhaustion.

DavidAlizée
11th July 2005, 11:52
When you sleep, every part of the body is relaxed. Maybe the ears ebcome the most relaxed, therefor are more vunerable to being abused by music or loud noises. In the ear are billions of tiny hairs, and loud noises can no doubt kill them, or some of them. Its called "burning" them.. Not a good idea to listen to loud music when trying to sleep.

Mr Bond
11th July 2005, 16:14
Hmm its not your brain that might be damaged by exposure to moderately loud music like mot said hearing loss would occur because of damage to the inner ear. The effect is progressive the longer and more frequent the exposure the more damage will be caused. http://my.webmd.com/hw/health_guide_atoz/tf3714.asp?navbar=tf3056 . Sounds over 85 decibels are considered harmful depending on exposure (how long and how often). http://my.webmd.com/hw/health_guide_atoz/tf4173.asp?navbar=tf3056

DavidAlizée
11th July 2005, 16:22
like mot said hearing loss would occur

mot? :P

Mr Bond
11th July 2005, 16:27
Yes I meant mot. I read your post too David and thats correct didn't know it was known as burning though. :D Mott said I think the only reason why people are unable to hear is if the inner-ear is damaged or messed up. I'm deaf myself in my left ear actually, due to too much "stuff" behind my inner-ear.
I don't think it has anything to do with the brain! :D

Ok mot and David because you were both correct. :P

DavidAlizée
11th July 2005, 16:29
omg, sorry. I have had 1 glass of lager, i didnt relise mot changed his sig, i didnt see him lol... :oops:

Mr Bond
11th July 2005, 16:31
Thats ok mate I'll put that down to the heat then. You just had one? :wink:

DavidAlizée
11th July 2005, 16:35
lol, yes. But, you know this hot weather and lager doesnt go well at all, it goes right to my head lol. man im spinning around in circles now ( in my head ofc ) =)

PayBays
11th July 2005, 16:40
Well i have a problem,that when people are standing far away i can hear them very good.But if they are close to me i'm deaf...

mot
11th July 2005, 19:44
Who else would have a perfect sig like this, dave? =|

Anyway, I think the bottomline is "too loud = damage". Your vocal chords don't get damaged by talking normally, so guess it's about the same thing.

PayBays
11th July 2005, 20:04
Some people,like me,have extreemly sensitive hearing.They could hear a leaf fall or something.Because of that hard music on my ears,i became almost deaf at one ear

Bondius
11th July 2005, 21:51
I made myself a lab-rat today and made a few tests.

When I listen to loud music for some time and then turning it off (almost total silence), my hearing awareness fails misserably. I can barely hear my mom unlock the door and my brain felt like it would explode.
But, if I stay in almost total silence for some time, my awareness rises above normal ... I could even hear that my next door neibourgh was washing dishes.

So intensive loud music can lead to bad situations. Don't try this at home :what: ...

loff
12th July 2005, 03:54
right, looks like there's some nice info here =) i'll read tomorrow, thank you :)

D13U
12th July 2005, 04:19
A sound may be harmful if:

* You have difficulty talking or hearing others talk over the sound.

I can never hear anyone when I have my iPod on... I am so screwed.

And that was quite a dumb idea, Bondius. Produced good results.. but definitely not the best thing to do with your time.

Bondius
12th July 2005, 08:02
I know but I usually like to test these things so I can draw a straight conclusion.

tern
12th July 2005, 09:47
Hey loff why don't you ask about the long-term adverse effects of a stubbed toe? :wink:

loff
12th July 2005, 17:54
why don't you blow me? ;) i'm unbreakable, unbreakable i tell you ! :D

tern
13th July 2005, 04:21
why don't you blow me? ;) i'm unbreakable, unbreakable i tell you ! :D

Heh, I've been so rude to you lately. :wink: Good luck with all your pains. :mrgreen:

Ayan
13th July 2005, 19:22
Well i have a problem,that when people are standing far away i can hear them very good.But if they are close to me i'm deaf...That's odd. I have the same problem. But for me it's the other way around. Usually.

PayBays
13th July 2005, 19:25
Well i have a problem,that when people are standing far away i can hear them very good.But if they are close to me i'm deaf...That's odd. I have the same problem. But for me it's the other way around. Usually.

I have extreemly sensitive ears.When i ly in my bed,i can hear the ( you know those little flying bastards who suck blood out of you ) on the wall,while they aren't flying.If i concentrate enough i can hear where they are

Zoomer
13th July 2005, 22:22
I have excellent hearing - and I do not purposefully listen to loud music at all. I have an extremely good hearing range (frequency) - and can also hear low decibel ranges for humans as well (not abnormally low, just lower than 80% of the population at least).

However, I could easily damage it just like everyone else. There really is no need to listen to music at max volume, if anything - the sound gets distorted slightly - ruining the clarity of the music for you.

As for sometimes not hearing stuff - concentrate upon something with the radio on in the background... not lightly concentrate - but properly concentrate. After a while, you will realise you cannot recall what they are saying. You hear a noise, and may pick out words if you listen (concentrate) on the sound, but if you are soley concentrating upon something else, you will not pick it out. You only pick out your mother calling you because its different to the surroundings. Its kind of like seeing at the edges of your vision. Look straight ahead and you will only make out a vague shape of your "peripheral" vision - but not what it is (you cannot tell what it is at all) - however, if something moves, you WILL notice it, catching your attention and looking towards it.

We are only geared towards hearing/seeing things that may potential harm us etc, without having to concentrate 100% upon watching all the time. Its all a kind of "peripheral" vision/hearing.

Why some can sleep through a loud bang? No idea, probabily because the transmission of data isn't interpreted by the brain correctly? After all, you don't stop hearing (and your ears don't stop working) when your asleep - your brain just doesn't process the information as you normally would...


p.s - This isn't based upon anything other than "informed" logic/deduction - certainly not qualifications etc. Subject to change dependant upon whom knows more/can bullshit better... erm, I didn't say that :lol:

SjanTeN
13th July 2005, 23:01
Well i have a problem,that when people are standing far away i can hear them very good.But if they are close to me i'm deaf...That's odd. I have the same problem. But for me it's the other way around. Usually.

I have extreemly sensitive ears.When i ly in my bed,i can hear the ( you know those little flying bastards who suck blood out of you ) on the wall,while they aren't flying.If i concentrate enough i can hear where they are
Mosquitos, thats really impressive. I can only hear em if they get close to my ears. However if i do hear em, then it's no problem catching them with my hands. Even at night time. I dont know why i can do that. Besides i pretty much all the time know what the clock is, without having a watch on me. o.O

Mordecai
14th July 2005, 01:21
I'm strange. I can't stand the fans on my comp (Papst, you have to look for a fan that makes less noice), but almost can't hear persons on distance.
I have that "disease". Hmm, can't remember what it's called. When there's a tone in the ear 24/7 and half deaf... poor me :)

loff
14th July 2005, 04:25
fan-control is something for you then, mordecai =)