Bi The Way...

[Melodramatic]

Very interesting that we've dipped our feet with transexual issues, and gay & lesbian issues. A pal of mine recently had some pretty steamy convos w/ the mods over at MFI that really got my attention, so I thought bringing the issues of bisexuality here for discussion would be interesting for I assume everyone here are for the most part heteros. What are your thoughts on bisexuality, bisexual women, bisexual men? Any friends you know that belong in the category? Your personal experiences? Share your insights and thoughts on the matter. Is it strange, wrong or right? Share share share!

[IronRodent]

I don't believe in it. Either you're gay or you're not. There's no in between just like there's no asexuality (human), having no attraction for either sex...or is there? But I think then it becomes not a form of sexuality but some other psychological...aberration.

[Z3R0]

i think they are greedy :mrgreen:

[Melodramatic]

I don't believe in it. Either you're gay or you're not. There's no in between just like there's no asexuality (human), having no attraction for either sex...or is there? But I think then it becomes not a form of sexuality but some other psychological...aberration.

So you don't believe that a person can be in a committed relationship but is still capable of feeling an attraction towards the same sex but doesn't act on it for the sake of maintaining a relationship?

i think they are greedy
Because they can swing to & fro?

famous bi celebs:
-Angelina Jolie
-David Bowie
-Kurt Cobain

[loveherfromusa]

Basically I think that it is none of my business. Why should I care what consenting adults do with each other?

Once I had a gay guy ask me if I wanted to "help" him and I had a prostitute grab my ass (not on the same night or during the same year) and ask if we could go somewhere. Both were unwelcome. If people say they are bi-, what do you care if they are fooling themselves?

The couple living next to us is a lesbian couple who got married during the little time it was legal here. They have two kids, one adopted from China and one born to one of them. My problems with them are the same as with any neighbor. I wish they would clean up the crap they leave around after a project faster than they do.

Their gender identities are none of my business. Why do you care?

[Melodramatic]

Once I had a gay guy ask me if I wanted to "help" him and I had a prostitute grab my ass (not on the same night or during the same year) and ask if we could go somewhere. Both were unwelcome. If people say they are bi-, what do you care if they are fooling themselves?

:shock: Was the prostitute a woman?

The couple living next to us is a lesbian couple who got married during the little time it was legal here.

I didn't know Oregon allowed even a short amount of time for gay marriage.

[Sirené]

Um.. well, I am bisexual, and I have many friends who are either bisexual, gay, or lesbian, so obviously, I don't have a problem with it. ^^;

[jaxpot]

I worked with a lot of gay people. I don't mind them really because they don't try to hit on me or act gay. And that way it saves more girls for me.

[loff]

aslong as they don't expect me to be a part of it, i got no problems with others being bisuxual/gay/whatever

[Kensei]

Loff's got it right "aslong as they don't expect me to be a part of it, i got no problems with others being bisuxual/gay/whatever"

[Monty Burns]

I have no problems with lesbians. We have a lot in common.

:rasta:

[Melodramatic]

the butchy ones I assume.

[britkit]

I am happy to admit that I am openly Bisexual. I think it's normal for all women to have these thoughts becuase everyone of them I have asked about it openly admitted to it except for one girl... she said she forced those thoughts out of her head for her religion... I will respect her for that... but I believe in doing what I feel is natural... and as for that manly thought about women being gay... I am in no way humanly possible like a man... I find it disgusting when women choose to be manly... I myself am a practicing old world women.. the type who prefers skirts and corsets and to be very girly when it comes to hair and make up.. lol, soon as its not so fucking cold I'll start wearing skirts again..damn cold weather!

[Damian K]

I dont understand this. Can somebody explain this to me HONESTLY. Is there realy love there, I mean, there are a lot of forms of love, couldnt you just be best of friends. Im having trouble explaining my thoughts, because I think woman are naturally closer to each other than man, but I could never say I LOVE YOU to a man the way I would say to a woman. The only time I would say that to a man would be if I was making fun of him or if he saved my life in a great battle somewhere.

[Damian K]

Also, I would like to add, I noticed as I was reading this page, and from what I heard othe people say that "you are either gay or you are not". Here is what I think, being gay or lesbian is just one of many problems people encounter during their lives, a lot of people just decided not to do anything about it.

[Damian K]

And this, my friends is why there is so much chaos. People dont just want to be labeled gay or lesbian, so thay say Im bisexual. Next thing you know, the woman you think you love, is doing your cousin, because she used to want to be a lesbian. Its a joke, how are you suppose to build a relation ship with your woman, when she runs of to her girlfriend everytime you have a dissagreement, or fight.

[britkit]

Sexuality should have absolutly nothing to do with your marital staus..if you and your gf are arguing and she runs off to her gf then that is her personal problem and issue... she can't remain monowhatever..my english is not that great when it comes to spelling.. if she is an honest women who believes in loving one person at a time then it is not her sexuality.. she could be straight and still run off to your cousin.. if he is a guy too... so dont blame problems on the sexuality of a person..blame it on their beliefs and faulty practices

[britkit]

I don't understand completly etheir being that i am not a man.. but i can understand...with women its like we have a depp knowledge and open acceptance of each other... we know what we want.. we find eachother attaractive and take car eo feachother.. most men dont see what it is to be awomen and what makes us who we are... women are beautiful creatures..no matte rho wmuch you argue the issue it will still remain evidently clear..men can be handsome..but women are captive in their art of beauty and it feel snatural to like one another.. for a man i can see where this is an issue.. anal does not seem as natural... i dunno..my theory is do what you wan tto in life that feel sright to you not to someone else

[Damian K]

Hey did you notice, I joined 2 days after you.


Sexuality should have absolutly nothing to do with your marital staus

Anyways, I think your sexuality has everything to do with your marital status. Being married presents anough problems as it is, this just makes it more complicated.
if you and your gf are arguing and she runs off to her gf then that is her personal problem and issue


she could be straight and still run off to your cousin

Ok, but your cousing is not going to solve your problems, if for example your boyfriend is being a stupid prick, than why not just dump him.
if she is an honest women who believes in loving one person at a time then it is not her sexuality

There is nothing with a woman feeling attracted to another woman, just like there in nothing wrong with a man feeling attracted to antogher woman if he has a wife or girlfriend, but there is something wrong with not being able to control those feelings. You are not only hurting yourself, you are hurting the person who loves you.

.my theory is do what you wan tto in life that feel sright to you not to someone else

Dont you think this is kind of selfish. If you really love somebody, and they really love you, than you dont have to worry about what is good for you, because they will take care of you, just like you want to take care of them.
Please dont get upset, I dont want to hurt your feelings or anything like that. I like this discussion, I might learn something from you.

[britkit]

if you don't love the man..then your relationship with him is not right and should not continue if that is how you truly feel.. thats what i'm saying...you should not stay in a relationship where all there is is trouble and cheating..thats not normal to me.. i personally would leave that situation... but..someone else might stay around and give more chances if that is what they feel is right.. its not selfish.l.. if you do nothin gbut what others feel is right for you..then you ar eletting others rule your life

[Melodramatic]

I don't understand completly etheir being that i am not a man.. but i can understand...with women its like we have a depp knowledge and open acceptance of each other... we know what we want.. we find eachother attaractive and take car eo feachother.. most men dont see what it is to be awomen and what makes us who we are... women are beautiful creatures..no matte rho wmuch you argue the issue it will still remain evidently clear..men can be handsome..but women are captive in their art of beauty and it feel snatural to like one another.. for a man i can see where this is an issue.. anal does not seem as natural... i dunno..my theory is do what you wan tto in life that feel sright to you not to someone else

Women are just kinkier than men. It's a backlash to the olden days. :lol:

Anyways, I think your sexuality has everything to do with your marital status. Being married presents anough problems as it is, this just makes it more complicated.

It does but it doesn't end there, nor will it matter what's between their legs. So if you've got a spouse & she's bi... you had better step it up 'cause you're up against 2 genders.

[Sirené]

Hm.. well, I don't find it disgusting when women choose to be manly. Some women are simply more masculine than others, and it feels more natural for them to behave 'manly' than to try and conform to how society expects them to be. I have known a few women like that. I'm personally a bit more like you, britkit... I'm very feminine. I prefer skirts and dresses to pants, I love shopping, I enjoy fashion and collecting cosmetics. ^^; But I certainly don't expect every woman to be interested in those things. It just doesn't matter.

Damian K - Yes, of course it's possible for people of the same gender to just be close friends. Just because two women or two men have a close relationship doesn't necessarily have to indicate that there are romantic feelings involved. I don't really understand how this is hard to understand.. but then again, I'm not straight. But it doesn't need to be made any more complicated than it is. Some people are romantically/sexually interested in the same gender. Some people aren't. I didn't know I was bisexual until I realized in junior high that I was in love with my best friend. And I think I probably only realized it because many people commented that we acted like a couple, and many people - including our closest friends - just assumed that we were. I was like, "Why is that?" and then I was like "..... Oh." o.o; But I mean, obviously, not all close friends develop feelings for each other. You can be close to someone and even love someone without having any romantic feelings for them. As for women being closer to each other than men are... I don't know that that's necessarily true. I think women are just more open and expressive than men are about their emotions.

[Melodramatic]

Did your friend freak out when she found out you love her in that way?

[Sirené]

No, it was mutual. She actually admitted to having feelings for me first.. although, given that we already behaved like a couple, anyway, she was probably fairly confident when she did that I felt the same way. ^^;

[Melodramatic]

So you're together now, couple-wise?

[Sirené]

No.. we broke up at the beginning of high school, for several reasons. She wanted the whole popularity thing and was willing to do practically anything to get it.. it brought out the worst in her, I think. She started acting snobbish and talked about everyone behind their backs. A good way to drive people away from you. -.- And she was also really possessive of me. She was particularly jealous of one girl, who became my best friend/love interest throughout high school, and she told me that I wasn't allowed to be friends with her. I was like, 'wtf?' o.o And so one day we had a fight on the phone, I forget what it was about, but I got angry and slammed down the phone and that was it. The next time I saw her I told her I wanted nothing to do with her, period. And we didn't really talk at all for several years until recently. We're really different people now than we were in high school, so we're sort of getting to know each other again. We're still somehow close, though. I guess it's just like that with people you have that much history with. (We had been friends since we were four.)

[Melodramatic]

sounds like a potential soulmate.

[Sirené]

sounds like a potential soulmate.

*laughs* Maybe. :)

[Melodramatic]

I'm guessing you ended up with your other love interest who happened to be another girl.

[Sirené]

I'm guessing you ended up with your other love interest who happened to be another girl.

No, never did. And our friendship also ended rather disastrously. She was just as possessive as my ex-girlfriend was (although I didn't find out until after we stopped speaking), telling other people to stay away from me because 'I was hers'. I don't know if she ever had any romantic interest in me or not.. she gave me a lot of mixed signals. I resented her for a lot of things, but I never said anything and instead held everything inside. Which ended up very badly. Attempted suicide, mental hospital, that sort of thing. -.-; We had planned to go on a trip to Paris together the summer after our Junior year in high school, but it got to the point where I couldn't stand to be around her. I had a mental breakdown, my parents weren't helping, and for some reason, the person I turned to was my ex-girlfriend. I spent the night with her, and the night after, at about 3 am - after having a discussion with another friend - I decided not to go to Paris. Which was kind of bad because I was supposed to leave early the next morning. So, I didn't go to Paris, my friend did, but from what I gather, she didn't enjoy herself too much. I haven't seen her in... hm, guess that's about three years now.

[Damian K]

Thanx, its nice to hear other peoples opinions, especially when they are better than what you thought they would be. I have a serious problem, I always assume the wirst, especially about what other people think, Im afraid of being surprised.
Anyways, Sirene, Im glad your suicide attempts didnt work out, you wouldnt be talking to us today.

[Melodramatic]

I'm guessing you ended up with your other love interest who happened to be another girl.

No, never did. And our friendship also ended rather disastrously. She was just as possessive as my ex-girlfriend was (although I didn't find out until after we stopped speaking), telling other people to stay away from me because 'I was hers'. I don't know if she ever had any romantic interest in me or not.. she gave me a lot of mixed signals. I resented her for a lot of things, but I never said anything and instead held everything inside. Which ended up very badly. Attempted suicide, mental hospital, that sort of thing. -.-; We had planned to go on a trip to Paris together the summer after our Junior year in high school, but it got to the point where I couldn't stand to be around her. I had a mental breakdown, my parents weren't helping, and for some reason, the person I turned to was my ex-girlfriend. I spent the night with her, and the night after, at about 3 am - after having a discussion with another friend - I decided not to go to Paris. Which was kind of bad because I was supposed to leave early the next morning. So, I didn't go to Paris, my friend did, but from what I gather, she didn't enjoy herself too much. I haven't seen her in... hm, guess that's about three years now.
What a juicy tale of cat & mouse. Boy, you must feel special to be so possessed by these 2.

[britkit]

attempted suicide...completly pointless..if it was a true attempt and not a cry for attention one would not openly admit to it... sorry.. a personal veiw of mine knowing several people who have actually commited suicide..not to mention I know the train of thought people use when thiking about suicide... its mainly some plea to be noticed and pitied... its sad really

[Melodramatic]

if it was a true attempt and not a cry for attention one would not openly admit to it...

But she's passed the point of attempting it... so openly admitting to it implies nothing anymore.

[Damian K]

Im gonna have to go ahead and agree with that.

[Sirené]

I can understand where you're coming from, britkit, and probably nothing I say at this point can change the opinion you've already formed of me.. but it wasn't a "plea to be noticed and pitied".. I'm honestly not the type of person who likes to be pitied. I'm certainly not proud of many of the things I've done, but I see no reason to hide it. The only reason I mentioned it here is because it was relevant to the topic I was writing about. I have received help and I am completely past that part of my life now. I am not suicidal or self-destructive like I once was, and honestly, it's really hard for me to understand that sort of mind set now. I see things from a completely different perspective than I did three years ago, and I can see now that the things that were so important to me then, were in fact, very trivial. I think a lot of that is because my mental state has changed, although I'm sure part of it is just from growing up and maturing. I think everything happens for a reason, and the fact that I did go through what I did has made me a much stronger person than I was before. I also think I can probably be more sympathetic to a person who is mentally ill or suicidal than someone who hasn't gone through it. But, in any case... whether you choose to believe it or not, I'm not the type that seeks negative attention.

[Sirené]

What a juicy tale of cat & mouse. Boy, you must feel special to be so possessed by these 2.

*laughs* I guess it sounds rather like something out of a soap opera, doesn't it? This is why I hate drama. I had enough of it as a teenager to last me a lifetime. ^^; (Yes, I know.. technically I'm still a teenager, but I at least consider myself to be out of that stage.) Um.. special? Hm. Well, they are both wonderful people.. I still love them both and always will.. but I think we've all really moved on from all that. ^^;

[ArlettyFan]

What a juicy tale of cat & mouse. Boy, you must feel special to be so possessed by these 2.

*laughs* I guess it sounds rather like something out of a soap opera, doesn't it? This is why I hate drama. I had enough of it as a teenager to last me a lifetime. ^^; (Yes, I know.. technically I'm still a teenager, but I at least consider myself to be out of that stage.) Um.. special? Hm. Well, they are both wonderful people.. I still love them both and always will.. but I think we've all really moved on from all that. ^^;

Ha, being your age, I know exactly what you mean. I don't feel much like a "real" teenager anymore. And those crazy, dramatic years are well past me. what a relief :P

[Melodramatic]

Ha, being your age, I know exactly what you mean. I don't feel much like a "real" teenager anymore. And those crazy, dramatic years are well past me. what a relief

How very fortunate for the both of you. I'm still in my post-melodramatic years.

[Tristana]

I'm a bisexual, too.
And that doesn't mean I can't say i'm gay :roll: I know I'm not gay because I already fell in love with boys. But I also fell in love with girls.
So what ? Should I say something that is untrue ? I'm just what I am and I can't change just to help people accepting me.
Now I'm living a great relationship with a boy, and I have no will to have a girl with me. If I'm in love, I need anything else than the person I love. But, I don't know why, this person can be a man or a woman. That's all. :wink:

[britkit]

see, this proves my theory... i think every girl bi or in denial

[DavidAlizée]

see, this proves my theory... i think every girl bi or in denial

yes i agree with that 100%. deep down every girl has a thing for other grls to love another. Gift of nature ? :wink:

[Ayan]

see, this proves my theory... i think every girl bi or in denial
:lol: That seriously made me laugh.
To assume such a thing based on a couple of random girls...

I'm sorry, but this cannot even be called a theory :lol:

[britkit]

lol..maybe..kind of like the power of tits

[IronRodent]

Isn't funny that the majority of Alizée fans here are male, and that the females happen to like girls as well?

Or not.

[britkit]

i will bring some of my friends
i did a study at college as well.. over 98% said they were bi

[Melodramatic]

i will bring some of my friends
i did a study at college as well.. over 98% said they were bi

Hehehe. Girls gone wild, french-style. :lol: I do agree with someone here that stated that this cannot be called a theory 'coz some ladies are just too damn straight as an arrow.

[Lía]

i used to think that i was bi... but when it comes down to it, i am straight... i do have fantasies bout female (NEVER alizée) but in reality, i'd be too chicken.

END OF DISCUSSION

[ArlettyFan]

The discussion doesn't end here! Only your contribution maybe, but this is one of my favorite threads.


Isn't funny that the majority of Alizée fans here are male, and that the females happen to like girls as well?

Or not.


Ohhhhh my Ironrodent! You may be on to something, but that was a baaad thing to say! :P

[Lía]

ur right...

i meant my contribution...
i don't like spreading my private life on here....

[DavidAlizée]

The discussion doesn't end here! Only your contribution maybe, but this is one of my favorite threads.



why? you little pervert you... :wink:

[ArlettyFan]

why not? Is it any coincidence that my favorite topic on mf-int. is I poeta the gay movie reviewer! This stuff is a good read I tell you! Very interesting.

[DavidAlizée]

why not? Is it any coincidence that my favorite topic on mf-int. is I poeta the gay movie reviewer! This stuff is a good read I tell you! Very interesting.

why? :shock:

[britkit]

LOL, do yourself a favor and go read anne rice's beauty series. You'll get more fun out of it then you will here.

~Bri

[Melodramatic]

Lol :lol: . My thread has gone multi-platinum :lol: :cheesy: . Anyways, my significant other is also bi, although she doesn't really feel any urge for women when she's with me, or whatever that means. lol

[britkit]

lmao... thats great!

~Britkit

[Melodramatic]

Do you think that maybe one of the factors that there are lots of bi chicks is that guys tend to praise bi girls more as opposed to guys being bi's?

[November]

I guess I'm in denial then 'cause I find the thought of doing something sexual with another girl repulsive. Just like I'd assume straight guys feel about other guys.

[Melodramatic]

I guess I'm in denial then 'cause I find the thought of doing something sexual with another girl repulsive. Just like I'd assume straight guys feel about other guys.
No dear, you're not in denial... & neither will we accuse you of being a puritan 'coz you're just straight as a plumbers butchy pipe. :wink:

[November]

Who are you calling 'dear'? :x Kidding.

[Melodramatic]

Who are you calling 'dear'? Kidding.

Just kidding! hehe :cheesy: :shutup: .

[Tristana]

Isn't funny that the majority of Alizée fans here are male, and that the females happen to like girls as well?

Or not.

It's strange because (don't hit me please :mrgreen: ) I have never been attracted to Alizée. Yes she's cute, but she's definitely not my type of girl...

As for girls or guys who are bisexual, I guess it's easier for a girl, because in men's mind there is always this fantasy : to see a girl with another girl. Girls don't really fantasize about seeing men together, I guess.

[britkit]

lol, ick.. I couldn't imagine anothe rmen making out with another man.. disturbing... but..some girls like that.. alot of anime girls... oo..speaking of gf's// anyone wanna see pics of my ex and I? she is sooo adorable!

[Melodramatic]

Bring it on brit. Let's see her.

[britkit]

I don't know if anyone on here is offended by nudity or not.. so I'll leave those pics at a "ask me on messenger" type deal.

[Melodramatic]

Nah... I'm sure no one would mind (I hope so anyways). Why does she have to be naked brit? :lol:

[Moco]

Some people might mind, some might not. But in any case, we can't allow nudity on the forums, so just keep it private.

[Melodramatic]

brit, why did you dump your gf for a bf?

[Joseph]

Isn't funny that the majority of Alizée fans here are male, and that the females happen to like girls as well?

Or not.

It's strange because (don't hit me please :mrgreen: ) I have never been attracted to Alizée. Yes she's cute, but she's definitely not my type of girl...

As for girls or guys who are bisexual, I guess it's easier for a girl, because in men's mind there is always this fantasy : to see a girl with another girl. Girls don't really fantasize about seeing men together, I guess.

Girls with Girls is sick IMO... I guess i'm gay/bi/tranvestite/woman.. whateva' :oops: :oops:

[Miezemiez]

I might be bisexual for outside standards, I have a boyfriend now, but I can honestly say that he is the only guy i will ever fall for. I didnt fall for his looks, but for his personality and blahblah.
In my past I dated girls, and that was the best definately.
I do 'long' for a girl now, and we talk about it.

So am I bisexual? I have no clue. I fall for PERSONS not a sex.
Its complicated heh. Well not for me. But maybe to explain.

[Tristana]

So am I bisexual? I have no clue. I fall for PERSONS not a sex.
Its complicated heh. Well not for me. But maybe to explain.

That's exactly what I think about my own sexuality.

[britkit]

lol... why must she be naked?...well... um.. i could post the pictures of just her with out me then... the only shot i have with her in it she was topless... just pm me if you want it

[Melodramatic]

I might be bisexual for outside standards, I have a boyfriend now, but I can honestly say that he is the only guy i will ever fall for. I didnt fall for his looks, but for his personality and blahblah.
In my past I dated girls, and that was the best definately.
I do 'long' for a girl now, and we talk about it.

So am I bisexual? I have no clue. I fall for PERSONS not a sex.
Its complicated heh. Well not for me. But maybe to explain.
You sound like my w. This is incredible. :lol:

[Sirené]

Girls don't really fantasize about seeing men together, I guess.

lol! Not the case. I would say at least half of the girls I am acquainted with fantasize about men together. I'm also one. ^^; I know many people would find that strange or disgusting, but I honestly don't care. *shrug* I'm not one to criticize other people's interests, and while I don't appreciate others that criticize me for mine, I've learned not to let it bother me. But I like the idea of heterosexual or lesbian couples too, though. I guess all types of relationships/romances appeal to me.. ^^;

[Tristana]

Girls don't really fantasize about seeing men together, I guess.

lol! Not the case. I would say at least half of the girls I am acquainted with fantasize about men together. I'm also one. ^^; I know many people would find that strange or disgusting, but I honestly don't care. *shrug* I'm not one to criticize other people's interests, and while I don't appreciate others that criticize me for mine, I've learned not to let it bother me. But I like the idea of heterosexual or lesbian couples too, though. I guess all types of relationships/romances appeal to me.. ^^;

Yes, I know it exists and that it's not disgusting at all, but for example in porn movies, you always see girls together and never men together. It might be a fantasy for girls but it is less known and less used in the medias.

[DavidAlizée]

omg every girl on the forum has turned BI :shock:

[britkit]

lol, like you are complaining david.. lol and I did not turn... you saw stacey and I ... that was at least two years ago.... and I believe I showed you Amelie too...

[Lía]

omg every girl on the forum has turned BI :shock:

ahem... i'm not bi... i'm as straight as a fiddle!! :mrgreen:

[Franka]

bi? Sometimes they're quite great aren't they? But all in all, I am a straight~ yeah, I'm sure, no doubt..........
(This topic makes me think about a show "Queer Eye on the Straight Guy" :mrgreen: I love that show~)

[Melodramatic]

Girls don't really fantasize about seeing men together, I guess.

lol! Not the case. I would say at least half of the girls I am acquainted with fantasize about men together. I'm also one. ^^; I know many people would find that strange or disgusting, but I honestly don't care. *shrug* I'm not one to criticize other people's interests, and while I don't appreciate others that criticize me for mine, I've learned not to let it bother me. But I like the idea of heterosexual or lesbian couples too, though. I guess all types of relationships/romances appeal to me.. ^^;

Yes, I know it exists and that it's not disgusting at all, but for example in porn movies, you always see girls together and never men together. It might be a fantasy for girls but it is less known and less used in the medias.
Not all girls are opposed to it. It's just easier for them to admit it since it's pretty mainstream, or atleast the male counterparts make it to be. I know some girls who get off on 2m action, bizarre but it exists.

[Sirené]

Girls don't really fantasize about seeing men together, I guess.

lol! Not the case. I would say at least half of the girls I am acquainted with fantasize about men together. I'm also one. ^^; I know many people would find that strange or disgusting, but I honestly don't care. *shrug* I'm not one to criticize other people's interests, and while I don't appreciate others that criticize me for mine, I've learned not to let it bother me. But I like the idea of heterosexual or lesbian couples too, though. I guess all types of relationships/romances appeal to me.. ^^;

Yes, I know it exists and that it's not disgusting at all, but for example in porn movies, you always see girls together and never men together. It might be a fantasy for girls but it is less known and less used in the medias.

That's true. ^^ Most porn seems to be intended for a male audience, and since two girls together is more commonly a man's fantasy than a woman's, it is seen much more frequently in porn than two men together. And gay pornography seems to be directed to gay men rather than women. The only medium in which gay material seems to actually be intended for a female audience is anime and manga (called 'shounen-ai' or 'yaoi', depending on how explicit the material is). Shounen-ai has actually become rather popular in the past few years, and there are many titles - some actually quite explicit - that are available in most bookstores.

[Melodramatic]

The only medium in which gay material seems to actually be intended for a female audience is anime and manga (called 'shounen-ai' or 'yaoi', depending on how explicit the material is). Shounen-ai has actually become rather popular in the past few years, and there are many titles - some actually quite explicit - that are available in most bookstores.

How is this different from merely desiring an m2m show in the flesh? I mean I know its just animation, but it's quite similar. Maybe the girls are shy about it 7 the awkwardness is lessened through the "animation" nature of it?

[Miezemiez]

I would say I do not mind if I see my boy with a boy (he doesnt want it though thats okay). Its sort of a turn on. Not anal though :shock: , but oral and stuff, that is quite a turn on, or just feeling each other.

Not as big as a turn on as girl-girl, but its cool to see.
Im a perv I guess :doc:

[RR]

^yeah, you are :roll: j/k

thats just gross and disturbing. oh no, now that thought is gonna be stuck in my head and its all your fault :cheesy:

[britkit]

lol..we should start a chain about pervert son here.. i bet I am the biggest pervert...better yet..you all have my word...i am the biggest pervert..my mind has no limits...lmao

[Melodramatic]

I would say I do not mind if I see my boy with a boy (he doesnt want it though thats okay). Its sort of a turn on. Not anal though , but oral and stuff, that is quite a turn on, or just feeling each other.

Not as big as a turn on as girl-girl, but its cool to see.
Im a perv I guess

Hahaha :lol: . Your courageous honesty is admirable. To each his/her own. A toast for the future. Happy New Year! :scooter:

[Sirené]

The only medium in which gay material seems to actually be intended for a female audience is anime and manga (called 'shounen-ai' or 'yaoi', depending on how explicit the material is). Shounen-ai has actually become rather popular in the past few years, and there are many titles - some actually quite explicit - that are available in most bookstores.

How is this different from merely desiring an m2m show in the flesh? I mean I know its just animation, but it's quite similar. Maybe the girls are shy about it 7 the awkwardness is lessened through the "animation" nature of it?

Oh, that's not what I'm saying at all. It's not really any different. (Although I have talked to many people who would argue otherwise.) All I meant by that is that, at least at this point, the only type of "m2m" that is intended for a female audience is shounen-ai and yaoi. Shounen-ai/yaoi series are generally written by women for women. Any other type of gay pornographic material is intended to be viewed by gay men. (Imagine that. ^^;)

But I entirely agree with what you said. And for many girls, I believe you are right. They enjoy shounen-ai or yaoi, but find the idea of two men together (outside of anime/manga) to be disgusting. I don't really get it, but whatever. ^^;

[ArlettyFan]

Sirené after reading both of your last posts I have one thing to say only.

You are very knowlegable about this. :P

[Orion]

lol..we should start a chain about pervert son here.. i bet I am the biggest pervert...better yet..you all have my word...i am the biggest pervert..my mind has no limits...lmao

Nah! you're "a dreamer!" My mind can get very perverted . . . you all have MY word. BTW, I can think of things to do in bed with girls that can make the most prolific porn star blush. Like that rock star said: "If I was a woman, I'd be a lesbian!" My sentiments exactly!

Lia, I am also straight as a fiddle, and my perversion only goes as far as women are involved. I look at gays and say "How can a man choose that over a beautiful woman??" I guess it is easier for women to be bi - they are so beautiful.

WOW! I have never posted like this before! I love women, is my point - everything for thier pleasure!! :D

[Sirené]

Sirené after reading both of your last posts I have one thing to say only.

You are very knowlegable about this. :P

Hmm.. I guess so? Only because it is a subject that interests me, though. :p

[Sirené]

Lia, I am also straight as a fiddle, and my perversion only goes as far as women are involved. I look at gays and say "How can a man choose that over a beautiful woman??" I guess it is easier for women to be bi - they are so beautiful.

lol.. and I can't completely understand how anyone could not find both men and women attractive. I find men and women both equally attractive. I guess I have a slight preference for men since I would prefer to be in a relationship with a man than a woman.. just because it'd make my life so much easier. I'm already different in enough ways. ^^; (But if I happen to fall in love with a woman, then so be it.) The only serious relationships I have had have been with the same gender, but that is simply because I can connect so much easier with females than I can males. I have a hard time becoming close to men on a mental and emotional level. But back to my original train of thought.. ^^; I always wonder how women can not find other women attractive, and how men can not find other men attractive. I mean.. I know that's how most people are, but since I'm not like that, I don't really get it. Personally, I think most people are at least potentially bisexual.. it just takes meeting the right person. :p (I'm sure many would disagree.. that's just my opinion.)

[Orion]

Sirené, most men do not know how to treat a woman! It's just sex and not much more after that. They do not realize that women want to be caressed and listened to; that they want us men to be their best friend. To do that we somtimes have to adopt certain female characteristics (mental). What's rally funny is these guys that jump in bed with a woman and hump like dogs (which is ok sometimes); but most times sensuality rules!! All I can say to you is that you will find your mate/soulmate! Happy thoughts!

and NO! I can never be with a man or even think about it. Best friends, yes; but, not closer. NOt even at gun point or through hypnotization can they get me to "putt from the rough" like that :doc:

[Melodramatic]

What's really funny is these guys that jump in bed with a woman and hump like dogs (which is ok sometimes);

"Which is ok sometimes"? Do you mean you condone such behaviour? Afterall, there are a platter of women (some women) who cater to such acts.

[Orion]

Sometimes it is not about cuddling and sesuality; but, rather, about the pleasure of sex. Sometimes, people are just horny and want to do the wild thing. It's all human nature, I guess! and it doesn't matter whether you are a man or a woman; If you are horny, then you are horny!

[Melodramatic]

Sometimes it is not about cuddling and sesuality; but, rather, about the pleasure of sex. Sometimes, people are just horny and want to do the wild thing. It's all human nature, I guess! and it doesn't matter whether you are a man or a woman; If you are horny, then you are horny!

Ah yes. So true, but hornyness has its consequenes if utilized incorrectly.

[tern]

Ah yes. So true, but hornyness has its consequenes if utilized incorrectly.


Child Support. Control thy loins.

[DavidAlizée]

What's really funny is these guys that jump in bed with a woman and hump like dogs (which is ok sometimes);

"Which is ok sometimes"? Do you mean you condone such behaviour? Afterall, there are a platter of women (some women) who cater to such acts.

Melo, some women love that.. they like to be treated like that. So its fine to condone it, but the ones that are respectable and have feelings, you treat wth respect. Not that im saying hop into bed with some girl andhump her like a dog, im only saying some women may like that style.

[Melodramatic]

What's really funny is these guys that jump in bed with a woman and hump like dogs (which is ok sometimes);

"Which is ok sometimes"? Do you mean you condone such behaviour? Afterall, there are a platter of women (some women) who cater to such acts.

Melo, some women love that.. they like to be treated like that. So its fine to condone it, but the ones that are respectable and have feelings, you treat wth respect. Not that im saying hop into bed with some girl andhump her like a dog, im only saying some women may like that style.
Right. Properly date a potential spouse, but boink the bitches & hoes.

[Sirené]

Sirené, most men do not know how to treat a woman! It's just sex and not much more after that. They do not realize that women want to be caressed and listened to; that they want us men to be their best friend. To do that we somtimes have to adopt certain female characteristics (mental). What's rally funny is these guys that jump in bed with a woman and hump like dogs (which is ok sometimes); but most times sensuality rules!! All I can say to you is that you will find your mate/soulmate! Happy thoughts!

and NO! I can never be with a man or even think about it. Best friends, yes; but, not closer. NOt even at gun point or through hypnotization can they get me to "putt from the rough" like that :doc:

Hm.. yes, I think that is part of the problem. It's important to me to be close friends with someone before being involved in a relationship with them. I don't trust easily, so there has to be some kind of foundation there. A large part of the reason I've never really been able to become friends with the opposite sex is because they wanted the physical aspects of a relationship without taking the time to develop a friendship. I also had not-so-pleasant experiences with guys in high school.. somehow, I always seemed to attract the creepy "stalker" types. -.-; That's why relationships with girls always seemed to develop much more naturally.. (although, they also tended to be much more complicated. >_<)

Ehh.. sorry. I tend to ramble. Anyway, thank you. :p

*lol* I won't argue that.. after all, I'm sure you would know best. ^^;

[Melodramatic]

Have you ever crossed the line with the same sex, Sirene (if you don't mind me asking)?

[Sirené]

Have you ever crossed the line with the same sex, Sirene (if you don't mind me asking)?

Yes..

[Orion]

somehow, I always seemed to attract the creepy "stalker" types.


See, Sirené, I was right; most men think with their penis! And don't be sorry for rambling (if you even are). I know this other girl that rambles and all I do is stare at her and she just blushes . . . . hehe, very cute!

I'm sure you don't need my advice, but, if I may, let me suggest that you search for your sweetheart and live like there is no tomorrow. I hope this for everyone here!

[Tristana]

Personally, I think most people are at least potentially bisexual.. it just takes meeting the right person. :p (I'm sure many would disagree.. that's just my opinion.)

I agree :wink: I think we're all, in different ways, differente degrees, attracted both by men and women.

As far as relationships are concerned... I had great and sweet relationships, where the person was nice. But sometimes you just want to have fun, either with a boy or a girl. If it's said at the beginning that no-one of the two wants a real relationship, I don't think it's bad to behave as you described - that is to say to be more violent, you know, more physical than something else.

[FilleBaisers]

There is nothing wrong with being bisexual. Some people even consider it to be chic.

[Melodramatic]

There is nothing wrong with being bisexual. Some people even consider it to be chic.

And you can't turn bi for the sake of being chic.

[Dusty]

Hey, I don't blame chicks for being bisexual. I would do the same if I was in those shoes... Being a male though.... the thought of being with another man.... well... almost makes me vomit. I mean, come on... we're hideous, nasty, hairy creatures. :wink:

[ArlettyFan]

There is something that can be done about all the hair, but it's hard to do. :wink:

[tern]

There is something that can be done about all the hair, but it's hard to do. :wink:

Please Jango, there are children around.

[ArlettyFan]

I meant body hair in general and nothign specific you perv :roll: :D

[Dusty]

Sureeeeee.... we know what you meant. :roll: sick sick bastard....

btw, that method wouldn't involve a hungry bear and a goat now would it?

[tern]

Sureeeeee.... we know what you meant. :roll: sick sick bastard....

btw, that method wouldn't involve a hungry bear and a goat now would it?

And some honey... :?

[ArlettyFan]

no...the very reason to wax includes avoiding the situation where you spill honey on yourself at a picnic (on your hairy arms legs etc) and are then in a sticky situation. :wink:

[Mr Bond]

You enjoy honey then? :wink: Just kidding! Yeah Dusty I know what you mean a dudes body is really gross not just the hair other things too like the fact that guys have ugly feet well at least mine are! As for whats downstairs yeuch hideous! Nope doesn't appeal to me sorry! Chicks being bi yeah I can see why. I imagine another woman would be much more gentle well at least then the majority of guys! Plus she would know what the other girl wants in terms of giving pleasure.

[ArlettyFan]

You enjoy honey then? :wink: Just kidding! Yeah Dusty I know what you mean a dudes body is really gross not just the hair other things too like the fact that guys have ugly feet well at least mine are! As for whats downstairs yeuch hideous! Nope doesn't appeal to me sorry! Chicks being bi yeah I can see why. I imagine another woman would be much more gentle well at least then the majority of guys! Plus she would know what the other girl wants in terms of giving pleasure.

:shock: lololololol what are we trying to do? Rival MFI? :wink:

[Mr Bond]

Nah not really lol! :lol: Just being wierd today!

[ArlettyFan]

Bi the way mr. Bond. You are the best!

[tern]

I think I'll just bow out of this thread..

[Sirené]

There is nothing wrong with being bisexual. Some people even consider it to be chic.

And you can't turn bi for the sake of being chic.

Yet, strangely, I have known many girls to "turn" bisexual for that reason, and because they think it will make them seem more attractive to guys. -.-;

[Misfit]

^ It sometimes works >_>

[DavidAlizée]

There is nothing wrong with being bisexual. Some people even consider it to be chic.

And you can't turn bi for the sake of being chic.

Yet, strangely, I have known many girls to "turn" bisexual for that reason, and because they think it will make them seem more attractive to guys. -.-;

I can tell you now, its not. Unless ur twisted ofc.. No guy in their right mind wants his wife Bisexual. Its immoral imo..

why is it a good thing, a relationship is supposed to be built on 1 person... not a few people in the bed.

[Sirené]

I can tell you now, its not. Unless ur twisted ofc.. No guy in their right mind wants his wife Bisexual. Its immoral imo..

why is it a good thing, a relationship is supposed to be built on 1 person... not a few people in the bed.

I don't see anything 'chic' about it, either. To me, it shouldn't matter, either way. However, I would like to point out that bisexuality only indicates a person who can be attracted to either gender, and nothing else. It does not indicate a lack of monogamy or faithfulness. A bisexual person is not necessarily - or even usually - romantically/physically involved with more than one person at once. Contrary to what many believe, it's not about being greedy or having it all. ^^;

[Tim]

I think woman are naturally closer to each other than man, but I could never say I LOVE YOU to a man the way I would say to a woman. The only time I would say that to a man would be if I was making fun of him or if he saved my life in a great battle somewhere. Took the words right out of my mouth :D