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Chromex
14th November 2004, 22:05
The Voici article, thanks to Greg for posting this on mfi (http://www.mf-international.com/viewtopic.php?p=74958#74958):
http://img49.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img49&image=alizee1.jpg
http://img49.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img49&image=alizee2a.jpg
Can we get a translation?
DavidAlizée
14th November 2004, 22:09
yes, great scans...
i would love for the translation if Mark or Moco has time...
is she buying baby stuff????????????? or just buying those cos it looks cute?
Petsku1
14th November 2004, 22:12
Can we get a translation?
i think that's not possible :P
and thx Greg & Chromy.
Ayan
14th November 2004, 22:13
From those bits that I could understand, Voici is exaggerating to the max as usual. Pretty lame from them, but yeah, a translation would be appreciated.
Alizée looks rather serious in those pics. I wonder why is that. A baby should make people happy, no? And if those pics are supposed to be the only "evidence" that She is pregnant then let me laugh. . .
Maybe She was buying things for someone else's baby. Anyone knows when is Jenifer's baby's birthday ?
Ugh, I could really use some solid facts concerning that rumor. :?
Petsku1
14th November 2004, 23:33
exaggerating indeed... and they still show no signs of proofs... "deuxiéme album Gourmandises" ?? heh...and they don't even know that.
and i dunno... for me it seems they're mocking her quite directly :x
and that 85% reliablility for the other rumour... (Nicola Sirkis from Indochine would be writing the lyrics for her next album and she would cut the connections with MF and LB)...heh, how do they
measure the reliability for rumours?
Backinblack
14th November 2004, 23:39
Here you go. Pretty much what I was expecting from Voici. At least we have some new pictures of her.
http://www.alizee-forum.com/galerie/data/thumbnails/176/alizee_11-15-2004_voici.jpg (http://www.alizee-forum.com/galerie/data/media/176/alizee_11-15-2004_voici.jpg) http://www.alizee-forum.com/galerie/data/thumbnails/176/Alize_Voici_Nov_2004_2.jpg (http://www.alizee-forum.com/galerie/data/media/176/Alize_Voici_Nov_2004_2.jpg)
Alizée: A baby with Jérémy
(Captions):
Her career is at a dead spot? No matter. In real life, she is a woman in full bloom.
She has grown up. Just two years ago, she thought that children were born from cabbages.
When she saw her stomach getting round, Alizee thought she had eaten too much candy. But no, it wasn't that...
The doll isn't for the baby, it's for her. Afterward, she'll also pick up a G.I. Joe for Jérémy.
One year after their express marriage in Las Vegas, the two baby singers are going to be able to play mommy and daddy. Cool!
In the baby carrier aisle...for the car seat, Alizée hesitates. Will that hold Jérémy's skateboard?
She'd like a fantasy ring. But her mom doesn't agree. She first has to improve her latest results from Hit Machine...
Underwear showing, a ridiculous hat...Jérém' has everything to become an exemplary dad.
(Story):
You'd swear she was just barely out of childhood. But this young woman who sways her hips, accompanied by her mother, in the maternity aisle of a big Parisian store, is waiting for a happy event. Yes, just as unexpected as it could be, Alizée is pregnant! A big piece of news that is wreaking havoc on her fans and reminds all of us that time passes quickly. Her debut on the TV show Graine de stars on M6, the little smiles of the cheeky young girl, her untouchable air when she sang Moi... Lolita, her miniskirts...all that, that was yesterday. For since then, the doll has freed herself. Like a marionette that rebels, she has taken her destiny in her own hands and liberated herself from the hold of Mylène Farmer and Laurent Boutonnat. First, she put her schoolgirl clothes back in the closet. Then, she met Jérémy Chatelain, a young man of his time, comfortable in his shoes. With him, the pretty Corsican felt her wings growing, the wings of love that rhyme with forever. Of course, they have lots of things in common: music, clothes, and both of them a big heart. Result, she married her Jérém', November 6, 2003, in Las Vegas. Since then, the apartment that they share in the 9th arrondissement of Paris has become a theater for their wildest dreams.
The first thing together: give life. Sharing happy moments with their friends Jenifer, Maxim, and their little Aaron, that obviously gave them some ideas. Next spring, a little being is going to come shake up their routines. Monsieur and madame Chatelain will thus have the pleasure of announcing the birth of their child. Wow, that sounds cool, doesn't it?
The rumor is circling
Tired of being the marionette of the Farmer/Boutonnat couple, Alizée has decided to cut the cord that linked her to her mentors. For her next studio album, she asked Nicola Sirkis, the singer of Indochine, to compose some songs for her. After the semi-failure of her second album Gourmandises [???], this would be the opportunity for her to get back in touch with success and find herself in Paradize...
Reliability: 85%
DavidAlizée
14th November 2004, 23:42
Yeah, she does look fed up in those pics.. Some said she looks kinda large (baby) but i vey much doubt that. If these scans and et tocs rumor are the only proof, well thats ok.. cos its more than likely a load of rubbish. In my opnion it look as she is looking at some "cute" toys.. afterall she is a girl and girls think stuff like that is cute.
Chromex
14th November 2004, 23:43
Thanks for the translation Backinblack.
DavidAlizée
14th November 2004, 23:48
the apartment that they share in the 9th arrondissement of Paris has become a theater for their wildest dreams
???? i thought she lived in that flat by herself.
Yeah, Voici have jumped to conclusions.. Although, surely if the lawyers were trying to get et toc to not show this rumour in the first place, voici can get into trouble for printing this no?
Thanks for the translation Mark!!!
Ayan
14th November 2004, 23:51
I think it's true then. Especially when watching the first pic that was posted. (The one where Her mom is holding an umbrella.) Alizée's belly looks big. And She is sort of holding it with Her hand. She will be the best mom ever. The most beautiful one. Congratulations Alizée.
DavidAlizée
14th November 2004, 23:58
I think it's true then. Especially when watching the first pic that was posted. (The one where Her mom is holding an umbrella.) Alizée's belly looks big.
fucksake... i thought it wasnt true, now i see her holding her belly.. i guess so..
Max_07s
15th November 2004, 00:01
thats what i trying to said in chat room..her belly seem big..oh no..she is pregnant..but i'm happy for her if it is true..i hope not...she will rest about a year..then we have to wait a long time to see her..
Ayan
15th November 2004, 00:04
Do you guys think She will make lots of songs about babies. Childrensongs? :wink:
I would sure enjoy listening to them :D
Wow I am so happy for Her at the moment.
!!!
Backinblack
15th November 2004, 00:04
In these pictures, her hairstyle more closely resembles that of her concert tour. I think she looks great in these pictures, especially this one:
http://img34.exs.cx/img34/360/alizee2.jpg :oops:
Petsku1
15th November 2004, 00:05
i think Ayan's a bit too hasty... if they were making such a rumour why not least have a pic to support it that it looks like she's pregnant....
hmm but should i congratulate already too? :P .... and of course she will be the best mom ever.
Chromex
15th November 2004, 00:18
I think the evidence is solid enough - you don't go shopping to the baby department with your mom unless you're pregnant, do you?
So congratulations Alizée! I wish you, Jérémy and your baby all the best in the future.
Snatcher42
15th November 2004, 00:20
Yeah... while still impossible to say for certain, I am starting to believe it is true as well (for a number of reasons, not just this article). Like everyone else, I am of course happy for her... though it is a weird feeling: seeing the young 16 year old child star we knew of old growing up into being a mother herself. Quite the head-spin. But at least a happy one!
Glad to see her with her mom too - keeping herself grounded and supported - the way to go.
And at least Voici admits the plans for the next album are rumors and not solid facts... And they do say Nicola Sirkis will be writing some of the songs. So MF/LF could still contribute too. Yes, it's just speculation - but it doesn't sound impossible. And hey, it would at least mean Lili is already working on her next career move - which is good news indeed.
And yes, it seems like a minor and superficial point after all that, but BIB is absolutely right: her style has returned a bit back to what we are used to. I like her hair very much. She looks nice. It's reassuring: the Alizée we've known is not completely changed after all. Just growing up.
So... in the end... I guess I do believe the rumors a little more now. But instead of disheartening, they make me feel that the future is most bright.
DavidAlizée
15th November 2004, 00:30
Sorry, i am so disspointed... I have to say this, i knew Jéremy would do this...
I can't belive you people are happy, wtf..
Snatcher42
15th November 2004, 00:36
Doesn't it at least show that Jérémy is serious about his commitment to Alizée? In the past, alot of people were worried he wasn't... I think a child must be a big commitment to fidelity for both of them. In the milieu of constant celebrity marriages that don't last a month, Lili and Jerry have shown themselves as the mature couple that breaks the mold by fashioning a lasting and supporting relationship. Good for them.
Akbar
15th November 2004, 00:38
Jeremy could be indeed a jerk. Did u consider that he could not be THE FATHER???? Maybe there is somebody else... For example a fan... :shock: :D :D
DavidAlizée
15th November 2004, 00:42
If its true, i think it will be his... but, 2 years or something they have been togeather.. and now a baby, its crazy. What isshe thinking of ??
Her Carrer is just starting.. Unless the baby is unexpected.. and that doesnt make it any better!
nevermind.. i guess you all have to be happy for her, nope.. not me. He is a jerk.
Jaycubed
15th November 2004, 01:11
Sorry david but i am gonna ignore you here and comment on Chromex and Snatcher's comments...
Chromex may i echo your sentiments on the top post of this page...
A HUGE congratulations to All 3 of them, wow...all 3. Especially Alizée of course, i wish you all the very best...
And i agree with Snatcher here, for me it shows an excellent commitment to Alizée from Jeremy and also a showing that he cares so much he helps her get what she dreams of...she said in interviews before she even met Jeremy that she would like a baby at 20 years old, and it looks like Jeremy has helped her with this, what show of love is bigger than this?
Also: I love her hair i think it's excellent and she just looks so amazing natural, the most beautiful think i've ever seen. Something else i wanted to say but i've totally forgot for now
Snatcher42
15th November 2004, 01:31
she said in interviews before she even met Jeremy that she would like a baby at 20 years old
Not that I'm doubting you, but do you recall where she said this? I can't seem to remember.
Ayan
15th November 2004, 01:34
Actually that has been said in at least 3-4 different interviews already. With a little luck it should be fairly easy to find some of the interviews in the fanpage.
Unless of course a certain someone is too lazy.
Snatcher42
15th November 2004, 01:37
Ayan, Ayan, I know it's in a few places - and I wouldn't have asked if I hadn't already looked. So a link or two would be nice.
Gee, try not to be so confrontational, eh? :roll:
Backinblack
15th November 2004, 01:41
Here's one:
http://www.alizee-fanpage.com/page.php?language=ger&content=showpress&id=168&lang=gb
How do you look at the future?
A: I figure I'll be married and have kids. I don't know when, but when it happens, it will be a good moment. My mom was 22 when I was born, and I think it's really good to be a young mom. Also, I just learned that Jenifer is expecting, that's super. I wouldn't be unhappy to have a baby at 20 years old.
Rick Rivers
15th November 2004, 01:51
Shes really pregnant?! :shock:
Oh yeah. Tomorrow I'll have to take my dog to the veterinarian... :zzz:
Snatcher42
15th November 2004, 01:52
Shes really pregnant?! :shock:
Oh yeah. Tomorrow I'll have to take my dog to the veterinarian... :zzz:
:shock:
Muhahaha. I bet some people here wish they could have done that to Jérémy!
HampsterOnSpeed
15th November 2004, 01:57
well those pictures I think solidifies the rumor, not that anybody else hadn't realized that already. Wow, she is going to be a mother, you know, deep down I hoped the rumor...was well just a rumor. Nevertheless though, as Sean said, I'm happy for Lili, one of her greatest wishes coming true...what greater joy then that for her. I know for a fact, Lili will be very successful in her career, no stupid rumours no jealous media etc...will hinder her success. sigh...what else should I say, nothing I suppose. Good day, Hampster out.
Bard
15th November 2004, 02:39
The only fear I have is that she could not know what she's doing. I dunno - looks a bit early to have a child for her, IMHO. I just hope she really wants him/her.
Apart from that, I'm just sooo happy for her :)
And to be completely honest, I also feel a little relieved.... Why? Well, in the completely unlikely case I was her man, it wouldn't have worked between us.... A child at 20? Not really my plan for life :P
AKMS
15th November 2004, 02:43
Rick Rivers,
Oh yeah. Tomorrow I'll have to take my dog to the veterinarian...
Ha! Lol then I'm gonna be drunk at first time in my life... and probably explode smth!!
Snatcher42,
I bet some people here wish they could have done that to Jérémy!
ssss!! Alize may to hear us... :lol:
but however I hope that Jeremy will be good honour and glory guy, we can return Lili only to good hands!, I hope also that baby appearance will make Jery responsible person...
anyway, good luck, happy, health and clear sky to Alizee, her baby and Jeremy...
I hope it will be good alliance, and we always will be happy watching for they! and Alizee will not leave us, will song for many, will stay our Star!
ps when we will give name child???
Manu
15th November 2004, 02:43
I still don't believe one word. Maybe I just don't want to, but seeing is believing, I guess. It's Voici what we are talking about, and without any proof, only a woman and a girl going shopping.
And in any case, having a baby at age 20 can not be cool; I for one don't image myself being a daddy. Geez.
Snatcher42
15th November 2004, 02:48
I find the article BIB posted very interesting in that regard: This isn't far removed from what Alizée's own mother did, and people do often take after their parents in these matters.
ArlettyFan
15th November 2004, 02:57
Jeremy could be indeed a jerk. Did u consider that he could not be THE FATHER???? Maybe there is somebody else... For example a fan... :shock: :D :D
....ya, guys, i was gonna wait to tell you this... oh and please dont kill me, but...
DavidAlizée
15th November 2004, 02:57
True Ben! but i think 20 years old is wayyyyyyyyy to young to be having a child imo..
Then again, nothing is concrete yet, it is afterall just a rumor..
I mean, its not official, and is the marriage official.. nothing is realy. Untll she actuallycomes out and tells us, or it becomes obvoius.. then ill 100% belive it. Untill then, i go back to beliving excatly what it is.. a rumor. You people are way to quick to congratulate her..
Snatcher42
15th November 2004, 03:00
Yes, well like I said in mIRC - I'm 95% convinced now, and all comments are under the assumption that it is true... but there is still that chance it's not. We'll see. 20 is young, but not to the point that it must spell the end of her life/career.
Re: Jérémy not being the father - yes, I have though of that... it is possible, but I highly highly highly doubt it (wanna talk odds? I give ya less than 1%).
ArlettyFan
15th November 2004, 03:04
Re: Jérémy not being the father - yes, I have though of that... it is possible, but I highly highly highly doubt it (wanna talk odds? I give ya less than 1%).
!j/k!
id give it 100 percent :wink:
Snatcher42
15th November 2004, 03:12
Ah Jango, there's a "Mr. Chatelain" here to see you sir. Says he has "a bone to pick..."? :lol:
ArlettyFan
15th November 2004, 03:14
tell him to take a card.
banishedbayou
15th November 2004, 03:27
Here is another site that mentions the pregnancy and some unrelated Alizee news.
http://members.boardhost.com/myleniumforum/msg/46051.html
Snatcher42
15th November 2004, 03:47
Oh man banished, I just google-translated that page.
Disgusting tripe, most of it. Inexcusable rubbish. Makes me sick.
:frown:
AKMS
15th November 2004, 03:52
If somebody translate this.. it will be interesting.
banishedbayou
15th November 2004, 03:54
Oh man banished, I just google-translated that page.
Disgusting tripe, most of it. Inexcusable rubbish. Makes me sick.
:frown:
I babelfished it but couldn't make a lot of sense of it.
tern
15th November 2004, 03:58
Meh, don't know what to think. Except I do know that that is too young to be a mother. I may sound like a jerk for saying this, but this baby (if true), best not derail or hurt her career. I think like everyone here, I enjoy her for how she is right now and as she has been, and I don't see how big changes could be for the better, but we shall see.
Ayan
15th November 2004, 04:04
How could a child have a negative influence in the first place?
She will have to be less active as a performancer for a while, but that's about it.
If anything, then it will have a positive effect on Alizée's overall style. A child is good.
AKMS
15th November 2004, 04:12
hey guys, please tell me two things..
on the photo Alizee's mother with her?
she changed hairstyle back? when this photo made?
Eukie
15th November 2004, 04:16
Awwww, she'd be an awesome mother. She seems to have "straightened out" if you ask me, shirked the punk look and gone more to a grown-up/original Alizée look. She does look to be getting a little bigger to me.
All I have to say is that Jérémy better straighten up and start being some semblance of a role model, and apparently as fast as Alizée has. If it's true, I feel bad for her: she's just not had the chance to be a kid, now she may have one herself! He had best be there for her, she's apparently been there for him more than he has for her, and he's got to be a dad now, if the rumours are true. Time to be a man, Jérry, playtime is over.
In regards to Alizée's career, did having kids de-rail Madonna's career? If anything, this would bring yet another iteration to Alizée's musical persona, and an interesting one, indeed. I'd say this is the perfect excuse to cancel promotion of the live stuff.
À Voici: Va te faire *******! Don't make fun of our Alizée.
Then again, she could just be shopping for friends and family, with her mum ;)
Alizée, bonne chance ! Nous t'aimons très beaucoup !
Moco
15th November 2004, 06:15
How could a child have a negative influence in the first place?
She will have to be less active as a performancer for a while, but that's about it.
If anything, then it will have a positive effect on Alizée's overall style. A child is good.
Exactly, man. Having a child and motherhood can only make Alizée into a better person (not that there was anything wrong with her before) and it'll give her some life experience that when she comes out with her next album, there'll be some real substance there. I'm not saying this is an intentional move just to get rid of her lolita image, but it would certainly do the trick. When she comes back, she'll have grown and matured a lot more than when she did with MCE. I also mentioned in another thread how having a child had such a positive effect on Jenifer's career, and I believe it will do the same to Alizée.
ArlettyFan
15th November 2004, 07:23
remember, if history repeats itself... she will have another kid.
Moco
15th November 2004, 07:38
What? That makes absolutely no sense. She's never had a kid before.
Snatcher42
15th November 2004, 07:43
I think he means that if she keeps up on a path like her parents.
Joseph
15th November 2004, 09:04
i'm not saying ANYTHING yet... i'll see when I get something tangible...
Backinblack
15th November 2004, 17:05
As expected, other magazines have followed Voici's lead. Here's what Public has to say:
http://www.alizee-forum.com/galerie/data/thumbnails/176/Save0002.jpg (http://www.alizee-forum.com/galerie/data/media/176/Save0002.JPG)
Ready to start a family!
Alizée and Jérémy
Just one year after their marriage in Las Vegas, the singer and the Lolita are still leading the perfect love. As for their careers, contrary to what some people have stated, everything is going well for her as well as for him, thank you. Between Jérémy and Alizée, the osmosis is so perfect that they now are making real plans for the future. Like starting their little family, for example. The couple has indeed planned to have a baby quickly. At 20 years old, these new responsabilities don't scare them. All the more so as they will be able to count on the precious advice of their best friends Maxim and Jenifer, who could be, who knows, the future godfather and godmother...
By the way, I don't think pink is exactly Jérémy's color. :shutup:
Petsku1
15th November 2004, 17:33
omg yeah pink :mrgreen:
Beloki@AlizeeFan
15th November 2004, 17:39
I always said that Jeremy is not from here.. :roll:
what a man... *caution irony*
UK Fan 2003
15th November 2004, 19:25
Still stunned by all this but I can say Congratulations Alizée!!!
Of course I'm not holding my breath, but something official would be great; just to say that she is pregnant but looking at those pictures she certainly looks it !!
Alizée will make a great Mum and I think Jérémy will make a great Dad too (if he pulls his trousers up...instead of flashing his undies! lol)
Once again, Congratulations to Alizée and Jérémy I'm extremely happy for both of you! :D :D :D
IronRodent
15th November 2004, 19:58
:idea: ...or maybe she was just concealing stolen merchandise?
Which would be worse for Alizée fans, Alizée the young mother, or Alizée the shoplifter?
Kidding aside, maybe she's just having some kind of stomach problems. I know this girl whose stomach enlarged the other day for no apparent reason and she was parading around jokingly saying that she was pregnant. So maybe stomachs just do that sometimes. I don't know.
If it is indeed true that she is pregnant...at such a young age too! It is a pretty big change. I don't know how I feel about it yet...
tern
15th November 2004, 21:57
The man of the family in pink. Honestly, I have a problem with that, especially the hat.
Sure, it's just gas! Doesn't that make us all feel better?
ArlettyFan
15th November 2004, 22:35
no what i said was meant to be taken literally.
I mean, assuming she has a kid now.
If history repeats itself, she will have another kid, because history repeated itself.
Misfit
15th November 2004, 23:25
Heh, pink. Good luck to them if it's true though.
Beloki@AlizeeFan
15th November 2004, 23:32
@ternuc
This hat is really the absolutly coronation, and the pink sweatshirt sets the "i-point"
But I don't want attack in no wise this man's mode consciousness ..
Everyone is different.
Eukie
16th November 2004, 01:47
Can't be too sure about pink anymore. "Gangsta" types here in the US's "Dirty South" as they call it have taken a massive presence in pink all of a sudden, I'd laugh if I wasn't so certain that wasn't a good idea.
But hey, good luck to Jerry... pioneer in men's fashion "Clothes you would never wear..." Or for me... clothes you wore in the 80's ;)
AKMS
16th November 2004, 02:54
:D :D :D
Hey fiends! I love all of you... :mrgreen: Your humour and irony at this "interest" situation shows that you "guys from my platoon"... I didn't expect that some of my thoughts about "this-strange-pink-and-always-smiling-guy" will be yours also.. And it is really ridiculous.. I hold a bet, any person at a forum costs ten Jeremies in his best clothes...
btw I think best type of Jerry is: Army camouflage, clean boots, short-haired, yeah, always pull-up trousers... and non-smiling drilled face :D , and of course broom in is hands... muhaha!!
mot
16th November 2004, 03:35
Well Alizée, I'm still not convinced tho. But if it's true, I'm very happy for you and Jérémy.
I'm pretty sad tho, on my part. Too much change for me to handle.
So consider me on "pending status".
Mulligan
16th November 2004, 09:41
Thanks for the scans and the translation.
Thank you guys.
Petsku1
16th November 2004, 15:41
I still strongly doubt she likes to read all these personal stuff from Voici, true
or not. Especially when her mom is in it too and then they're mocking her and
Jeremy. :x
Joseph
16th November 2004, 15:50
Can't be too sure about pink anymore. "Gangsta" types here in the US's "Dirty South" as they call it have taken a massive presence in pink all of a sudden, I'd laugh if I wasn't so certain that wasn't a good idea.
But hey, good luck to Jerry... pioneer in men's fashion "Clothes you would never wear..." Or for me... clothes you wore in the 80's ;)
raflz
canada ain't the dirty south buddy
Jaycubed
16th November 2004, 20:25
quick note on the pink...
others can't carry it off at all, but people like Jeremy...and me 8) . We can, so leave us alone ok! :lol:
but seriously i dislike how the press seems to cover this treating it all so unseriously and trvially, ah well it does annoy me but i'm not gonna let it get to me...not too much anyway, i'm sure Lili and those around her are strong and clever enough to ignore it.
Orion
16th November 2004, 21:42
It must be anoying for Alizée to be hounded by the media and talked about like she isn't even there. That's probably why she is so sad/serious looking in those articles.
Jaycubed and pink hats . . . . . It's always the quiet ones. hehe :boff:
ArlettyFan
16th November 2004, 22:13
are you really from corisca???? :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:
Orion
16th November 2004, 23:15
I am from Italy, but I can speak and understand Corsican because it is so close to my own southern dialect. I will move there once my schooling is done. I'm learning French now and expect to be speaking French within 1 yr. Currently, I'm in Toronto, Canada, a great city!
tern
17th November 2004, 00:01
Orion I could watch your sig .jpg all day, mesmerizing...
AKMS
17th November 2004, 01:58
what means "mesmerizing"?
Max_07s
17th November 2004, 02:11
its very funny see jeremy wear that pink hat...eheheh..he look like a girl.. :mrgreen:
Jimmyboy
17th November 2004, 02:59
Could anyone fill me in on the evidence for this article if there is any coz I really can't be bothered with speculative stories just to shift a few extra copies of a magazine.
Has it even been 100% confirmed that their marriage stands and not one of those Vegas flirtations with married life which seems to happen daily there?
Eukie
17th November 2004, 04:52
Can't be too sure about pink anymore. "Gangsta" types here in the US's "Dirty South" as they call it have taken a massive presence in pink all of a sudden, I'd laugh if I wasn't so certain that wasn't a good idea.
But hey, good luck to Jerry... pioneer in men's fashion "Clothes you would never wear..." Or for me... clothes you wore in the 80's ;)
raflz
canada ain't the dirty south buddy
I'm not in Canada, I'm Canada bound ;)
Stuck in the Southeastern US right now. No, this isn't the best vacation area. :D
[EDIT: STAY ON TOPIC! :D ]
tern
17th November 2004, 05:22
what means "mesmerizing"?
Alright son, time for your daily vocab lesson:
mesmerizing: to spellbound, enthrall, hypnotize
(for Alizee it fits perfectamente!)
Joseph
17th November 2004, 05:51
Can't be too sure about pink anymore. "Gangsta" types here in the US's "Dirty South" as they call it have taken a massive presence in pink all of a sudden, I'd laugh if I wasn't so certain that wasn't a good idea.
But hey, good luck to Jerry... pioneer in men's fashion "Clothes you would never wear..." Or for me... clothes you wore in the 80's ;)
raflz
canada ain't the dirty south buddy
I'm not in Canada, I'm Canada bound ;)
Stuck in the Southeastern US right now. No, this isn't the best vacation area. :D
Yuck. Doens't it snow there?
:/
ArlettyFan
17th November 2004, 09:19
lol, i dont know about there, but it snows where i live up north in ohio.
I think the marraige is considered real by them, i wonder if they ever got a certificate in france. If not, why wouldn't they?
Ayan
17th November 2004, 15:01
Actually I'm wondering if they are going to make real weddings in France now that the baby is on it's way.
As in .. real weddings... big... with lots of white stuff and lots of friends and family members.
I mean, the LA wedding is not legal in France. Do they want the baby to be born outside of marriage? Yeah ok, not a big deal maybe, but still.
Prometheus
17th November 2004, 17:41
"Sa carrière est au point mort?" Well isn't this promising. Umm, k I see her in a store and....(?) Lets just take it nice and slow and not jump into anything. Patience is a virtue.
Jaycubed
17th November 2004, 21:54
Well yes that is totally over the top to be honest Prom you're right there, these kinda things lead far too many people to jump to pre-emptive conclusions and really it's nothing like that at all. Everything needs time at the moment, seriously.
AKMS
18th November 2004, 01:58
ternuc,
Alright son, time for your daily vocab lesson:
mesmerizing: to spellbound, enthrall, hypnotize
(for Alizee it fits perfectamente!)
thanks, "daddy" :mrgreen:
Jimmyboy
18th November 2004, 02:49
"Sa carrière est au point mort?" Well isn't this promising. Umm, k I see her in a store and....(?) Lets just take it nice and slow and not jump into anything. Patience is a virtue.
So is that the full extent of the evidence? She went to a store which sold some kids toys? and from that we conclude that she's up the duff? I mean geez it is Xmas next month and no doubt she's got little nephews to buy gifts for. These magazines should show some restraint.
Not so much jumping the gun as jumping several small planets I feel.
Snatcher42
18th November 2004, 18:15
Na, Jimmyboy, it's a number of things: a rumor that started several weeks ago, word from a few people that know Alizée, a mention of it by Magloire on NRJ radio (who ran into her in Paris), the Voici article, and several other articles that followed in it's wake.
None of this is solid "news", but it seems more and more likely compared to your average rumor. We'll have to see, as always, but I believe it...
Lía
18th November 2004, 21:22
OMFG jag kanna inte er av den mening åt Alizée är Gravid!! JAG er glad för dem emedan om Alizée och Jeremy de/vi/du/ni är i kärlek och vilja till börja en familj , då Ha det god till dem och önskan dem alla den bäst för framtida! och ledsen till du all om du viljat till vara en pappa till en av alizée's unge , då kanske en av fullständig det kan tänkes den oändlig godfather till unge!! p.s. David talat jag nyheterna , rättvis HAR till komme på här p.s. hej
OMFG i can not believe that Alizée is Pregnant!! I am happy for them because if Alizée and Jeremy are in love and want to start a family, then GOOD LUCK to them and wish them all the best for the future! and sorry to you all if you wanted to be a daddy to one of alizée's kids, then maybe one of u could be the eternal godfather to the kid !!
p.s. david told me the news, just HAD to come on here
p.p.s. hi!
p.p.p.s. soz i wrote in swedish, i'm learning it!
p.p.p.p.s. i'm off now.... cya!
John
19th November 2004, 06:40
Alizee pregnant? Hmm I can believe it. Not enough evidence but true or not I am sure she is happy. Last I heard Jeremy is doing good careerwise so Alizee having a baby doesn't seem too bad even though she is young.
However, I find this very important and almost no one commented on it.
The rumor is circling
Tired of being the marionette of the Farmer/Boutonnat couple, Alizée has decided to cut the cord that linked her to her mentors. For her next studio album, she asked Nicola Sirkis, the singer of Indochine, to compose some songs for her. After the semi-failure of her second album Gourmandises [???], this would be the opportunity for her to get back in touch with success and find herself in Paradize...
Reliability: 85%
I don't know why that would be true. However, without Farmer/Boutonnat she would be almost starting over. It can be a good move but she will lose so many fans without those two.
I myself am a very huge MF/LB fan and to see them not involved in Alizee's career will really suck. However it will give MF more time to surprise her own fans with some new stuff if that ever comes around.
*Jaycubed nice avatar BTW :)
Snatcher42
19th November 2004, 06:47
As I mentioned before, it says some songs - which goes along with the earlier rumor that MF/LB will still be there as producers and song-writers, but that they will not be the sole contributors anymore. That would be pretty cool, imo, and it's what I'm inclined to believe at the moment... but it's all just speculation now.
ArlettyFan
19th November 2004, 11:28
mood :lighthearted:
so, who's gonna place a guess as to how many pages this thread will have before we get an answer to anything?
I am going to say 30 (wistfully)
DavidAlizée
19th November 2004, 12:35
wb to the forum John , good to see ya back.
Man from U.N.C.L.E
19th November 2004, 18:40
So, Alizee is almost "could be" pregnant according to Voici. Oh well, as I have come to realise more and more is that Alizee is just as person as are we all, and people do what they think will make them happy. So, I hope she has made the right decision for the right reasons and the same holds true to Jeremy.
P.s : Alizee, if you ever need a babysitter you only need ask :D
P.p.s: Hea Lia, whats with you stealing my trademark p.p.s system
P.p.p.s:Gotta think of something so I can out do Lia in number of p.p.s posts.
P.p.p.p.s: Nope, can't think of anything to post.
P.p.p.p.p.s: oh well, looks like she bet m.....hang, thats it I bet her :twisted:
DavidAlizée
19th November 2004, 21:35
Manfrom.. william... billie... shhhhhhhh go back to sleepy pies =)
Manu
19th November 2004, 22:09
I think Voishit got the info about Alizée being pregnant and considered the source as a very reliable one, so they published it. They could do it with old pics, but instead of that, they sent a paparazzi of them to take some pics of her as she was buying some stuff, but the important thing is what the guy who wrote the article says. What I mean is, they are not based on the pics, I'm sure of it. And another magazines have said the same thing about Lili, so I guess it finally is gonna be true.
It's not exactly the "Moi j'ai le temps!" she sings in a song of hers, but well, it is her decision.
AKMS
20th November 2004, 02:31
I'm angry with this Voici, ****ing blabbermouths... They wrote bull****, when even don't know real facts... I gonna move and tear away their legs :twisted:
DavidisaDuke
22nd November 2004, 07:00
If's she's cool with it, I'm cool with it.
loveherfromusa
22nd November 2004, 14:55
Mesmer was a pseudo-scientist who thought that magnetism could be used to affect the body. His techniques were the beginning of hypnotism. "Mesmerising" someone is what Alizée does better than anyone else in the world. She has me mesmerised every time I see her move.
Manu
23rd November 2004, 04:48
It'd be difficult not to agree with you on that, loveher, which on another hand is a great off topic rofl
Piece Of Paradise
23rd November 2004, 07:38
It could be real, it could be fake. Only one thing is certain, only time, and maybe Alizée or Jeremy or both, will tell.
Snatcher42
23rd November 2004, 10:43
Found these alternate scans of this infamous article while browsing the alizee-live forums... smaller resolution, but actually alot more detail, imo (though a bit grainy):
http://site.voila.fr/alizeefan/Presse/PgVoici1007.jpg
http://site.voila.fr/alizeefan/Presse/PgVoici2007.jpg
tern
23rd November 2004, 20:46
Observations:
1. She's not even looking at the carseats.
2. You dont buy barbies for newborns, you buy stuffed things they can put in their mouths.
3. Baby stuff usually isn't expensive or fragile enough to put in a glass case.
4. None of those bags look like "Babies R Us."
Orion
25th November 2004, 02:23
very true, ternuc.
but I still wonder about her belly and her hand, kinda. It is easy to digitally alter photos, though. But if they did all she needs is a lawyer to get a subpoena for the negatives and wala, the downfall of "voici"
tern
25th November 2004, 02:58
@Orion
Yeah, I think so too. It does kinda look like Alizee is having her hand on her stomach AND looking at it, which is something expectant mothers do. On the other hand, it looks like her mom is interested in the umbrella only, but I can't say for sure.
Orion
25th November 2004, 03:32
damn, I don't know about you, but all this stuff is giving me a headache. I blame myself too. I think we are getting to the point where it would be great to get a word from her publicist, at least. That way she would not be bothered; that is, unless she does not want anybody to know yet. Told you . . . . I'm going to the medicine cabinet :arrow:
grhawk
25th November 2004, 04:41
I'm sure they would not want this to come out now (if true) because it would hurt her dvd and cd sales.
Orion
25th November 2004, 05:47
I don't care if she has triplets; if I love her music, I will buy it. I do see your point, though: that people who are crazy about her and like her will lose interest. If that is somewhat close to your point, then I see some truth to that; some, I guess, want to love her music along with her beauty and the chance that she is still free keeps them happy; if one goes, the other follow.
on a side note, I'm happy to be speaking to someone from Iowa; one of my favourite movies is "Field of Dreams," and I do agree that it is heavenly there.
Joseph
25th November 2004, 07:00
i'm gonna look up some information ont his, something has got to be out there that disproves this . its just been too long ...
wait a minute.
okay, everyone- Listen-
Think of it this way-
Were not sitting ina cofee shop, on our way somewhere casually reading an article and going "heh" . Were studying this and reading it for days. Maybe the article was meant to sell copies like the Enquierer, and maybe that it was SUPPOSED to fade away, and only a few will say, "hey, didn't voici say.,.." . So maybe we shoudl all just foghetta bout it. ??
DavidAlizée
25th November 2004, 14:00
Yeah, i mean if she was pregnant.. more photos would have been taken by now for sure.. and havnt. I think as someone already pointed out, thoses pics may have been taking a while back when she was buying stuff for Jennys baby.
hose pics now imo are inconclusive and don't appear to offer any kind of evidence she is pregnant now. I know so many "fans" have already admitted she is pregnant but i have to admitt, i was almost 70% sure.. but now, ill have to say i don't belive this bullshit story for 1 minute now. Although, it is rather concerining that Alizée's staff have not come foward and denied this. This can also be a good strategy to neither confirm or deny and let the public keep on talking to keep her name Alive in ther media :wink:
Orion
25th November 2004, 17:19
Quote: So maybe we should all just foghetta bout it. ??
no, no Joseph; it's not foghetta bout it, it's "fugetaboutit" and you have to slightly puff up your cheeks and slightly lift you shoulders and blink your eyes when you say it. :lol:
Seriously, though, I agree with you. I have said it before that we should wait for what Lili says. Until then imo, it would be better for our hearts and minds to ignore voici. Good call!
Snatcher42
25th November 2004, 19:47
Yeah, Voici has run a few stories in the past about Mylene Farmer being pregnant (including pictures), and they were never true. However, this rumor has a bit more sustainability than those, beyond this one tabloid. For example, as BIB pointed out to me, Maglorie - a host on French TV and radio - also saw Lili shopping for baby items about a weeks ago in Paris. Some reliable members of the Alliance, such as Pinocchio, have "confirmed" it as well. So, as I've said before... personally, I'm not sure, but I'm pretty convinced about all this... and it is a bit too much evidence to just ignore all together.
Orion
25th November 2004, 19:51
I see! but I think you will agree when I say that only Lili or her publicist can put this to rest. I hope a confirmation, either way, is near.
Backinblack
25th November 2004, 19:54
Malgorie
:laughbounce:
Should be "Magloire".
Snatcher42
25th November 2004, 19:58
I see! but I think you will agree when I say that only Lili or her publicist can put this to rest. I hope a confirmation, either way, is near.
I guess - though it's also possible that nothing "official" will ever be said about this... of course, it will in that case have to become more obvious, if true, as she's seen with a child...
Pistacho
25th November 2004, 20:03
I finally belive in those rumors, Voici (even if attacks our petite Lili) always has had a part of true. But... how can a girl of 20 years old get marry and have a baby with a boy who is with her only since 2 years? (or less) :? No much sense.... :roll:
DavidAlizée
25th November 2004, 21:03
Yeah, Voici has run a few stories in the past about Mylene Farmer being pregnant (including pictures), and they were never true. However, this rumor has a bit more sustainability than those, beyond this one tabloid. For example, as BIB pointed out to me, Maglorie - a host on French TV and radio - also saw Lili shopping for baby items about a weeks ago in Paris. Some reliable members of the Alliance, such as Pinocchio, have "confirmed" it as well. So, as I've said before... personally, I'm not sure, but I'm pretty convinced about all this... and it is a bit too much evidence to just ignore all together.
Not that i am calling Pinocchio a liar, but i think ill wait untill its official. From my experince ive learned never to belive anything untill the facts are clear. In this case, coming from Alizée herself or her lawyers. Im sure the press are following her everywhere hoping for pics of Alizée buying baby stuff. If some guy seen her baby shopping.. then so would the media.
But remember this has got nothing to do with Voici... This rumor started from Et toc.
tern
25th November 2004, 21:24
Wait and see. Wait and see. Snatcher, your Thorhammer McNugget still cracks me up.
grhawk
25th November 2004, 22:26
Yep Orion that is my point. She is "Lolita" but that will change especially with all the young guys who see her as their fantasy. Great movie and the field of dreams is still there and a big tourist attraction. Every year they have a reunion of sorts with the stars from the movie there for charity i believe. Thanks for the kind words.
AKMS
26th November 2004, 01:49
In other words, Voici - factory of disinformation and shit generator...
It will be cool if we can to catch one of them, interrogate, and to tear on trophies... for edification :hate: :mrgreen:
I believe we shall hear truth early or later...
loveherfromusa
26th November 2004, 14:14
It'd be difficult not to agree with you on that, loveher, which on another hand is a great off topic rofl
Not that off topic - read posts on pages 5 and 6. I was just clarifying.
Joseph
26th November 2004, 20:09
I finally belive in those rumors, Voici (even if attacks our petite Lili) always has had a part of true. But... how can a girl of 20 years old get marry and have a baby with a boy who is with her only since 2 years? (or less) :? No much sense.... :roll:
you have the awesomist banner EVAR imo . :oops:
Snatcher42
28th November 2004, 04:27
Maglorie - a host on French TV and radio - also saw Lili shopping for baby items about a weeks ago in Paris.
Just for full disclosure on the validity of statements from that man: this (http://img95.exs.cx/img95/9470/Magloire.jpg) is Maglorie.
Draw your own conclusions.
Piece Of Paradise
28th November 2004, 10:01
Well, if the rumour is true, after slightly less than nine months later, a photo of her then will confirm it.
loveherfromusa
28th November 2004, 11:35
But it can't be true. I haven't even met her yet, how could she be pregnant?
Piece Of Paradise
28th November 2004, 11:39
Ahem, you aren't the only man in this world, you know.
ArlettyFan
30th November 2004, 04:21
for the record, I am going to side with loveherfromtheusa on this one. He is the only one for her.
Snatcher42
30th November 2004, 04:51
for the record, I am going to side with loveherfromtheusa on this one. He is the only one for her.
Oh don't say that - he's married. We wouldn't want Alizée to become a home-wrecker now would we?
Anyway... enough with the silliness - this is the news forum! :cheesy:
loveherfromusa
1st December 2004, 13:07
for the record, I am going to side with loveherfromtheusa on this one. He is the only one for her.
Oh don't say that - he's married. We wouldn't want Alizée to become a home-wrecker now would we?
Anyway... enough with the silliness - this is the news forum! :cheesy:
But we can still have fun. :D
Piece Of Paradise
4th December 2004, 09:45
Maybe. But not too much fun.
Aramis
11th December 2004, 02:46
god Ive been away for a long time but I thought i would put my 2 cents in I think if its true then great, me and my Girlfriend have not long ago had a baby Girl and she is the apple of my eye. congrats Alizée
Piece Of Paradise
12th December 2004, 10:29
Welcome back to the forum, Aramis.
Yeah, having a baby is a great thing. But for Alizée's case, officially it's not confirmed yet.
Aramis
12th December 2004, 19:43
maybe I am wrong to think like this or maybe it is the rest of the world, all of us on this forum and many others who are yet to discover this forum enjoy her music and I can't see what would be the problem if she was having a baby.
If anything it can open her up to a total diffrent market. As you said pieceofparadise, its not official thats why I would like to state that I think what ever happens it is great.
Thank you for your welcome its strange how things can get side tracked.
DavidAlizée
12th December 2004, 21:50
maybe I am wrong to think like this or maybe it is the rest of the world, all of us on this forum and many others who are yet to discover this forum enjoy her music and I can't see what would be the problem if she was having a baby.
If anything it can open her up to a total diffrent market. As you said pieceofparadise, its not official thats why I would like to state that I think what ever happens it is great.
Thank you for your welcome its strange how things can get side tracked.
If you can't see a problem.. then i guess you don't feel the way i do, an many others.
ArlettyFan
12th December 2004, 23:27
well we can think of the reasons having a child is good for you. I'm sure it has its good and bad points. I personally think that having a baby helps keep a person a little grounded, down to earth, on their feet.
Kensei
13th December 2004, 21:32
Aramis my good man I see you side but I also see the fact that most of the members have stronger feelings for Alizée other than her music, but I do think that is right with what you said on just a music base it shouldnt affect it. I guess time will tell
tern
14th December 2004, 02:41
Aramis my good man I see you side but I also see the fact that most of the members have stronger feelings for Alizée other than her music, but I do think that is right with what you said on just a music base it shouldnt affect it. I guess time will tell
That would be fine if Alizee was popular just for her music. But with Alizee the personal attraction factor is huge for many of her fans. Can't blame them, of course. Obivously, a pregnancy would have an affect on that.
Kensei
15th December 2004, 00:49
ternuc that is exatly what I ment in my last post, and I would agree that the petsonal atraction is a huge factor as it was and still is for me like the many others, I guess it is a case of each to there own
MetalicGuy
16th December 2004, 16:11
Well.. i think she will be beautiful even after her pregnancy... :D
Adeptus
17th December 2004, 01:05
Hello, and:
From what I could gather, it seems as if Voici ranks very low on the credibility scale, yet some seem to give credence to the rumors of Alizée's pregnancy; surely this is not based on the Voici article and pictures alone, is it?
It is my understanding that Alizée was a big hit when she first arrived on the music scene then she sort of disappeared for a while, but then she had a big come back with the DVD and so on. Has there been a period of absence between this comeback and the reports of her pregnancy?
I'm a total noob when it comes to Alizée, but I've become very interested, very quickly - she just has so much charisma!
I would greatly appreciate it if some folks could give a quick recap for myself and any other newbies that happen to stumble across this rumor. Specifically, I have two questions:
1. What other evidence is there to support the rumors of her pregnancy?
2. Has she be absent from the spotlight for a significant amount of time since the DVD? When was her last interview/public appearance?
Much obliged.
Snatcher42
17th December 2004, 02:25
Welcome to the forum!
1. What other evidence is there to support the rumors of her pregnancy?
A few things... nothing extraordinarily conclusive, but enough to lend more credence to this rumor than usual. First, Alizée has always mentioned her desire to be a young mother (in earlier interviews, she usually said she wanted a child at 22 - the age her mother had her. In more recent interviews, that age dropped down to 20). Second, it appears as if she and Jérémy moved into a larger apartment in Paris recently. Third, the Voici articles and pictures. Forth, a French TV and radio personality (Magloire) ran into her shopping for baby products in a Parisian store. And last, word of mouth from reputable webmasters and people close to Alizée and/or Jérémy.
2. Has she be absent from the spotlight for a significant amount of time since the DVD? When was her last interview/public appearance?
It's not so much since the DVD (that just came out in October), but rather since the end of her tour last January. Her last print interview was ages ago (the Tribu one from October was a reprint of old questions)... in terms of TV appearances, these are her last few:
2003-12-31 - Performance - Medley (Les Vainqueurs)
2004-01-03 - Lollytop Interview (Canal J)
(2004-01-17 - Last date of tour)
2004-05-17 - Performance - L'important c'est d'aimer with Natasha St. Pier (Pour Laurette FR3)
2004-05-22 - Performance - Formi Formidable with Jenifer (Bon Anniversaire Charles)
She also made a non-televised appearance at Lyon on 2004-05-16 (L'Alizé).
Since then, nada. The only promotion for the DVD was the Amelie music video shown on TV.
But keep in mind that this is pretty normal for an artist between albums (Gourmandises was late 2000, MCE was early 2003, and there was a similar break in late 2002 as well). The only unusual thing, imo, is the minimal promotion for the DVD... and of course all the rumors about a change in style and/or writers... but on that issue we'll just have to wait and see what happens: most likely when she returns sometime in 2005 or 2006.
Adeptus
17th December 2004, 02:54
Wow - good recap, S42.
That does give some food for thought. Thanks!
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