Racism in France

[Melodramatic]

I heard France rarely features african or asian models on their mags & their materials. Is there any truth to this at all? For example, in the Alizee video Gourmandises, there isn't a black or an asian girl present at the banquet. Or that scene in the bathroom in Moi... Lolita where it implied that the black woman was jealous of Alizee. Can anyone input France's views on this.

[Snatcher42]

Dunno, but I know Anggun (http://www.anggun.com/) and rappers like MC Solaar (http://www.solaarsystem.net/) and Passi (http://www.passiweb.com/) are popular artists. Check out Calogero & Passi - Face a la mer. Cool song. Mylène has also done duets with Seal and Khaled (an Algerian singer).

http://membres.lycos.fr/superhighway/hpbimg/plesmotssingle250.jpg

I have heard of anti-Semitism and skinheads in France though. The cemetery I visited there in January had a damaged Jewish grave or two. But there are a lot of Jewish celebrities too, so I think whatever racism they have there is the minority.

[Emmerdale001]

There are skinheads in the US and most European countries. It's a legacy of Nazi Germany that never really died.

In every population, you will find bigots who judge people because of the color of their skin, their national origin, ethnicity, or heritage. With free will, someone invariably chooses to hate another for whatever reason. That's the price of free will.

What I'm hearing from Europe nowadays are attacks on Jews by Muslims and by skinheads, especially since the start of the war in Iraq. The war really kicked up some bad stuff.

[Snatcher42]

Yes, of course... but I meant that you specifically hear of some pretty bad grave desecrations in France these days. It's especially a problem there.
http://www.pluralism.org/news/intl/index.php?xref=Vandalism+of+French+Cemeteries&sort=DESC

[Emmerdale001]

The region where I live had a terrible problem with a lot of churches being set on fire because the people who go to them are predominantly black people. Bigotry as a problem takes on different forms in different places.

[Bondius]

Or that scene in the bathroom in Moi... Lolita where it implied that the black woman was jealous of Alizee. Can anyone input France's views on this.
You're wrong about this one. She isn't jealous about Alizee. The thing is that Alizee was new into party stuff and she was looking at the older ladies, copying them (with the make-up, rearranging the hair and such) and that ammused them. :wink:

[Ludicrous Maximus]

Well, racism is present in France like in every other countries. The last trend is more about religion than 'race' (the term is probably not correct but you get the point), over 62 milions, there are 6 milions of muslims and 600.000 Jews. It cause clash between the communauties sometimes, recently there was a "war" between gypsies and arabs in Perpignan (a succession of murders).

I don't think though it's much different elsewhere, it's just on the spot for many reasons.

[gaston_alizee]

Well, racism is present in France like in every other countries. The last trend is more about religion than 'race' (the term is probably not correct but you get the point), over 62 milions, there are 6 milions of muslims and 600.000 Jews. It cause clash between the communauties sometimes, recently there was a "war" between gypsies and arabs in Perpignan (a succession of murders).

I don't think though it's much different elsewhere, it's just on the spot for many reasons.
100% agreed, but since we talk about France, my father was in training in a hospital in Reins some years ago, and noticed that, the night, ONLY black and arab ones worked (nurses, doctors...), while during the day, the most were white and french. Plus, I don't know in the other countries, but now in France, someone from north Africa can't be paid as a french one, even if they do EXACTLY the same work.

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Or that scene in the bathroom in Moi... Lolita where it implied that the black woman was jealous of Alizee. Can anyone input France's views on this.
You're wrong about this one. She isn't jealous about Alizee. The thing is that Alizee was new into party stuff and she was looking at the older ladies, copying them (with the make-up, rearranging the hair and such) and that ammused them. :wink:
No no Bondius, Melodramatic's right, she was jealous.

[DavidAlizée]

Or that scene in the bathroom in Moi... Lolita where it implied that the black woman was jealous of Alizee. Can anyone input France's views on this.
You're wrong about this one. She isn't jealous about Alizee. The thing is that Alizee was new into party stuff and she was looking at the older ladies, copying them (with the make-up, rearranging the hair and such) and that ammused them. :wink:

No, the black girl and the other women were both clearly jelous of Alizee's beauty. That is blatantly obvious, so i agree with melo.

[Bondius]

>_> whatever ... you're both wrong, belive me. I saw that part 10 times today and my opinion is the same ...

[DavidAlizée]

It doesnt matter how many times you have seen it, it is so obvious those two girls are jelous of Alizée. lol.. come on. Look at the look they give her..! bach, i can't believe you think different.

[Bondius]

Man, if they were jealous would they be smiling at Alizee? I think not. Whatever ... let's drop it >_> every man has the right to think different.

[DavidAlizée]

lol, ok. Believe whatever you like =)

[Bondius]

I do admit I seen many signs of racism in France but Alizee's video isn't one of them
:wink:

(post reply about me beeing wrong HERE) :cheesy:

[Ludicrous Maximus]

Plus, I don't know in the other countries, but now in France, someone from north Africa can't be paid as a french one, even if they do EXACTLY the same work.


Not really, it's illegal to pay someone less because he's not a 'native French'. The problem is more that they don't really rise in their society and don't have access to the good jobs as easily as the others do. They are also hit hard by unemployment, the biggest part being to find a job first.

[gaston_alizee]

Man, if they were jealous would they be smiling at Alizee? I think not. Whatever ... let's drop it >_> every man has the right to think different.
Noooooooooo! The black girl smiles to the other blond girl, not to Alizée! And when she sees Alizée who doesn't need all their make-up to be beautiful, her face changes. :wink:

Plus, I don't know in the other countries, but now in France, someone from north Africa can't be paid as a french one, even if they do EXACTLY the same work.

Not really, it's illegal to pay someone less because he's not a 'native French'. The problem is more that they don't really rise in their society and don't have access to the good jobs as easily as the others do. They are also hit hard by unemployment, the biggest part being to find a job first.
Well, you're french and you're supposed to be sure, but I assure you that it is legal, and perfectly normal (I seen it on M6).

[Melodramatic]

And remember the Gourmandises video. You've got a blonde, brunette, but all of them were looking caucasian. There were no asian or blacks. Also, I'm not saying Alizee is racist but perhaps this attitude of hers was greatly influenced by France's/Corsica's society. She says she hates rap music but likes Eminem (correct me if I'm wrong).

[Ludicrous Maximus]

And remember the Gourmandises video. You've got a blonde, brunette, but all of them were looking caucasian. There were no asian or blacks. Also, I'm not saying Alizee is racist but perhaps this attitude of hers was greatly influenced by France's/Corsica's society. She says she hates rap music but likes Eminem (correct me if I'm wrong).

What's wrong with hating rap? I hate it too.

Well, for her clips, I think it's seeing evil everywhere. The Arabs, Asian and Black communauties have their own musics, that's communautarism and we could argue it's a bad thing. But it doesn't necessary mean that they are excluded of the "French" pop music because this pop music doesn't want of them, it's more a question of social conditioning. I don't think people living in commiesblock listen to Alizee that much. Her audience is more middle class IMO, so we sell to people what they want to buy.

[gaston_alizee]

And remember the Gourmandises video. You've got a blonde, brunette, but all of them were looking caucasian. There were no asian or blacks. Also, I'm not saying Alizee is racist but perhaps this attitude of hers was greatly influenced by France's/Corsica's society. She says she hates rap music but likes Eminem (correct me if I'm wrong).
For Eminem : Yeah, strange, I never noticed it...
For the clip : I think it's not the "fault" of alizée, this is the fault of the team that realized the video, or the person who chose the actors...

[Ropi]

And remember the Gourmandises video. You've got a blonde, brunette, but all of them were looking caucasian.
Caucasian :?:

[DavidAlizée]

I don't think its a fault at all. It is actually racist to feel obligated to use an asian or black person. If a director wants to use all white people to make a video or movie, he should be allowed to. If i was black, or asian.. i would hate to think, i was only in a music video/movie to make the numbers up aka ( the face fits ) to have a black face in there.

[Zoomer]

I dislike the impression that you MUST include a black person else you're a racist.

Now in all honesty - if it was a perfect cross section of society - you would expect there to be a proportion of black/white/asian etc. From what i remember about the amounts of people in the vid OTHER than Alizée it would be a 1 in 8 proportion wouldn't it? Is that a true representation of black people in France to start with?

Other than that, you have to remember there is another factor you're not accounting for... if no black actors showed up - should they not film it until a black person applies? (is that then being racist to the remaining white people? :shock: lol)

Anything in life should be for whom is BEST for a role. Same with jobs, they shouldn't give a job to a black person to satisfy statistics or quotas... only if they satisfy the same standards as everyone else. Maybe no black teenagers wanted to be in a pop video for a teenage white girl - no "street cred" so to speak.. whom knows - but its unfair to make an assumption that is soley based upon the appearance of the video, and to imply racial reasoning behind it.

As for France being racist... no more than anywhere else. The UK suffers more than its fair share of grave desecrations... trust me when I say that we had one on the news about a month ago. Funny thing was that its the 5th time its been hit in that way... but the first time it was reported on the news. Relying on the news as a source to pass judgement upon a generalisation of a whole nation :shock: - thats just not right.

Interesting to see what does happen when people start to throw around "racist" slurs against people whom aren't actually being racist. The police chief of the met? or UK anyway, has just been reprimanded for basically enforcing an investigation into officers on the grounds of racism... when reports had said there was no evidence to suggest that they were racist!

If we read racism into every subject/situation that involves an ethnic minority person where they are NOT favoured - then what sort of society will we become?
As it stands, it seems we have become a nation that is actively searching out racism in any context whatsoever. We are close to coming into a quasi "1984" thought police... whether you actually were intentionally trying to be racist or not is irelevent - as long as someone thinks/interprets that you are, thats good enough (thought police and if someone suspects you of thinking about bringing down big brother, then you're bumped off... - even if they are just saying your name for shits and giggles).

[Steve]

I dislike the impression that you MUST include a black person else you're a racist.


Soon you will have to have a token white person or your racist

[DavidAlizée]

yes, and yet.. When a black guy gets pulled by a white police officer, the first thing they do is cry racist. When i white guy gets pulled by a black cop, they don't cry racist.

[PayBays]

And remember the Gourmandises video. You've got a blonde, brunette, but all of them were looking caucasian. There were no asian or blacks. Also, I'm not saying Alizee is racist but perhaps this attitude of hers was greatly influenced by France's/Corsica's society. She says she hates rap music but likes Eminem (correct me if I'm wrong).

What's wrong with hating rap? I hate it too.

Well, for her clips, I think it's seeing evil everywhere. The Arabs, Asian and Black communauties have their own musics, that's communautarism and we could argue it's a bad thing. But it doesn't necessary mean that they are excluded of the "French" pop music because this pop music doesn't want of them, it's more a question of social conditioning. I don't think people living in commiesblock listen to Alizee that much. Her audience is more middle class IMO, so we sell to people what they want to buy.

I hate rap,i hate Eminem,i hate 50 Cent,i hate the Asian Twins.I don't know whats so cool about Rap,Hip Hop and R&B!

If you're looking at every song,theres always 1 song that always has only black or only white.

[Zoomer]

Blimey you guys type fast - I ammended my post and three more were here when I had finished :lol:

[DavidAlizée]

Oh you hate Eminem? But your goddess like him. :mrgreen:

[Emmerdale001]

I respect Eminem. I like some of his music, but I listen to anything that either has a great story (like some of Eminem's songs), great harmony (like Alizee), or a great beat like dance music. The color of one's skin is not an issue with me, but unfortunately, for some people, it really is, and that is unfortunate.

As far as the police and black people go, the police have admitted to using racial profiling in the past, which is why a black person may be more likely to cry racist than a white person pulled over by a black cop. Where I used to live, the police used to give black people over to the KKK so that they can be killed.

[Melodramatic]

As for France being racist... no more than anywhere else.

That's exactly why we're sticking to France. A seemingly liberal country with this kind of attitude... it's all new to me & I want some low down on it.

Maybe no black teenagers wanted to be in a pop video for a teenage white girl - no "street cred" so to speak.. whom knows - but its unfair to make an assumption that is soley based upon the appearance of the video, and to imply racial reasoning behind it.

I didn't know the concern for "street cred" existed in France.

If we read racism into every subject/situation that involves an ethnic minority person where they are NOT favoured - then what sort of society will we become?

Nobody's reading into it. The thing is, it exudes the atmosphere of racism (I'm not specifially talking about just the alizee vids). Like for example, the French Vogue has only featured only 3 women of color to date. I don't think I'm reading something into that. However, I'm picking something from it. Yes you can dislike rap & r & B. I didn't say that that would make you a racist, but why like Eminem's material when it's of the same genre that you despise? Societal influence? 'Coz Marshall's white? :?:

[Zoomer]

But then you have to ask how many international superstars are featured on the UK version of Vogue as well. UK doesn't have as many successful or famous black women as America... not even by half. I can literally name about 3 black female singers and that is about it.
When the most famous black person in our country is the Ten O'Clock News reader (Trevor MacDonald)....

I read location as Californication - America I will presume. It would appear you are simply comparing the US culture, integration of race and more into the interpretation of other nations, and how the present themselves upon the issue of race. If you compare Kenyas paper with the UK's quota of white people... then it appears they could also be racist :lol:

Simply put, the US has an absolute plethora of successful black stars - of music and sport, tv and film. Plenty of idols and superstars for teenagers to look up to etc. The UK doesn't have even that amount remotely - and if a magazine features mainly famous people on the cover... what happens if there are no black females?

I guess Naomi Campbell is one lady who should appear alot, but with her attitude... lol. Don't get me wrong, maybe there is a cause for interpretation - I am only trying to offer a reasoning that I believe is not considered. Other countries do not have the same genetic makeup as the US, and not the same culture.

[Steve]

isnt everyone racist just by human nature?? or something

[Bondius]

No, I'm not. Why should I hate other people because of their skin color? Aren't we all humans?

[senelgor]

^ Hear hear. I dont give a damn about your color, race, whatever. If I like you, I like you. If I dont, its for a reason. But that reason will never be race. I say that with 100% honesty.

[Bondius]

Exactly. If I hate someone it's not because of their color (skin, hair or even theeth :cheesy:) it's because my natural antisocial instinct :badboys: lol (just kidding).

[PayBays]

well if you're looking how it goes in Holland.

You know the boxing clothes?Lonsdale/Bulldog and the rest.Well last time a Moslim Church ( yeah Moskee don't know how you say that ) has been set in fire.Then on the wall there stands things like: I hate You,i hope you die.No Moskees on South.Lonsdale 4-ever and stuff.

You can't seem to ban racisme,but i'm a not a racist.Everyone is a racist,not from the outside but from the inside.I don't talk to people who are looking dangerous and stuff.I don't talk to people unless i know them.

[Bondius]

Well Alizée isn't a racist how I see it. If I remember right, a black guy appears both in the L'alize video and live show.
My friends consider me a racist because I hate Humans and Undead in Warcraft 3 >_> I'm serious ... that's pathetic.

[Ludicrous Maximus]

Well, I'm very racist then, I always play with humans in roleplaying games.

[Bondius]

Lol I'd play with anything but the humans ... I'm a racist! I hate trolls!! Whatever, let's get back on the subject ... I don't think there's a WoW server called France so we can continue "Racism in France" <_<

[PayBays]

Well i just saw the Moi...Lolita movie and there were black and white people

Alizée doesn't discriminate.She doesn't make the movie,her producer makes it!

[DavidAlizée]

isnt everyone racist just by human nature?? or something

I agree. I mean, im not racist by any means.. But, if im driving, and a black guy cuts me off, the first thing i yell is obvious. Even tho, i aint racist, thats the first thing that comes into my head.

[Steve]

Well at least someone new what i ment! Do the same here dave!!

[Emmerdale001]

I don't believe hatred is a natural state.

Hatred is something that is learned just as the word "nigger" or "kike" is learned. Kids play with each other regardless of their skin color or origins. It is only later on when they learn how to hate each other that they stop playing with each other. Then they start hurting each other later on in life.

The only solution is to fight hatred using education. A person can be taught tolerance as much as intolerance.

[DavidAlizée]

yea but, "niggers" call eachother "nigger" in the hood in America. Why is it racist when a white person calls them a nigger? Isnt Nigger, just short for nigro. Ive been called "whiteboy" so many times by black people, it doesnt bother me at all, because i am white. If i called them blackboy.. then i would be classes racist. So, my point it black people are racist against white people too.

[Steve]

I am more attracted to white girls than asians or black girls, why I dont know its just what I am attracted to, and to some that would be racist!! I think alot of people associate with this, although few would admit

[PayBays]

I'm atracted to white girls 2.But people,i often call my friends ( girls ) "beach"
They like it.And they always call me "beach"

<_<
>_>

[FiEsTa]

Racism is a big part of history... I don't want to comment more, but well I don't think they wanted to show that there is racism in france, in the moi lolita clip.
Alizée is more beautiful than the black one, thats for sure :P

[Ayan]

Europe is full of national countries (for the lack of a better word, that is). One shouldn't really compare them to USA, which is, afterall just a mix of people from different locations of the World. To assume that there should be some sort of a percentage quota to hold up seems rather absurd. People are accused of racism because they don't pay attention to races, they don't care from which race a person is and therefore they are ...racists?

[PayBays]

Racism is a big part of history... I don't want to comment more, but well I don't think they wanted to show that there is racism in france, in the moi lolita clip.
Alizée is more beautiful than the black one, thats for sure :P

Fully agrees!That black one looks a bit "beachy"!

[Melodramatic]

People are accused of racism because they don't pay attention to races, they don't care from which race a person is and therefore they are ...racists?

I was reffering to France's media & their preference for a more caucasian appeal. Dunno if that's still relevant today but if it is, then they're only catering to a certain demographic which, atleast to me, would appear racist. It should be more diverse but oh well.

I found this article dated last year & it pertains to Alizee's island. Thought it was interesting.
Amnesty International calls for swift legal action against authors of racist violence in Corsica
Morocco-France, Local, 12/6/2004

Amnesty International has called the French authorities to take swift legal action against perpetrators of new wave of racist violence against North Africans in the French region of Corsica.

"The French authorities must make it their priority to bring the perpetrators of racist attacks promptly to justice" says the London-based organization which voices concern over the rights of immigrants and those of immigrant origin in Corsica after a disturbing series of acts of racist violence.

On the night of 27 November 2004, the house of a Moroccan imam at Sartene, which includes a prayer room, was attacked by a group of armed men who opened fire on the door of the house, after knocking on it. Imam Mohammed al-Akrach came to the door and upon hearing racist insults did not open it. The men then reportedly fired five to six shots into the door. The imam was not injured.

The attack, which is under judicial investigation, follows an attack a year ago on the same house when the entrance was splashed with inflammable liquid and set on fire. Last week there was a racist attack on a family of Tunisian origin living in Calvi, when shots were fired and Molotov cocktails thrown at the house where a woman and four children were living. Racist graffiti were reportedly left at the scene.

"The identity of the perpetrators of the most recent attack is not yet known. However, Corsican nationalists or autonomists, some of whom have claimed responsibility for previous racist attacks, have a particular responsibility to be firm and consistent in their condemnation of such attacks, irrespective of the identity or aims of the perpetrators," Amnesty International said.

In September 2004, Amnesty International expressed its concern that human rights groups and defenders were being subjected to threats and intimidation after reports of numerous acts of violent racial hatred, directed in particular at the North African community.

This new wave of attacks is the last of several to have been reported in the island's recent history. The acts of violence include bomb attacks on houses, offices and vehicles. According to reports, some members of the Moroccan community have felt under such threat that they have left, while others are planning to leave the island.

[Bondius]

Now that's sick. I know there is lots of racism in the world but that's really sick. If we can't learn to coexist then we're screwed. If it was up to me, I'd fu**ing torture the bastards who did that.

[PayBays]

that's not racisme anymore.It's terrorisme.Where is Bush!?

[Bondius]

No, that's not terrorism, it's racism. The sick bastards probably knew that there was only a mother with 4 children so they took the opportunity.

[PayBays]

racisme is treating people different because of looks,race or background.

I don't think killing people is treating people different.It's murder,and i think it's terrorisme...

[Bondius]

No, you're somewhat wrong. Terrorism is considered an attack by someone on a nation. What happened there will be considered murder ...

[PayBays]

ok...your right in that part.But it will be count as an discriminal-murder...

It's ****** sick!Why would anyone do that!


* reminds me of someone on this board who said that SOMEONE was Satan *

[Emmerdale001]

Actually, terrorism can be committed by nations as well. Very very few powerful nations, if any, can claim their hands are clean of the blood of other people. Look at Iran and its support of Hamas in the West Bank/Gaza Strip. Libya was behind the bombing of Pan-Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland where everyone died.

The only difference is that when nation-states commit acts of terrorism, it's leaders can be tried for crimes against humanity where as people who are not working under the direction of a government are tried for murder.

[Bondius]

Yes, true, but we can't say that what Melo posted was terrorism ...

[benficabeatsporto]

I thought Terrorism is when people put fear into the heart of others..im prolly wrong.

[Bondius]

Yes, that's right, but making your friends fear you because you have a (fake) gun isn't terrorism lol

[PayBays]

Was it a fake gun?I thought they were shooting at the house

[Bondius]

Oh brother, I was just giving an stupid example. Ofc that was a real gun and a real molotov cocktail. The point was that terrorism is considered on a larger scale, like the 9/11 attack (God take care of those poor souls).

[PayBays]

ok...i'm confused...but it's terrible what has happened...also on 9/11

[Bondius]

ok...i'm confused...but it's terrible what has happened...also on 9/11
The example was what happened in my group of friends ... I scared the cr4p out of them with a lighter in the shape of a gun after they pissed me off :mrgreen: I know, I'm nuts.

[PayBays]

ok...i'm confused...but it's terrible what has happened...also on 9/11
The example was what happened in my group of friends ... I scared the cr4p out of them with a lighter in the shape of a gun after they pissed me off :mrgreen: I know, I'm nuts.

:shock:

* takes a few steps back *

You're nuts Bondius...

* runs *

[alizeefan1]

I think that the racism is a part of the European society , an example in Sweden and Germany if one is South American or is different to they is discriminated of a way or another, in Spain happen the same with the morocco and Romanian people .

The European society is Classist ,arrogant sometimes to extremes and little friendly .Maybe because the people didn't learned to live with people of others cultures .

In America the society is friendly,open to the world and to others cultures and aren't arrogants

[Bondius]

Yes, you're right, but I don't see any reason for Spain to hate romanian people. Our people go there often to work (cheaper than other people) so we can say we have a stable relation. Spain doesn't hate romanians, Spain hates gypsies. It's sad to say but many nations start to think that Romania is full of them and that's because most go to other countries to beg, prostitute and other stupid activities, thus giving Romania a bad name.
Ok, sorry for going off-topic since it's about France, not other countries, but I know gypsies go to France as well.

[gaston_alizee]

Amnesty International calls for swift legal action against authors of racist violence in Corsica
Morocco-France, Local, 12/6/2004

Amnesty International has called the French authorities to take swift legal action against perpetrators of new wave of racist violence against North Africans in the French region of Corsica.

"The French authorities must make it their priority to bring the perpetrators of racist attacks promptly to justice" says the London-based organization which voices concern over the rights of immigrants and those of immigrant origin in Corsica after a disturbing series of acts of racist violence.

On the night of 27 November 2004, the house of a Moroccan imam at Sartene, which includes a prayer room, was attacked by a group of armed men who opened fire on the door of the house, after knocking on it. Imam Mohammed al-Akrach came to the door and upon hearing racist insults did not open it. The men then reportedly fired five to six shots into the door. The imam was not injured.

The attack, which is under judicial investigation, follows an attack a year ago on the same house when the entrance was splashed with inflammable liquid and set on fire. Last week there was a racist attack on a family of Tunisian origin living in Calvi, when shots were fired and Molotov cocktails thrown at the house where a woman and four children were living. Racist graffiti were reportedly left at the scene.

"The identity of the perpetrators of the most recent attack is not yet known. However, Corsican nationalists or autonomists, some of whom have claimed responsibility for previous racist attacks, have a particular responsibility to be firm and consistent in their condemnation of such attacks, irrespective of the identity or aims of the perpetrators," Amnesty International said.

In September 2004, Amnesty International expressed its concern that human rights groups and defenders were being subjected to threats and intimidation after reports of numerous acts of violent racial hatred, directed in particular at the North African community.

This new wave of attacks is the last of several to have been reported in the island's recent history. The acts of violence include bomb attacks on houses, offices and vehicles. According to reports, some members of the Moroccan community have felt under such threat that they have left, while others are planning to leave the island.

This is really disgusting! :tongue: :yuk: And I would like to add this : a lot of persons claim that they are not racist, just to make good impression, but in truth, they are sometimes VERY racist. This is cowardice I think. (I DO NOT ACCUSE ANYONE, I JUST TALK IN GENERAL.)

[DavidAlizée]

I will point out, black people are racist too. Swings and roundabouts.

[gaston_alizee]

Frank, when I see all these white racist people, I think black people can, you know, return the favour...

[PayBays]

everyone is a racist...Even a 7 year old child who plays with some girls of her with Barbies.If a boy comes by and asks to join in ( how dumb must he be ) and they say no...that should be racisme to.Like i said everyone is a rasist

( knows someone is gonna quote this )

[Mr Bond]

^ PayBays that wouldn't be racist that would be sexist if anything.

[D13U]

In America the society is friendly,open to the world and to others cultures and aren't arrogants
Riiiight.. America is all about arms wide open. Have you ever been here? To New York City? To any form of a "ghetto"? To North Carolina(The HQ of the KKK, one of the most racist groups on Earth)? If you haven't experienced any of this.. you must have been in a very sheltered area... because it's bad here. Real bad.

[Emmerdale001]

I don't think a country exists that does not have problems seen in any other country. Racism, religious intolerance, discrimination, etc.--these are things you find in almost any country to some degree. People are not perfect. Hatred is something that is learned. It is not in-born. However, something that is learned can also be unlearned given education. Education is ultimately the final solution to these issues.

A person can learn to love just as much as he can learn to hate.