[Misc] Latest Lili Stuff 2

[Snatcher42]

[Continued from: http://www.alizee-forum.com/topic,10154,-latest-lili-stuff.html]

I've locked off the above thread because it had exceeded the forum memory limit. We can continue things here.

But let me also remind everyone that this thread is for posting those little pieces of miscellaneous information that do not warrant their own threads. We had gotten to the point where even big pieces of news would be posted to "Latest Lili Stuff", and that's one reason why the topic had gone out of proportion.

So don't be afraid to start a new topic when the subject warrants it... or to post here when it doesn't. Thanks.

[Snatcher42]

Next answer from http://www.moi-lolita.fr.st

-Was CTT considered at one point as a single to promote the Live album?
Indeed it was... though for reasons unknown they eventually settled on Amelie instead.

[DavidAlizée]

I think that was a good choice. A very good choice!

[Ayan]

Probably because when promoting MCE, no ballade was released as a single. ( G= PTB ) So they figured they do not want to become too rockish. Quite obvious actually.

[Petsku1]

Yep, when thinking the choice afterwards Amélie M'a Dit was probably the most suitable song from those that had not yet been released as a single.

The song is in balance not being either, one of the fastest or slowest songs on MCE.

[mot]

Although I'm a big fan of CTT, I'm a much bigger fan of AMD.

So in my opinion this was for the best, simple 'cause I adore ballads like AMD or Lui ou Toi!

[Backinblack]

From Rozier on the French forum:

PRESSE : alizée a le droit a un article avec photo dans la rubrique actu du mag STAR SECRET ! rien de bien folichon , on y apprend que la belle accouchera en fin avril voir debut mai et qu ensuite elle devrait se concentrer sur son nouvel album !

"Alizée will have an article with a picture in the news section of the magazine Star Secret. Nothing to write home about, but we learn that she will give birth at the end of April or beginning of May at the latest, and then she should be concentrating on her new album."

:dribble: :dribble:

[ArlettyFan]

From Rozier on the French forum:

PRESSE : alizée a le droit a un article avec photo dans la rubrique actu du mag STAR SECRET ! rien de bien folichon , on y apprend que la belle accouchera en fin avril voir debut mai et qu ensuite elle devrait se concentrer sur son nouvel album !

"Alizée will have an article with a picture in the news section of the magazine Star Secret. Nothing to write home about, but we learn that she will give birth at the end of April or beginning of May at the latest, and then she should be concentrating on her new album."

:dribble: :dribble:

I'm tearing up! :cry: :cry: :cry: I'm so...happy!

[DavidAlizée]

Yeah, but how long after she gives birth will it be? It still could be months.. However, it is for sure going to be 2006 (late) before it gets released. ?

Its a shame a single wouldnt get released, as a kind of teaser. ( with video )

[Petsku1]

Few months is nothing...take your time and once again congratulations Alizée!

anyway the wait for the next performances and interviews begins, great!

[mot]

Aw Mark, even that little bit of news made my tummy tincle!
So there is no real long break expected to fully take care of the Baby?

I guess that has it up and downside!

[UK Fan 2003]

So there is no real long break expected to fully take care of the Baby?

^ I was wondering that...
...but hey she'll concentrate on a new album, now that's some pretty cool news. Not long for the birth of the baby....isn't it exciting !!! :P

[Eukie]

Excellent thing to hear to keep a Monday going :)

[Zoomer]

Good news for the start of a week :) Put a smile on my face, cheers for the news BiB.

[Darius]

This made me happy, great news. :D
Btw, it's already the end of April... not much time left.

[Snatcher42]

When does this magazine come out?

[DavidAlizée]

I was going to make a poll, and select dates! :mrgreen:

But, ill just make my prediction here. I say.. 2nd may.

[Snatcher42]

You mean for the birth, right (not the magazine)? Cause if the mag's saying "late April or early May", then it's gotta come out before May.

[DavidAlizée]

oh, i didnt see you posted. I was talking to Darius.

Yep, for the birth.

[grhawk]

Umm, shouldn't she be concentrating on raising her child first and foremost? Being a mother isn't like having a part time job. I hope she has her priorities straight. Being so young she may not realize what a responsibility she has coming. Hopefully after the baby is born she will understand and back off the new album for awhile.

[Backinblack]

Good points, but I doubt she'll give birth on Monday and then show up to the studio on Tuesday. I'm sure she'll take a little time to take care of the baby before she starts working again. And it's not like she has to put in 12-hour days in the studio; I don't think they'd be in a time crunch to get the album done. Also, she has her circle of friends and family who would undoubtedly be more than willing to take care of the baby for a few hours or a couple days at a time.

[ArlettyFan]

:studio tech 3: Hey ALizée! How did the pregnancy go yesterday?

:Alizée: Oh it went well

:studio tech 3: How is the baby?

:ALizée: oh she is just beautiful y'know.

[slickis]

right out of left field here, but is alizee a rich person?

nice avatar too Jang!

[Zeka]

I believe She has enough money... :cheesy:
1.5 million copies of "Moi...Lolita" single are 1.5 million copies,right? :wink:
She isn't the richest person in France,that's for sure,but I believe She must have some money,although you can't say that from Her appearance and style-She is not high in the clouds,puffed-up like some rich people.She is very modest and you can see that from Her interviews and all the things She does...

[DavidAlizée]

hehe i dunno.. Not all pop stars are rich. The band in England Girls Aliud only make £300,00 per week!!

Then again, it is all they are worth lol

[Darius]

I don't think she is very rich. Though I think she has enought money for her needs.

[Snatcher42]

Tomorrow at 23h, MCM will be re-broadcasting all of Alizée's official music video clips... so if you get that channel, be sure to catch Lili on the Tele.

[Orion]

hey Snatcher, have you heard of any reason for this re-broadcast? Do you know if they will be talking about her and stuff? thanks. If yes, then people MUST press that Juicy red button.

[Snatcher42]

Nope, dunno... but from what I've seen of MCM, they just show videos with no talk in between other than adverts.

[DavidAlizée]

thats cool.. maybe there will be a better version of ACC withought the nasty pink text!

[Manu]

I also think she's gonna take it easy, so I guess she first has to try to remember, bit by bit, what being a singer is all about. Let's give her the time.

And lol, Jango :cheesy:

[Snatcher42]

maybe there will be a better version of ACC withought the nasty pink text!
Pink text?

[kris]

On which satelite is that channel ? Hot bird or Astra ?

[DavidAlizée]

maybe there will be a better version of ACC withought the nasty pink text!
Pink text?

Well, not pink i should say. Its red and yellow.. mixture. On the ACC off vid, clips des clipd channel 6Music. Annoying when making gifs, withought using Image ready. Id love a high quality version that doesnt flash up all sorts of text when the chorus starts.

[Zeka]

No MCM for me.... :cry: :tears:

[tern]

I know this is a bit late but that is incredible news. Makes going off to a chem quiz in a bit so trivial. Awaiting scans!

[Snatcher42]

Next answer from http://www.moi-lolita.fr.st

Mylène Farmer et Laurent Boutonnat seront-ils toujours sur le troisième album (parolier, compositeur, producteurs) ?

Ils seraient apparemment toujours producteurs d'Alizée sur ce troisième album, mais n'interviendraient pas au niveau des chansons. Ce seraient donc d'autres auteurs et compositeurs
Will Mylène Farmer and Laurent Boutonnat still be on the third album (lyric writers, composers, producers)?

They will apparently still be Alizée's producers on this third album, but will not intervene on the level of the songs. It will thus have other authors and composers.

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Nidalizee has also uploaded a large collection of press scans from 2000 - many never seen before online. So check it out here:

http://www.nidalizee.com/presse/presse%202000/presse_2000.htm

[tern]

maybe there will be a better version of ACC withought the nasty pink text!
Pink text?

Well, not pink i should say. Its red and yellow.. mixture. On the ACC off vid, clips des clipd channel 6Music. Annoying when making gifs, withought using Image ready. Id love a high quality version that doesnt flash up all sorts of text when the chorus starts.

David I once had that version of ACC that you have. There's a clearer one out there and doesn't have the colored text -138MB (it was annoying :P )

http://students.washington.edu/kuesterj/Data/M6ACCvid.jpg

[Backinblack]

Clarification from Pinocchio on the Alliance here (http://www.alizeealliance.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=5612&st=0).

Because M & L will still be Alizée's producers, the style of promotion will still be the same (promotion materials, TV appearances, outfits, etc). The problem is having to wait for M & L to free up their schedules: Alizée can't really come back when she wants to; it will depend on Mylène. So, spring 2006 at the earliest. In any case, since they most likely won't be involved in the music aspect, that wouldn't prevent the songs from being recorded already this year. Alizée would have to get in touch with Sirkis before he releases his own album at the end of this year.

[Jaycubed]

Hmm so it's all about finding a window. At least there is no rush, it's not like planning an album will be anywhere near no.1 on her mind right now, and in a way that's pleasant.

But people Want to work with Alizée, so that's a positive, in a way the ball is still in her court...but Spring 2006 is only a year away, it will roll around in a jiffy.

[DavidAlizée]

But people Want to work with Alizée, so that's a positive

ofc they do!

@Ternuc, when you get time, can you upload it, or tell me the filename so i can get it from you in the Hub. My version of ACC is like the one you posted..; I would love a better version.

[Snatcher42]

Hmm, I hope MF/LB contribute at least something to the music on the next album... even if it's only one song.

David I once had that version of ACC that you have. There's a clearer one out there and doesn't have the colored text -138MB (it was annoying :P )
There's also the version Olympio captured off the 100% M6 Music Special several months ago... I'll upload that one since it's less common.

EDIT
Here it is:
http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2Y3L2UZTYE5OE2P3CB0URRS182

[tern]

Hmm, I hope MF/LB contribute at least something to the music on the next album... even if it's only one song.

David I once had that version of ACC that you have. There's a clearer one out there and doesn't have the colored text -138MB (it was annoying :P )
There's also the version Olympio captured off the 100% M6 Music Special several months ago... I'll upload that one since it's less common.

EDIT
Here it is:
http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2Y3L2UZTYE5OE2P3CB0URRS182

Thank you Snatcher. Will view in moments. :mrgreen:

[DavidAlizée]

Ive tried twice to download it and its incomplete. ?

[tern]

Nah, it's all there but I say the 138MB one (that is in my share if you want it) is much better in quality than this new one. I will post screens later.

[Snatcher42]

Yeah, I'd say so too... but this one has less text.

Here's another link for it. Maybe this one will work for you David?
http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=38N6JYWEYJ9AY0Q2IYBBNFRC5X

And here's the 138 meg version for those who want it:
http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1S4CAYWIE8LSW3SW6V6CEG3ZGO

[tern]

That Cent Pour Cent version Snatcher first:

http://students.washington.edu/kuesterj/Data/CentPourCentACC.jpg
The 138 MB version most of us have:

http://students.washington.edu/kuesterj/Data/M6ACC.jpg

[Snatcher42]

^ Yeah as I said, the benefit of this version is the lack of text:

http://img58.echo.cx/img58/30/snapshot200505010727397ay.jpg

http://img58.echo.cx/img58/6196/snapshot200505010723042dl.jpg

I've uploaded both, so you can choose.

[tern]

Yeah ofc it's a good idea to have both, but the text about the concerts is only flashed for 24 seconds.

[ArlettyFan]

That Cent Pour Cent version Snatcher first:

The 138 MB version most of us have:

http://students.washington.edu/kuesterj/Data/M6ACC.jpg

Yes, that's the one I have. Besides the smaller 100 mb one, which I mistook as being some huge version when Snatcher42 was downloading it (sorry). :shock:

[Piece Of Paradise]

Clarification from Pinocchio on the Alliance here (http://www.alizeealliance.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=5612&st=0).

Because M & L will still be Alizée's producers, the style of promotion will still be the same (promotion materials, TV appearances, outfits, etc). The problem is having to wait for M & L to free up their schedules: Alizée can't really come back when she wants to; it will depend on Mylène. So, spring 2006 at the earliest. In any case, since they most likely won't be involved in the music aspect, that wouldn't prevent the songs from being recorded already this year. Alizée would have to get in touch with Sirkis before he releases his own album at the end of this year.

Nice to hear that Alizée will have more people writing her songs. It would be even better if she writes some of them herself.

[ArlettyFan]

I'm not sure if it would be better, if she writes a song herself, but if it has good results, it could be. :twisted:

[SeeMeRot]

:roll: ...

of course it's better.......sure it would be safest to stick with "successful songwriters" ....but her own developement has more benefits in the longrun.....

[tern]

I'm not sure if it would be better, if she writes a song herself, but if it has good results, it could be. :twisted:

Meh, doesn't make any sense to me anyway. Just so long as the music is nice and her wonderful voice is there I will be happy.

[DavidAlizée]

Yeah thanks Ben, works fine. I have then M6 version, but the otherone is good for no txt.

[Snatcher42]

Heads up: Alizée is gonna be on the cover of tomorrow's PUBLIC.

And here are some links to other articles on the baby... they seem to be going with the "Anny-Lee" spelling:

d'autres articles relatant la nouvelle sur le net :

CanalStars (http://www.canalstars.com/canalstars%5Ccanalstars.nsf/wpotincs?open&pn=960A076E876947E0C1256FF9002A1590)
TéléStar (http://www.telestar.fr/tele/telestar.nsf/warticles/0720A32B5E7A8D5EC1256FF9005491EF)
Amazigh (http://www.pipole.net/modules/infos/article-831--alizee-jeremy-chatelain-parents-une-petite-fille.html)

[tern]

Wow, great idea of amazigh to choose a pic from about 3 years ago and not include Jérémy's pic in the article. But hey, if Anny-lee it is, Anny-lee it will be.

[Snatcher42]

Not to mention the fact that they say she is 22! :lol:

[kennythekid]

LOol :lol: she is not even 21

[tern]

Cmon guys only 2 years off doesn't make it bad journalism. :P

[Tim]

Cmon guys only 2 years off doesn't make it bad journalism. :P
It makes it terrible journalism.

[Snatcher42]

Alizée vs. Voici, Round 3:

http://intralizee.free.fr/attaquevoici.jpg

Ty Theo / Intralizee.

This is over the images printed in the April 18th issue of Voici... since those images have appeared in other papers (including Le Matin first), I'm guessing this isn't an issue of their being made public or not, but rather specifically denying Voici the permission to print such things.

[ArlettyFan]

HUGE grin on my face over this! :lol:

[Jaycubed]

Man, this is kinda turning into a big fight now, i can't remember seeing many 3 round disputes in any manner of lowlife publications, maybe one, but not 3.

[tern]

Perhaps it was with those pictures whoever got permission from Alizée to take them was allowed to give (sell :x ) them to Le Matin or some decent publication like that and not voici.

[Zeka]

Yes.However,I support Alizee in Her eternal fight against Voici!!!! :thumbup: :boff:
The Good against the Evil!!!! Maybe I'll should go and do some :showoff: ,so I can help Her beating their a***s :dribble:

[Ask For More]

Yes.However,I support Alizee in Her eternal fight against Voici!!!! :thumbup: :boff:

yes, me 2, go Alizée!!!!!

[Orion]

I think the lawyers are getting rich. Aside from that, I am glad that Alizée doesn't have to talk to thosae jerks and blood suckers face to face.

[Backinblack]

From rozier, it seems that members of Alizée's entourage are whispering that Alizée has contacted her old collaborators (in other words, M&L) to begin in September a series of meetings to talk about her new album. Nicolas Sirkis has also apparently given her a few projects to work on and to give her opinion on.

Rumors for now, but if it's true, we would have the album sometime in 2006 as expected.

[muppetyoda]

From rozier, it seems that members of Alizée's entourage are whispering that Alizée has contacted her old collaborators (in other words, M&L) to begin in September a series of meetings to talk about her new album. Nicolas Sirkis has also apparently given her a few projects to work on and to give her opinion on.

Rumors for now, but if it's true, we would have the album sometime in 2006 as expected.

That is FANTASTIC news - thanks for the potential heads up! I would like to be a part of Alizee's Entourage!

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[tern]

From rozier, it seems that members of Alizée's entourage are whispering that Alizée has contacted her old collaborators (in other words, M&L) to begin in September a series of meetings to talk about her new album. Nicolas Sirkis has also apparently given her a few projects to work on and to give her opinion on.

Rumors for now, but if it's true, we would have the album sometime in 2006 as expected.

Whoop whoop! I have been listening to a bit more of Indochine lately and I must say I am impressed by their musical talent. But again, not sure of how it will cross-over to Alizée. 2006, year of the Alizée!

[Zeka]

Thanks,BiB.That's wonderful news! :D Keeping my fingers crossed for Alizee and Her crew. :bounce:

[Steve]

2006 Year of the Alizee

mmmmm I like the idea! :)

[ArlettyFan]

Odd, the Nicola rumors had dropped for a while until this.

[Orion]

I can't wait for 2006 . . . or for now, Sept. 2005 hehe. More great news. Thanks for the heads up BIB!! Everything is slowing progressing; can't wait to reach the climactic event :D

[Akbar]

for BIB : Ok , I understand that she will meet with her producers to talk about a new album. But what about the Nicolas Sirkis projects? Are those advertisements or television shows? Will she consider working again with other artists...

[tern]

Odd, the Nicola rumors had dropped for a while until this.

Well Alizée did say in that talk with publicist that she would probably be working with other French artists on her next CD, and I believe Sirkis was even mentioned.

[Ramon_Morales_Jr]

im lost :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

[MetalicGuy]

It's good to hear that things are happening on the music level.

[gaston_alizee]

It's good to hear that things are happening on the music level.
Oh yes! Finally some news! Thanks Backinblack!

[Piece Of Paradise]

It's always great to hear news of Alizée, especially those of her new album. Thanks BIB!

[Ask For More]

Whiii, a new album. Thanks for the news Back in black!!!!!!!!!!!

[UK Fan 2003]

Wow, an album release in '06...I really hope so, it'd be brill !

I hope these aren't false rumours....fingers crossed anyways !

Thanks alot for the update BiB, you're a star !

[FiEsTa]

omg cant wait :D Im so happy to hear this, bzw. BiB where u got the news from

[DavidAlizée]

But we always knew there would be an album release in 06.

[Backinblack]

But we always knew there would be an album release in 06.
Guess it's something a little more concrete now.

By the way, another report from rozier said that during her time off, Alizée has been spending time checking out the Internet sites dedicated to her, and she has been pleasantly surprised at the number of fans who are still supporting her, but a little saddened by some people's reactions to her pregnancy pictures.

[DavidAlizée]

Hmm, she must not have read the English section of this forum then, i wonder if she visited the french part of it. Or the Alliance..

[tern]

Hmm, she must not have read the English section of this forum then, i wonder if she visited the french part of it. Or the Alliance..

Yep, I think people here were quite happy at the news. Maybe there were a couple of n00bs who made bad comments, but no one who really is here for her that I remember.

[mot]

Wonderful information!
Shame she has to register to see my ava/sig >:[



Oh and that "saddened" <-- :weep: :( :tears: :ill:

Bad people! vewy bad :mad:

[Homer]

Hmm, she must not have read the English section of this forum then, i wonder if she visited the french part of it. Or the Alliance..
Yes, it´s sad, but I´ve seen some messages in the Alliance (not in the french section) that were very unrespectful.

I don´t understand the behaviour of some members of the Alliance :roll:

[gaston_alizee]

I´ve seen some messages in the Alliance (not in the french section) that were very unrespectful.

I don´t understand the behaviour of some members of the Alliance :roll:
Some quotes? (I'm registred in the Alliance, but I never consult it... lol)

[Snatcher42]

More Alizée airplane pics, and a skin for MS Flight Sim 04:
http://www.alizeealliance.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=5760

[gaston_alizee]

Thank you Snatcher42! Cool photos...

[FiEsTa]

I dont know where u find those photos all the time, but it makes me feel happy^^ when I see an airplaine with her name xD

[muppetyoda]

Awesome! Very much looking forward to when these bloody exams are over and i can take that plane to the skies in Flight Sim!

Thanks again,

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[Snatcher42]

Little update... According to Rozier, Alizée was in the offices of Universal this week to discuss plans for the direction of her future career. Dunno what exactly was discussed or decided, but it seems that something may be afoot. :)

[muppetyoda]

Wow...that is unbelievable news. Finally some real sounds of things heading in the right direction. I just hope she get's something rolling for around July next year when I'll be hitting Europe (Scotland and Germany mainly, with plenty of time in Paris of course!)...me and my other Alizee fan mate will be there for sure!!! :mrgreen:

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[gaston_alizee]

es ce dans le bon ou le mauvais sens ? aucune idée , ce qui est clair c est que des decisions ont été prises !
It means that Alizée maybe decided to stop her career!!!
I prefer to not think about it now!!!

[Snatcher42]

I think thats over-reacting, Gaston. Literally it says "be it in a good or bad direction? No idea, the only thing clear is that decisions were made!" Bad direction could mean many things other than stopping her career - a longer break, fewer appearances, etc. Or the decisions could be precisely the opposite (a quicker, bigger return). So don't get excited yet! :)

[tern]

I think thats over-reacting, Gaston. Literally it says "be it in a good or bad direction? No idea, the only thing clear is that decisions were made!" Bad direction could mean many things other than stopping her career - a longer break, fewer appearances, etc. Or the decisions could be precisely the opposite (a quicker, bigger return). So don't get excited yet! :)

I'll get excited... just happy excited! I sure hope whatever happens that it is good news for us!

[Orion]

Hi guys! All I can say is think positive. Things are looking up and we are starting to see a return to ol' days when we were talking about albums and songs and our Lili. It's like a present that we are only allowed to unwrap a bit at a time. I'm feeling nostalgic, the more Ben, BIB and the gang bring us more info. Thanks guys; and thanks Alliance! This whole forum is starting to get lively again, the closer we get to 2006. One step at a time, though.

[gaston_alizee]

I think thats over-reacting, Gaston. Literally it says "be it in a good or bad direction? No idea, the only thing clear is that decisions were made!" Bad direction could mean many things other than stopping her career - a longer break, fewer appearances, etc. Or the decisions could be precisely the opposite (a quicker, bigger return). So don't get excited yet! :)
Yes, I agree, but IF IT'S A BAD DESCISION?! It can be! Anny-lee is one month old!

[MChief]

COOL plane i am going to get it to flight silulator 2004 but the modell isn't my favorite :( but i will try it anyway

[ArlettyFan]

I think thats over-reacting, Gaston. Literally it says "be it in a good or bad direction? No idea, the only thing clear is that decisions were made!" Bad direction could mean many things other than stopping her career - a longer break, fewer appearances, etc. Or the decisions could be precisely the opposite (a quicker, bigger return). So don't get excited yet! :)
Yes, I agree, but IF IT'S A BAD DESCISION?! It can be! Anny-lee is one month old!

No sense worrying about it though, seeing how little we know. I mean, that sentence was just someone supposing.

[Homer]

Yes, and the meaning could be also stop working with Universal, but not stop her career...

[Zeka]

C'mon guys and girls,we talked about this so many times before... :roll:
Just be positive-She WILL be back,don't worry.The only important thing right now is the baby,and it is completely normal that someone heard something,couple of persons carried that message and something like this happened:from "I'm planing to do a new album with Universal" it became "I'm flying into the space next year"!!! :yuk:
Rumors,nothing else,that's all.And take a look at Snatcher's post-he said that She had visited Universal and that SOMETHING had been going on,nothing else.Most probably they were talking about the new material and plans for the new album.Or maybe She was discussing about a crew for Her new album?Or it may be anything...
So be excited in a positive way :mrgreen: .

[Snatcher42]

INFO

FIABILITEE 70%

alizée vient d echapper , ce lundi , de justesse , a la une d un celebre magazine people francais qui détennais toute une serie de photo d elle et d anny lee dans PARIS ! decouvrant le poteau rose elle a fait tout bonnement interdire la parution de ses photos et a meme rachetée les droits de parutions de celles ci par precautions ! tant pis pour le magazine et bravo alizée !

Hmm, having trouble translating this (help?), but I think it's saying there's a rumor (70% reliable) that a whole series of photographs of Alizée and Anny-Lee will appear in a magazine this Monday.

[Backinblack]

It says that Alizée managed just in time to prevent a famous celebrity magazine (probably Voici) from publishing photos taken of her and Anny-Lee in Paris. She bought the publication rights to the photos just in time to prevent the magazine from publishing them. I guess if someone ever publishes a picture of the baby, it's going to be with Alizée's consent only.

[kennythekid]

i think your right and that it wont happend very soon :wink:

[tern]

Voici. Bleh. I guess another small victory, though it's kinda sad.

[Ayan]

It says that Alizée managed just in time to prevent a famous celebrity magazine (probably Voici) from publishing photos taken of her and Anny-Lee in Paris. She bought the publication rights to the photos just in time to prevent the magazine from publishing them. I guess if someone ever publishes a picture of the baby, it's going to be with Alizée's consent only. So now Voici is blackmailing Alizée to get back the money they lost in courts? Grrrrreat...

[tern]

It says that Alizée managed just in time to prevent a famous celebrity magazine (probably Voici) from publishing photos taken of her and Anny-Lee in Paris. She bought the publication rights to the photos just in time to prevent the magazine from publishing them. I guess if someone ever publishes a picture of the baby, it's going to be with Alizée's consent only. So now Voici is blackmailing Alizée to get back the money they lost in courts? Grrrrreat...

It sounds to me more like a photographer called her and said Voici offered so much for them but he would sell them to her for such and such an amount. Either way, it's Voici (or whatever mag) who caused it.

[Ayan]

I guess that would actually make a little bit more sense. But just a little bit.

[Akbar]

The ones who suffer from the lack of those pictures with the babies are the Alizee fans :roll: . Myself, I handle this lack pretty good , thinking that those Voici scums :badboys: didn't get hand on some beautiful pictures with our beloved Alizee :oops: :lol:

[grhawk]

It's not Voici's fault. It is the people that buy crap like that which fuel photographers to get pictures and sell to Voici. It is simple supply and demand. Greg

[DavidAlizée]

Yes, i agree with that.. well said!

[muppetyoda]

While that's very true, are you saying that if Voici (despite how hated they are by most of us) had published the photos, that you wouldn't have bought it - or had scans up of it here?

It's a double edged sword. Unfortunately it is all part and parcel of being a celebrity - people are interested in you and your life despite the desire to keep much of it private; which is fair enough.

Now, Alizee mightn't want to do this and that's fine, but if she were to have some proper photos of her and the baby taken, she could herself sell some nice photos to mags that were interested (excluding voici to piss them off). Now i do see that that's not really fair becuse it is, in a way, forcing alizee to publish the photos - which she has every right not to, but it might take some of the paparazzi heat off (cause who's going to want crap quality digitally zoomed photos when you can have properly done, beatutiful photos)!

Just a thought.

[bohemian72]

A lot of celebrities do not want their kids exposed to that kind of stuff. I mean I can probably count on one hand the number of pictures I've seen with Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman's kids (they're adopted, but that doesn't matter). These kids have two of the biggest stars in Hollywood as parents and it's only been just recently now that the kids are older that I've seen any pictures of them at all.
Granted I don't go all in to looking for pictures of every little aspect of some celebs life.
I don't see the attraction to these paparazzi shots anyway. Most celebreties, when they're not all dolled up for a professional shoot, don't look all that much better than anyone else. It's largely the magic of the camera and the costume and makeup designers that make these people so beautiful.

[Snatcher42]

I don't see the attraction to these paparazzi shots anyway. Most celebreties, when they're not all dolled up for a professional shoot, don't look all that much better than anyone else. It's largely the magic of the camera and the costume and makeup designers that make these people so beautiful.
Yeah, though Lili certainly is an exception to this rule. Hardly a bad pic of her, candid or otherwise.


It's good Alizée was able to intercept these pics in time (btw, the "buying" thing was just a precaution... it says she could have stopped their publication simply by denying the rights), but paparazzi are the name of the game. You can't blame Voici or whatever mag for the whole celebrity system. What you can be mad at them for is being more slanderous and vicious than other mags of their type. :x BTW, I agree with what you said, muppetyoda. I think the best way to avoid such gossip is just by being a little more open. But of course it's Lili's right alone to make decisions about that. Oh well.

[bohemian72]

What you can be mad at them for is being more slanderous and vicious than other mags of their type. :x

The magazine is not slanderous! Slander is spoken, in print it's libel. :wink:

[Snatcher42]

The magazine is not slanderous! Slander is spoken, in print it's libel. :wink:
Heh, only in law... and then just "slander", as "slanderous" describes the use of it (oral or otherwise). Generally I think slanderous and libelous are synonymous.

[muppetyoda]

I'd agree with that - I would use slanderous. Either that or call them 'scouse bastards' (my call for the moment!) :lol:

[DavidAlizée]

lol, yeah. Everyone calls voici for invading her space, yet the scans and pictures still get posted here lol. I'm sure Alizée will be happy tho, to see her private pics that voici get hold of, posted on fan sites. :roll: Voici isnt a bad mag, that kinda thing happens all the time in the press. At the end of the day, if it wasnt for voici and other press, we wouldnt have a clue what is going on, expet for rumours that are no good for anyone/.

[Pistacho]

Voici, magazines and press in general must respect the decission of the famous. If Alizée doesn't want to see her pics there, then her pics shouldn't be there. It's a shame that Alizée has had to go to juzges three (four?) times to put that kind of magazines in their way. But what is even more a shame is that Alizée has to PAY for not to see her pics published. In France the law seems to be a shit... :roll:

[Snatcher42]

It's not so simple... say a person takes a photo as I'm walking by on the street, and I get in their picture. The photo doesn't belong to me now, it's still the photographers. I can't tell him not to print it because I'm in there. That's the idea paparazzi photographers exploit: if the celeb is out in public, any picture they manage to take is fair game. Especially in the USA there isn't much the subject can do after that. France does have some privacy laws to stop this sort of thing, and Alizée has used them to win those cases in the past. Some of those also involved the use of official copyrighted photos, so that's a different ballgame. Voici is a crappy mag because they love nothing better than to rip apart a celebrity with their pictures and words... but they are not solely responsible for the existence of paparazzi. I'm sure most of the photos are purchased from freelance photographers. They'd sell their pics to another mag if Voici wasn't around. You can say this is terrible and unfortunate, and it is (especially for the celebrities), but trying to stop it altogether would be a dangerous violation of freedom.

I'm sure Alizée realizes that she's in the same boat as every celebrity, and her legal actions are no doubt primarily preventative measures. If she consistently makes it difficult for paparazzi and tabloid magazines, they'll be less eager to keep prying into her private life. Again, I'm not sure I personally agree with that strategy - as muppetyoda first suggested, being more open to the public can have the same result as well - but it is how Alizée has chosen to deal with this.

[grhawk]

It's the little old ladies in the grocery stores that buy those magazines. Ever notice that? I think alizee made a mistake buying them. That is blackmail and once you start it you can't stop it. Is she going to buy all paparazzi picks of little Anny-Lee? Now she has setup herself for this again. She is young and will learn hopefully. Greg

[Snatcher42]

I think Alizée made a mistake buying them. That is blackmail and once you start it you can't stop it. Is she going to buy all paparazzi picks of little Anny-Lee?
Well again, she didn't have to buy them to prevent their publication... as nidalizee says on this, "Découvrant le poteau rose elle a fait tout bonnement interdire la parution de ces photos et a même racheté les droits de parutions de celles ci par précautions." <-- Meaning the purchase was just an extra precaution. And she may even have other reasons for doing it, such as possibly releasing them herself one day. It doesn't sound like anyone was asking for the money. Keep in mind though, it's all just rumor - we don't even know if any of this actually happened at all! It's like the other big news on the French forums now: some radio announcer said "Alizée will have a new album soon." Soon, heh. Could mean anything. I take it to mean "within the next two years." ;)

[muppetyoda]

mmm..thanks for the update on the French laws re: paparazzi - i'd be intersted to know how these differ from country to country; very little i would imagine.

The more I think about it, the more I think all this interest from paparazzi, public etc. is just part of the 'job' of being a celebrity. As for precedents set with buying photos or being more open, there's no really satisfactory answer - each of those avenues leads to it's own pros and cons.

'lifestyles of the rich and the famous' i would suggest!

[senelgor]

All part of the days job. One reason I could never be a celeb. Well the other reason hehe.

I couldnt take all these bloody people prying into my life. But, if you want to be a celeb, its just just something you have to accept because there isnt much else you can do. You can bet youll be scoped out at some point too.

^ "lifestyles of the rich and famous" indeed. :roll:

[bohemian72]

All part of the days job. One reason I could never be a celeb. Well the other reason hehe.

I couldnt take all these bloody people prying into my life. But, if you want to be a celeb, its just just something you have to accept because there isnt much else you can do. You can bet youll be scoped out at some point too.

^ "lifestyles of the rich and famous" indeed. :roll:


And a lot of celebrities take it in stride and are quite gracious about getting their pictures taken. . . . but . . . . when kids enter the picture, it becomes a whole new ballgame.

[senelgor]

^Well yes, I mean youve got to be. Its a given that you can deal with it well because your gonna be dealing with it a *lot*. I mean people specifically know where your supposed to be to get those shots and get their money.

On the kids, it should change when they come into the picture. That kind of exposure and junk could really mess you up when youre just a lil one. I know one celeb certaintly comes to mind. :roll:

[DavidAlizée]

yea i agree with all of that. Its just the way it is. The movie stars respect the paparazzi, in turn for respect. When they start upsetting them, by sueing.. them thing get nasty. Fair enough, when kids come into the picture, celebs can appeal. At the end of the day, people want to see these picture, and pay alot of money to get them, so it is never going to change as long as US, the public like to see them.

Regarding Alizée, .. she has had a baby. This is big news to Alizée fans, they wanna see her baby! So, the paparazzi take the pics to print. It is going to happen, not because "voici are evil" or " voici are blah blah blah" It is because the PUBLIC want to see her baby!!

[le bear]

You are right, because of who she is, the public will always be interested in her life, especially the private aspects of it. She can either fight that or accept that and allow a certain measure of it to be part of her every day routine. I think the more she fights it, the more they will stalk her to get inside. People always want to know secrets, the more you try to hide them, the more they want to know. The fewer photos of her private life she allows, the more valuable the ones available will become...... All things change. I'm sure she'll figure out how to handle it best and hopefully, it won't all drive her crazy. 8)

[tern]

I like the points people are making here. Back when she was just starting out it seemed like most pics we saw of her were official and were released by Mylene and Laurent for her. Now that she has become more secretive (especially in the last month) they have been all over her. It's one way to deal with the mags that leads to mental headaches rather than over-exposure headaches. Either way, it's gonna be annoying.

"within the next two years." ;)

let's hope for a year and a half!

[Ayan]

Whether there is a demand or not, this is still an invasion of privacy. When a famous person does not want to appear in a (random sleazy) magazine, then this is a decision worth respecting. Yet the paparazzis are not doing that. I'm saying, people who have a job as a paparazzi photographer, they lack ethics. If they cannot get a decent job, then so be it. But to call themselves "photojournalists" is an insult towards the real photojournalists, who take pics of things which are not harming anyone.
I agree that people are curious about the personal lives of others. So what? That should suddenly give them (whoever they may be) the right to sneak around and take pics of celebrities whenever they please? I think not!

Usually those, who become famous, they have done something worth mentioning. For example, they have given the audience great songs. They have worked hard to make music so that others could enjoy it. And is this what they get in return - they completly lose their personal private lives and secrets? I know there are not many laws to protect their personal lives, yet there should be. How would you feel if thousands, millions of people want to know every little bit of you. Daily. Year by year.
Everyone has a right to privacy.

[muppetyoda]

While I completely agree that everyone has a right to privacy, people who seek fame will inevetably have to accept everything that goes along with it - both the good and the bad.

The ethics of paparazzi as a job is an interesting point. Certainly some are more 'ethical' or perhaps less aggresive in their approch to the job than others. But a job is a job, and there is a demand for the photos they take, whether the celbrities like it or not.

I'm also not sure that all paparazzi's are the :evil: they're being made out to be. I don't want to defend them, because I agree that a numvber of them act in a manner which is deplorable, but I'd suggest there are a number of equal, if not worse, jobs around. It does raise the interesting point of what is a 'decent' job. Some jobs allow for more ethical considerations than others, and I'm not sure that you can define a jobs worth by it's employees 'ethics' - because then some 'decent' jobs could look pretty bad too.

food for thought - enjoying the discussion!

[Snatcher42]

When out in public, there really isn't this "right to privacy" that everyone is extolling. None of us have it. I mean, that's part of the distinction between a private and a public space. It's not like they're bugging her home.

When you step out the door in the morning, you are exposing yourself to a degree of public scrutiny. It would be dangerous to say where such a thing should start and stop (again, people could start claiming control over their image in situations like the one I outlined a few posts back). Moreover, no government would want to do that because they are usually the most active spys - the greatest paparazzi, if you will. In most modern cities, public spaces are monitored by surveillance. We have no control over what happens to our image, who sees it, or where it goes. Should being famous suddenly grant someone rights lacking to the rest of us? It's not that celebrities lose their right to privacy. Rather, their situation just shows us how little privacy everyone actually has. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's sometimes needed for a functional and safe society.

That's not to say a paparazzi's job is respectable. I'm certainly not defending it as such. Many are basically leeches that cross the line of moral behavior to get their pictures. They can even be dangerous too, so obviously they can't be permitted to run amuck without limitations. But to say they shouldn't be allowed to do it at all is walking on eggshells... There's no solution or answer: they'll continue as they have and must be allowed to, and celebrities like Alizée will keep reacting and counter-acting in the manner they see fit, as is their right.

[Snatcher42]

Well here's the capper. Know those pics that were not supposed to be printed, guys? You know, the ones we've only been talking about for the last several days? The ones bought up by Alizée? Know those? Yeah? Well Voici went ahead and printed them anyway. After all this discussion, I dunno if ya'll want me posting them on the forum, so I'll just link to the Alliance for now:

http://www.alizeealliance.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=5830

(I assume these are the same pics... I guess they could also be a new batch.)

Another varation on the name there: Annily. Jérémy and Alizée's parents are in some of the pics as well.

[Piece Of Paradise]

Oh well, guess Voici are going to get sued very soon.

[muppetyoda]

Hey Snatcher,

I doubt that anyone has an objection to you posting these things up here - for most of us that are so far away it's the only updates we get to see of her (not many copies of Voici at my local newsagents in rural Australia!). Besides, if people don't want to look at them, they don't have to!

I thought you made an excellent point about the celebrities highlighting just how little privacy the rest of us have...brilliant stuff, i'd never thought of it like that.

[DavidAlizée]

i can't see any law that voici broke? so how can they even get sued in this case. It is a public image of a celebe, who is out in public, and is not alone and making no attempt to hide the babys face.

I think the info we have been getting has been rubbish. Who said she bought the rights for them pics? who said these are even the same pics she bought the rights to?

Voici are not Stupid to print them after she has bought the rights to the pics, regardless of what you think about voici, they would NOT do it. So, these are infact new photos, she has not bought the rights to.

[Piece Of Paradise]

i can't see any law that voici broke? so how can they even get sued in this case. It is a public image of a celebe, who is out in public, and is not alone and making no attempt to hide the babys face.

I think the info we have been getting has been rubbish. Who said she bought the rights for them pics? who said these are even the same pics she bought the rights to?

Voici are not Stupid to print them after she has bought the rights to the pics, regardless of what you think about voici, they would NOT do it. So, these are infact new photos, she has not bought the rights to.

Hide the baby's face, like what Michael Jackson did? Come on. Maybe the info is right, but if it's true than Voici have a lot of explaining. And you have forgotten, that Voici were sued before by Alizée and Alizée won. So do you think Voici are a clever bunch of people?

[DavidAlizée]

well, when celebs sue, they would almost always win. The lawyers are not going to go to court if they didnt believe they could win. Im know her lawyers have sued before, and won. It doesnt matter, i am not even talking about the past. I am talking about these recent photos, for all we know.. she allowed or is not bothered about them getting took. Maybe yiou missunderstood about voici. I said the legal side is not stupid AKA ( They are not going to print photos when she has already bought the rights ). Maybe you are talking about the photographers.. then yes, they are stupid. Some of the photos they took, i could do a better job myself.

So, i wonder.. if you are all against voici printing them, why on earth put them on the Internet. If voici are going to get sued, then its just a matter of time before something else happens here. Lets hope she wanted the pics took, for everyones sake.

[muppetyoda]

I guess the issue here is if Alizee actually bought the rights to those photos - then Voici (or even potentially the photographer if he sold them again) broke the law.

I think the point about the quality of the info is a good one - we just don't know, but then again, that's why we're discussing it and the plethora of possibilites. Although we've discussed the voici breaking the law part more, I don't think any of us absolutely claim to know that Alizee bought any photos, or that these are indeed the photos in question as Snatcher pointed out.

...and we're not against voici printing them - as has been mentioned, any publicity tends to be good publicity and it's nice to see she's still making a front page!

We just hope she isn't being too pestered by the paparazzi, and have talked about a number of ways (either embracing, or sueing the pants off them) this can be dealt with.

[Jaycubed]

That is the issue, if Alizée bought the rights too the pics, then publishing them is against the law, Just like if a band does a song without asking the owner of the song's lyrics permission. Same thing basically.

I guess it's the old journalism ploy again, the amount they'll be sued for will be much less than what publishing those pics will generate, and it's not like this will tarnish their image, it couldn't really be tarnished more.

[DavidAlizée]

Bare in mind, thats IF and a big IF ahe bought the rights.. and IF these are the same pics she bught the rights to. There could be more photos, that we will not be seeing anytime soon, as she has already bought the rights.

[Snatcher42]

i can't see any law that voici broke?
if the celeb is out in public, any picture they manage to take is fair game. Especially in the USA there isn't much the subject can do after that. France does have some privacy laws to stop this sort of thing, and Alizée has used them to win those cases in the past.
By American standards, Voici hasn't broken any laws. But in France it's a little different. I don't know the exact letter of what's said, but apparently they have crossed some lines... Even regardless as to whether Alizée bought the rights to the pics or not.

Voici are not Stupid
I agree. Though that's not to say they won't knowingly break the law when sales from the magazine will be greater than any possible loss from a lawsuit. And they can also always print the ruling on their cover to sell even more mags that way. :)


BTW, can someone with better French skills tell us what this news from the French forum is?
Alizée fait decidement parler d elle ou plutot de sa tenue pour ses anciennes prestations tv pour J EN AI MARRE puisque TF1 a diffusée samedi dans son emission PODIUM un extrait de sa prestation pour ce titre dans " TUBE D UN JOUR , TUBE DE TOUJOURS" pour un mini document sur les tenues des stars !

[Moco]

BTW, can someone with better French skills tell us what this news from the French forum is?
Alizée fait decidement parler d elle ou plutot de sa tenue pour ses anciennes prestations tv pour J EN AI MARRE puisque TF1 a diffusée samedi dans son emission PODIUM un extrait de sa prestation pour ce titre dans " TUBE D UN JOUR , TUBE DE TOUJOURS" pour un mini document sur les tenues des stars !
It says that Alizée will talk about her stage outfits for J'en ai marre because on Saturday on the TF1 show Podium, they showed a clip of one of her JEAM performances from Tube d'un jour for a mini-documentary about some stars' outfits . But he doesn't say where or how she'll talk about it, so I don't know if this is going to be on TV sometime soon. Unless I'm not quite understanding, maybe someone else can help clarify.

[Snatcher42]

It says that Alizée will talk about her stage outfits for J'en ai marre because on Saturday on the TF1 show Podium, they showed a clip of one of her JEAM performances from Tube d'un jour for a mini-documentary about some stars' outfits . But he doesn't say where or how she'll talk about it, so I don't know if this is going to be on TV sometime soon. Unless I'm not quite understanding, maybe someone else can help clarify.
Thanks, that's exactly what I thought it said too, but figured the missing information was due to something I lost in translation.

[Backinblack]

A little clarification. "Alizée fait décidemment parler d'elle" = Alizée really makes people talk about her (because of the outfits she wears). During the TV show Podium, while Flavie the host was interviewing Renaud, they showed a short montage concerning different artists' stage outfits, and they showed a video of Alizée performing JEAM for a few seconds.

I bought the current issue of Voici (shame, shame, I know :oops: ); I couldn't pass up the chance to have new photos of Alizée and the baby :wub:. Voici couldn't care less if the stars sue them. Printing the legal rulings on the cover just shows that they mock those who try to seek justice.

[alizee4eva]

wow...its been a long time since ive logged in..

so wassup?...anythin new??...will there be a 3rd CD coming?

[Bondius]

Yes ... there will be a 3rd album launched (hopefully in the middle of 2006). We are all waiting for it :D

[gaston_alizee]

In the fench forum, some people told that the third album will leave in september 2005. Crossed fingers...

[Snatcher42]

Yeah, I read that too. Actually they said recording in September, release in November. Snowball's chance in hell I give that one. Even IF she enters the studio then (which I doubt), no way will it be ready anytime before the holidays.

[le grand d'or]

In the fench forum, some people told that the third album will leave in september 2005. Crossed finger...

...hm... :?

I heard that Alizée has choosed the new Songs for her Album.
But she record them later.

I don't know if it's true, i only heard it. ...but i hope :P

[edit]
It was niclos sirkis whose said it.
He said that, he wants to edit Alizées new Album after her pregnancy!!!!
But i think she needs now only a calm place to rest. She comes maybe after the summer back...
i prey :D

[tern]

I heard that Alizée has choosed the new Songs for her Album.
But she record them later.


O_o Sounds good to me!


It was niclos sirkis whose said it.


When I first heard he was going to have a part of the album I was worried but my respect for him has grown so much in the last few weeks and I am now excited about him working with Alizée.

[Snatcher42]

When I first heard he was going to have a part of the album I was worried but my respect for him has grown so much in the last few weeks and I am now excited about him working with Alizée.
Cool, I'm still a bit on the wire about Indochine. You sent me that Popstitute live vid which was cool. Any other recommendations?

[tern]

When I first heard he was going to have a part of the album I was worried but my respect for him has grown so much in the last few weeks and I am now excited about him working with Alizée.
Cool, I'm still a bit on the wire about Indochine. You sent me that Popstitute live vid which was cool. Any other recommendations?

Yeah I may move the other French artists folder to a different place but I'd recommend the Mao Boy, Le Grand Secret, and J'ai Demandé Á La Lune music videos too. I've found that they make great original music.

[Snatcher42]

Cool, thanks. I've seen the second two... and of course heard all three... so I'll have to get ahold of the Mao Boy video.

[The Mighty Atom]

In the fench forum, some people told that the third album will leave in september 2005. Crossed fingers...


HAH! Yeah right, if thats true, we should've heard more about it, don't we?

[le grand d'or]

In the fench forum, some people told that the third album will leave in september 2005. Crossed fingers...


HAH! Yeah right, if thats true, we should've heard more about it, don't we?

I don't think september, but on the end of the year!!
she has now her Baby and she needs time.
She begin slowly with her comeback..

[Ask For More]

i thought it was 2006? But i still hope 2005 :cheesy:

[DavidAlizée]

haha.. 2005 ? don't make me laugh, yet i see more stupid info here....i thought she already said she may be back at the back end of 2006! why must these people make up such rubbish!!!!

seems like this french forum and even the alliance is becoming very unreliable. Its kinda like voici.. If Voici posted that kinda junk, they would probably be getting sued again right about now

[le grand d'or]

I said end of 2005 and that she comes slowly back.
She comes back with performances like "Ella Elle l'a" or in "les enfoires"...

... i hope :oops:

[Bondius]

Lol well I hope too but I'm not counting on that ... i think probably by the middle of 2006 she will be back ... I hope :oops:

[slickis]

i just hope she comes back. i'm prepared to wait a few extra months/years whatever. i'll be here.

[Snatcher42]

My money's still on Summer 2006! :)

[Steve]

I hope she makes a return when im over in Europe!! that would top it off!!

[le grand d'or]

My money's still on Summer 2006! :)

At summer 2006 she's already back! I'm very sure about it!!!

I think She starts her come back with performances like "Ella Elle l'a"
or with an invitation in a Talkshow or with "les enfoires" ....
She comes back soon, i feel it!
now she wants to be by the side of her Baby, she will be by her parents
and she wants to savor her life as Mother. But not for all time,
anyday she feels 'the Thing' in her blood. She begins to sing and dance at home,
she sings in front of or with friends and then.... she want to come back! :oops:

[PayBays]

sweet!I hope she returns soon!She's the perfect French singer/girl i ever seen!
I hope the baby will grow up quick,maybe she's gonna sing to! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Snatcher42]

Moi Lolita is now the #1 top grossing French song of all time, according to the SACEM ratings.
http://www.alizeealliance.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=5880

[UK Fan 2003]

Wow....#1 of all time that's brilliant stuff !! Go Moi...Lolita !!! :wink:

[Max4X]

I have a question. Is that true that Mylen Farmer searched, for 15 years, a singer who would sing her song Moi...Lolita? I heard it in video Moi...Lolita World Music Awards in Monte Carlo. Television announcer said that.

[Snatcher42]

You probably mis-heard that just a little: she didn't search for 15 years. She searched for a singer who was 15 years old.

[le grand d'or]

You probably mis-heard that just a little: she didn't search for 15 years. She searched for a singer who was 15 years old.

..and Alizée was the one, wich sing the song :oops:


@"The 1 of all time"
...oh yes.... the forum is only for members... :roll:
But it's really nice and... moi Lolita is still her BEST song!!!
Her carrer began with it and... at her concert was the cheering after and during this song the most!
this song derserves it!

Alizée, you are the best! :wub: :bounce:


..hm.... she got all awards... and... she had a family, she's popular... she maked many concerts...
I would be a good end... ....but not and never of her career!
But maybe for years? ... i don't know... it can be! If it's, then i can live with it!
....but for me and for us was it better, if she comes back soon! :P

[Greenie]

Alizée, you are the best!
indeed ^^

[tern]

Alizée is for sure #1 for me, and now for everyone else too. Congrats Lili!

[Snatcher42]

As you know, there are many rumors floating around the French forums these days, so here's just a quick digest of those that seems most reliable, coming from www.nidalizee.com and rozier/seb (who is known to sometimes speak to a member of the Jacotey family):

- Alizée & Nicola Sirkis of Indochine have worked out an good contract with Polydor. Sirkis has been working to develop the new "sound" for Alizée's third album, and has been sending samples and tests to Alizée for several months.

- It seems likely that Alizée will enter the studio to start recording the album with Sirkis sometime around September. Some rumors said the album would then be ready for a November release, but that really sounds insane - it should still be on track for a 2006 release as always expected.

- A collaboration between Alizée and Jérémy is looking more likely, and is rumored to be one of the reasons delaying Jérémy's second album (another reason thought to be that Universal feels sales might be better later in the year).

[Bondius]

Awesome... although the "Nov 2005" stuff is way too absurde (c'mon, I can't belive in 1 month she will finish it)

[Snatcher42]

Yeah, I bet that rumor started by someone saying, "she'll enter the studio between September and November" -- I.E. sometime in that window is when she will start recording the album. But someone misinterpreted that to mean she'd enter in September and be done in November.

Actually, conceivably you could record an album in that amount of time - it doesn't take TOO long... but then there are all the auxiliary things that need to be done in preparation of release: photo shootings, publicity, etc... that is at least a 4-6 month process.

As always, these are all just rumors, but personally from them I belive this: Sirkis will be the main creative force on the third album, which will begin recording between September and November, and will be released sometime in 2006. ;)

[tern]

Wasn't Gourmandises cranked out in less than two months after the release of Moi... Lolita? It's possible, but there's really no rush this time around. I'm getting more excited about Indochine collaboration with each passing day because of my recent listening binge. :mrgreen:

[Snatcher42]

Closer to 5 months: July 4th --> Nov 28th. Ternuc, do you have any favorite Indo songs that are not from the Paradize album? Could you share them? I think I recall you mentioning a "Miss Paramount" in favs of the day. What album is that from?

[Zeka]

I agree with you Snatcher on everything (about the rumors and speculations on the previous page).That is the most probable outcome of events.
And bravo for "Moi...Lolita"!!! :thumbup: :D :mrgreen: :bounce:
Definetely number one of all times for me!!!

[kris]

rozier/seb (who is known to sometimes speak to a member of the Jacotey family):

I've never realized we have such a plant, so close to Alizee.
That's very good news, it cheered me up.

I bet that rumor started by someone saying, "she'll enter the studio between September and November" -- I.E. sometime in that window is when she will start recording the album. But someone misinterpreted that to mean she'd enter in September and be done in November.

You must be wright, although third album in November would be a great pre-Christmas gift ;). I hope she'll do her best and I'll be able to listen to new album in spring to relax before school-leaving examinations(correct phrase ?)(in Polish-matura)

[Backinblack]

Moi Lolita is now the #1 top grossing French song of all time, according to the SACEM ratings.
http://www.alizeealliance.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=5880
Just a little correction, sorry to disappoint anyone :( , but it's not of all time. It was the #1 most widely exported French song in terms of money earned from royalties for the year 2004, based on its distribution in 2002/2003. Last year it ranked #2 behind "Comme d'habitude." This year "Désenchantée" made it to #7. I think it's a testament to the talent of the Farmer/Boutonnat team that two of their songs are on the top 10 list of most exported French songs in the world.

[gaston_alizee]

Oh nooooo! [Message too short.]

[Bondius]

Moi Lolita is now the #1 top grossing French song of all time, according to the SACEM ratings.
http://www.alizeealliance.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=5880
Just a little correction, sorry to disappoint anyone :( , but it's not of all time. It was the #1 most widely exported French song in terms of money earned from royalties for the year 2004, based on its distribution in 2002/2003. Last year it ranked #2 behind "Comme d'habitude." This year "Désenchantée" made it to #7. I think it's a testament to the talent of the Farmer/Boutonnat team that two of their songs are on the top 10 list of most exported French songs in the world.

Yea, I had a hunch on that <_< too good to be true

[Snatcher42]

Ah, heh, thanks BiB. Sorry about that, I actually had trouble translating that article myself, so I waited to check with a French speaker before mentioning it: "So whats that article saying? that SACEM ranked moi lolita as #1 money making french song of all time?" "Yes." :frown:

[le grand d'or]

...too bad... :?
But it's even so a good sign for Alizée, because she was it why the single was so often sold.

[tern]

Closer to 5 months: July 4th --> Nov 28th. Ternuc, do you have any favorite Indo songs that are not from the Paradize album? Could you share them? I think I recall you mentioning a "Miss Paramount" in favs of the day. What album is that from?

K, thanks for the info.

I like Miss Paramount (excellent guitar riffs), Electrastar (maybe it's from Paradize, dunno), trois nuits par semaine, l'adventurer and I'm not sure about the ballads, haven't had time to differentiate between them. Paradize (the song) doesn't really impress me though. all of these are from 3.6.3, their live album. I guess its a good sign that I like their sound from the most recent album most. Also, Drugstore is kinda a weird song, but i like the vid. :P

[Ayan]

- A collaboration between Alizée and Jérémy is looking more likely, and is rumored to be one of the reasons delaying Jérémy's second album.When Alizée will be singing something (if even background vocals), then I think I will start buying Jérémy's CD-s aswell. :wink: Granted, it might not be TOO likely for Alizée to be present on J's album, but still.

Just a little correction, sorry to disappoint anyone Sad , but it's not of all time. It was the #1 most widely exported French song in terms of money earned from royalties for the year 2004No disapointment here. That's so great actually. To be #1 in such a scale. An honor to all those involved.

[Backinblack]

Earlier today on the game show "Tout vu tout lu", there was a question concerning Alizée, asking for the region where she was born. The host also mentioned that she had a 2-month-old daughter named Anny-Lee. The contestant responded with "PACA" (Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur). :? Quick, 10 points for the first person who answers which département (not région) she was born in. (Sean, you can't buzz in on this one :P ).

Also apparently Alizée, Jérémy, and the baby spent some time at Disneyland Paris a few days ago, seen by someone (not a fan) who knows one of the Alliance members.

[Bondius]

I have no clue ... all I know is that she was born in Ajaccio :cheesy:
Hmm ... Disneyland Paris, right? I gotta change my plans for the summer 8)

[bohemian72]

Earlier today on the game show "Tout vu tout lu", there was a question concerning Alizée, asking for the region where she was born. The host also mentioned that she had a 2-month-old daughter named Anny-Lee. The contestant responded with "PACA" (Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur). :? Quick, 10 points for the first person who answers which département (not région) she was born in. (Sean, you can't buzz in on this one :P ).


Corse-du-sud?

[le grand d'or]

I have no clue ... all I know is that she was born in Ajaccio :cheesy:
Hmm ... Disneyland Paris, right? I gotta change my plans for the summer 8)

She was in Disneyland???

She tried to hide herself against the Papparazzi, but she went with a two Months old girl to Disneyland???
I can't believe :roll:

[Bondius]

Well, maybe Anny likes the rollercoaster :cheesy:

[bohemian72]

I went with my four-month old son to DisneyWorld. Believe me, they are SO much easier to manage then say a two year old. A new baby in the firstyear isn't going to run away. They're light enough to carry easily and while I can't speak for Disneyland Paris, but in WDW, they have very nice facilities for dealing with little babies (nursing rooms etc) and you can do a child switch, where one parent will ride the ride while the other holds the baby, and then they switch.

[PayBays]

that's awesome.It's nice that some parks like WDW have facilities for babys

[le grand d'or]

I went with my four-month old son to DisneyWorld. Believe me, they are SO much easier to manage then say a two year old. A new baby in the firstyear isn't going to run away. They're light enough to carry easily and while I can't speak for Disneyland Paris, but in WDW, they have very nice facilities for dealing with little babies (nursing rooms etc) and you can do a child switch, where one parent will ride the ride while the other holds the baby, and then they switch.

This i meaned...
A Baby can do nothing in Disneyland... :roll:
It can be that Alizée want to go with her to Disneyland, but not when she's 2Month old!!
and if she was really in Disneyland, then we have to receive some pics soon...

I think it's quite lie!! I think she's still on Corsica... with Anny, her parents and maybe Jérémy .

[bohemian72]

I knew my four month old wouldn't get a lot out of Walt DisneyWorld. Why did I go? Because I like the place. It's been a while since I've been but I love the Disney Parks. If an old codger like me can still have fun at a Disney Park, a couple young-ens like Alizee and Jeremy can certainly enjoy themselves there. The baby would come because the parents went.

[le grand d'or]

I knew my four month old wouldn't get a lot out of Walt DisneyWorld. Why did I go? Because I like the place. It's been a while since I've been but I love the Disney Parks. If an old codger like me can still have fun at a Disney Park, a couple young-ens like Alizee and Jeremy can certainly enjoy themselves there. The baby would come because the parents went.

Ok.... If Papparazzis hunts you, because you are a Star,
your husband is a Star too and nobody has a good photo of your baby...
... ...it isn't a good decision to go to Disneyworld in this time.

She know it. So it's a lie!

[Backinblack]

Alizée and Jérémy have been to Disneyland Paris multiple times, it shouldn't be surprising for them to go there. And there are plenty of parents who bring infants to the park.

If they let the paparazzi control their life, they wouldn't be out in public like that. Who knows, maybe we'll see them again in Voici next week.

[le grand d'or]

Alizée and Jérémy have been to Disneyland Paris multiple times, it shouldn't be surprising for them to go there. And there are plenty of parents who bring infants to the park.

If they let the paparazzi control their life, they wouldn't be out in public like that. Who knows, maybe we'll see them again in Voici next week.

Ok, i'll wait :wink:

But why you know that they was multiple times in Disneyland?
...if it's true, anyone must have Photos!

[Backinblack]

Earlier today on the game show "Tout vu tout lu", there was a question concerning Alizée, asking for the region where she was born. The host also mentioned that she had a 2-month-old daughter named Anny-Lee. The contestant responded with "PACA" (Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur). :? Quick, 10 points for the first person who answers which département (not région) she was born in. (Sean, you can't buzz in on this one :P ).


Corse-du-sud?

Bravo! You won! You've earned 10 Forum Points*.

http://www.alizee-forum.com/galerie/data/media/8/inne60.jpg





*Forum Points don't really mean anything. Man, I need to get more sleep.

[PayBays]

Alizée and Jérémy have been to Disneyland Paris multiple times, it shouldn't be surprising for them to go there. And there are plenty of parents who bring infants to the park.

If they let the paparazzi control their life, they wouldn't be out in public like that. Who knows, maybe we'll see them again in Voici next week.

Right as right means turning not left...If they would let their life control by the press,then she didn't showed up on the streets with her child.It's stupid if she would hide herself from press and from us.She knows we're here and she knows we're waiting for her baby.It would be stupid if she would lock herself up till the child is 7.

[Backinblack]

Alizée and Jérémy have been to Disneyland Paris multiple times, it shouldn't be surprising for them to go there. And there are plenty of parents who bring infants to the park.

If they let the paparazzi control their life, they wouldn't be out in public like that. Who knows, maybe we'll see them again in Voici next week.

Ok, i'll wait :wink:

But why you know that they was multiple times in Disneyland?
...if it's true, anyone must have Photos!

Because I've seen people talk about it on the forums. Some people might have taken photos, but they've kept them private. Maybe the Disneyland resort crew keep on the lookout for paparazzi.

[PayBays]

i don't know what happened,but i never ever thought about a baby his head and now,suddenly one is sticking in my head.Did Alizée used paranormal activity?

[le grand d'or]

Alizée and Jérémy have been to Disneyland Paris multiple times, it shouldn't be surprising for them to go there. And there are plenty of parents who bring infants to the park.

If they let the paparazzi control their life, they wouldn't be out in public like that. Who knows, maybe we'll see them again in Voici next week.

Ok, i'll wait :wink:

But why you know that they was multiple times in Disneyland?
...if it's true, anyone must have Photos!

Because I've seen people talk about it on the forums. Some people might have taken photos, but they've kept them private. Maybe the Disneyland resort crew keep on the lookout for paparazzi.

Maybe... :roll:
In Wich Forum was it? How Many People said that they saw her?
It's maybe true, but also it can be a rumor of a fan....
Whatever! I hope we can see her in any magazine next time :wink:

[Backinblack]

Usually it's someone who's not really a fan of her, who mentioned it to a French fan from the Alliance forum. Some people see her shopping in the department stores from time to time too. No reason for the non-fans to make up a story saying they saw Alizée when they wouldn't really care if they saw her. If I saw Lorie, for example, I might mention it to someone who was a fan of her (yes, there are some of them still out there :P ), but I wouldn't invent a story out of the blue saying that I saw her.

[le grand d'or]

Usually it's someone who's not really a fan of her, who mentioned it to a French fan from the Alliance forum. Some people see her shopping in the department stores from time to time too. No reason for the non-fans to make up a story saying they saw Alizée when they wouldn't really care if they saw her. If I saw Lorie, for example, I might mention it to someone who was a fan of her (yes, there are some of them still out there :P ), but I wouldn't invent a story out of the blue saying that I saw her.

When was it, as they saw her?? during her pregnancy? After, or before? :shock:

Alizée seems really to be free in Paris! :P
I want to know in wich quarter she lives!!
Then i'm every Day in all stores to search her :cheesy:

It's amazing. Just amazing :wink:

[bohemian72]

Besides, many celebrities go to Disney Parks. Disney knows how to help you take care of your baby, I'm sure they know how to help celebrities enjoy their stay. I saw Whoopie Goldberg at WDW once. We would have got a picture, except my crazy mother-in-law screamed "OH MY GOD! It's WHOOPIE GOLDBERG!" thus drawing the attention of Whoopie's whole posse who said "no pictures!" We did get the back of her head. ;-)

[Backinblack]

Usually it's someone who's not really a fan of her, who mentioned it to a French fan from the Alliance forum. Some people see her shopping in the department stores from time to time too. No reason for the non-fans to make up a story saying they saw Alizée when they wouldn't really care if they saw her. If I saw Lorie, for example, I might mention it to someone who was a fan of her (yes, there are some of them still out there :P ), but I wouldn't invent a story out of the blue saying that I saw her.

When was it, as they saw her?? during her pregnancy? After, or before? :shock:

Alizée seems really to be free in Paris! :P
I want to know in wich quarter she lives!!
Then i'm every Day in all stores to search her :cheesy:

It's amazing. Just amazing :wink:

Man, you're just full of questions. :wink:

Apparently she likes to shop in the big department stores. There's always so many people in that neighborhood, it'd be easy for her to slip in and out of the crowd relatively unnoticed, especially for someone her size, if she was just wearing casual clothes. Since I arrived in Paris, I've walked down by that area from time to time, since the Fnac store closest to me is in that area, and I keep an eye out for her, but I wouldn't loiter around trying to spot her.

[le grand d'or]

Besides, many celebrities go to Disney Parks. Disney knows how to help you take care of your baby, I'm sure they know how to help celebrities enjoy their stay. I saw Whoopie Goldberg at WDW once. We would have got a picture, except my crazy mother-in-law screamed "OH MY GOD! It's WHOOPIE GOLDBERG!" thus drawing the attention of Whoopie's whole posse who said "no pictures!" We did get the back of her head. ;-)

You means DisneyWorld in amercia, but Disneyland in Paris is another thing...
But if it's true, we should go to Disneyland :cheesy:

...but i still think, that's not good for Alizée that she goes to Disneyland,
because of this i still think it's a lie. Whoopie Goldberg is a Star, but she was often seen in the public.
She hadn't made a secret marriage in LasVegas and she hadn't a child of an other singer...
It's with Alizée other. The press is very interested of her life and she can't go to Disneyworld without a pressphoto.
And when many Stars go to Disneywold, i would stay in it as a papparazzi!

Alizée with Jérémy and her doughter couldn't be hided in Disneyworld,
if they were there, any Pressman saw they surely!! And Alizée knows,
that the press do all for a Photo of her Baby! The last article is already old
and the public wants to know what happens next in her life and a visit in Disneyworld would be a great story for voici!
She know this too, so she also knows that she can't go now to it!!!
After her Comeback surely, or short before*, but not now!

(*rumors said that's in september)

@BIB
In a big department store is it easy to hide myself, yes.
But Disneyland isn't a department store :wink:
You must be a lucky man, you live in the same town like Alizée :oops:

[PayBays]

Usually it's someone who's not really a fan of her, who mentioned it to a French fan from the Alliance forum. Some people see her shopping in the department stores from time to time too. No reason for the non-fans to make up a story saying they saw Alizée when they wouldn't really care if they saw her. If I saw Lorie, for example, I might mention it to someone who was a fan of her (yes, there are some of them still out there :P ), but I wouldn't invent a story out of the blue saying that I saw her.

When was it, as they saw her?? during her pregnancy? After, or before? :shock:

Alizée seems really to be free in Paris! :P
I want to know in wich quarter she lives!!
Then i'm every Day in all stores to search her :cheesy:

It's amazing. Just amazing :wink:

Man, you're just full of questions. :wink:

Apparently she likes to shop in the big department stores. There's always so many people in that neighborhood, it'd be easy for her to slip in and out of the crowd relatively unnoticed, especially for someone her size, if she was just wearing casual clothes. Since I arrived in Paris, I've walked down by that area from time to time, since the Fnac store closest to me is in that area, and I keep an eye out for her, but I wouldn't loiter around trying to spot her.

I hate you :cry: :cry: :cry:

you're so lucky living in Paris.

[le bear]

I'm sure if she was there, pictures will be available somewhere soon. Good for her! She should enjoy her life. I'm happy that she got to go. Has anyone ever been to the Paris Disney Land and the USA Florida one? I hear they are the same, sort of anyway.

[bohemian72]

I'm sure if she was there, pictures will be available somewhere soon. Good for her! She should enjoy her life. I'm happy that she got to go. Has anyone ever been to the Paris Disney Land and the USA Florida one? I hear they are the same, sort of anyway.

While I haven't been to both, I was married into a family that was Disney nuts (My ex-wife's aunt has been to Disneyland, Walt Disney World, Disnyland Paris, and Disneyland Tokyo) and it kind of rubbed off so I'm aware of some of the differences.
For one, the castle in Paris is a much more fantasy type castle than the one in Florida. The reason for this is simple, why build a quasi-realistic looking castle in Europe, when there are so many real ones around.
There is also supposed to be considerable areas of the park under cover, due to the greater frequency of rain outside Paris than Orlando or Anaheim.
Other than that, I wouldn't be surprised if many things were similar.

[le bear]

Thank you for the information. Didn't mean to go off topic but I figured there'd be a good chance that someone here would have been to both and would know the differences......

Take care!

[tern]

I just think it's sad that Disneyland is the biggest tourist attraction in Europe. It pretty much disgusts me. Oh well, hope they had fun.

[PayBays]

bohemian72,

wonderfull signature.I would vote for the 1st one.

[Zeka]

I don't see any reason why Alizee wouldn't go to Disneyland! If She wants to go,then I hope She goes and has fun.That is very nice place and excellent amusement park.

Also I don't understand why people think it is a lie.As mentioned above,She is a celebrity,but She has right to live Her own life and enjoy it as much as possible,not to hide from papparazzies.And I think it is an excellent place for a baby.There they can have fun and little angel can get all the necessary love,care and fun.Also she can see a lot of beautiful and new things.That must be interesting.In fact,I believe experts (doctors,socialsts,psychologists...) would recommend that babies should change their environement from time to time.I know I would go every month if I was there,in Paris :cheesy: .

Like someone said-the best way to disappear is to go to the most crowded and visited places.I hope they had fun there.

[le grand d'or]

I don't see any reason why Alizee wouldn't go to Disneyland! If She wants to go,then I hope She goes and has fun.That is very nice place and excellent amusement park.

Also I don't understand why people think it is a lie.As mentioned above,She is a celebrity,but She has right to live Her own life and enjoy it as much as possible,not to hide from papparazzies.And I think it is an excellent place for a baby.There they can have fun and little angel can get all the necessary love,care and fun.Also she can see a lot of beautiful and new things.That must be interesting.In fact,I believe experts (doctors,socialsts,psychologists...) would recommend that babies should change their environement from time to time.I know I would go every month if I was there,in Paris :cheesy: .

Like someone said-the best way to disappear is to go to the most crowded and visited places.I hope they had fun there.

... a 2 Month old Baby can't see like a older child. It can only sleep,eat or fart ...
Alizée was maybe there, but i hope anyone took photos :P ´
She has her own life and she should enjoy, it know, but i "study" her character
and i think she knows that it wasn't a good idea to go with the complete Family to Disneyland...
It can be or not.. she could be still on Corsica.. or in Paris... nobody knows....

I hope only she's lucky in her life (she is it!) and that we can see her soon! :wink:

[gaston_alizee]

Also apparently Alizée, Jérémy, and the baby spent some time at Disneyland Paris a few days ago, seen by someone (not a fan) who knows one of the Alliance members.
It's a pity! I'm going to DisneyLand on Monday!!!

[mot]

Wasn't it raining in France then? Heard they had some pretty bad storms!

[ArlettyFan]

Wasn't it raining in France then? Heard they had some pretty bad storms!

Bah Alizée hates the rain! :oops:

[le grand d'or]

Wasn't it raining in France then? Heard they had some pretty bad storms!

Bah Alizée hates the rain! :oops:
It was a nice weather in europe in the last weeks :wink:

Ok, this and last week was a little rainy... but... it's no matter, i still it's a lie! :cheesy:

[Snatcher42]

Wow, we have to scrutinize every little thing we hear about her life so much? Well ok my 2cents: I think it makes a lot of sense to go to Disneyland. Alizée and Jérémy don’t want to sit at home all day, and Disney’s the perfect place to get out and have some fun while specifically avoiding the press and paparazzi. The park keeps those kinds of people out. What we were saying in the other thread about photographers’ rights out in public disappears once inside Disneyland, because the entire place is private property. Even if someone did manage to sneak in and take some pics, they’d face tons of red tape getting those things published (legally, it's pretty much akin to waltzing into someone's home and taking pictures there!).

[ArlettyFan]

Not only that, but it seems like just the place for Alizée, are you forgetting Tinkerbell?

What about
http://img47.echo.cx/img47/3899/006963tc.jpg

or
http://img47.echo.cx/img47/5310/001853lx.jpg

[Ramon_Morales_Jr]

hey jango i love that pic 8) 8) 8) 8)

[PayBays]

Wonderfull picutre that first one....awesome :wub:

[bohemian72]

Wow, we have to scrutinize every little thing we hear about her life so much? Well ok my 2cents: I think it makes a lot of sense to go to Disneyland. Alizée and Jérémy don’t want to sit at home all day, and Disney’s the perfect place to get out and have some fun while specifically avoiding the press and paparazzi. The park keeps those kinds of people out. What we were saying in the other thread about photographers’ rights out in public disappears once inside Disneyland, because the entire place is private property. Even if someone did manage to sneak in and take some pics, they’d face tons of red tape getting those things published (legally, it's pretty much akin to waltzing into someone's home and taking pictures there!).

Excellent point. One I kept trying to get around to making, but it kept eluding me. :wink:

[Bondius]

OMG That pic is soooooo sweet :wub: I LOVE IT!

[le grand d'or]

Wow, we have to scrutinize every little thing we hear about her life so much? Well ok my 2cents: I think it makes a lot of sense to go to Disneyland. Alizée and Jérémy don’t want to sit at home all day, and Disney’s the perfect place to get out and have some fun while specifically avoiding the press and paparazzi. The park keeps those kinds of people out. What we were saying in the other thread about photographers’ rights out in public disappears once inside Disneyland, because the entire place is private property. Even if someone did manage to sneak in and take some pics, they’d face tons of red tape getting those things published (legally, it's pretty much akin to waltzing into someone's home and taking pictures there!).

i accept... :wink:

But i hope that anyone of the Papparazzi can publish some pics :wink:

[ArlettyFan]

They can shoot from outside the park limits with a telephoto, it's like when they shoot through your windows. I wouldn't wish that to upon her... I don't see to much reason to want Alizée at Disneyland pics, ...pics are the best when they are meant to be taken.

[le grand d'or]

They can shoot from outside the park limits with a telephoto, it's like when they shoot through your windows. I wouldn't wish that to upon her... I don't see to much reason to want Alizée at Disneyland pics, ..