NFL/American/Canadian Football Discussion [Merged]

[banishedbayou]

American football haters please refrain from trolling.
GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What teams will go to the superbowl?

[Jaycubed]

Baltimore....I hope :p

but realistically...Philly and New England is the Superbowl...man i'd so hope so

[banishedbayou]

Every year I keep thinking that Philly is going to make it. Then they choke...

[Joseph]

Yay go Texas. Although I don't like football pep rallies are fun. :)

[Moco]

Well, I'm a Carolina and Oakland fan and it doesn't look good for either team so far. :(

[banishedbayou]

Im just a little aggrivated that dallas wasted their first draft pick. Julius Jones broke his shoulder and is out for the season

[Moco]

Yeah I know how you feel, but that's just the nature of the sport. Carolina lost Steve Smith to a broken leg which they said will take at least 8 weeks to recover from. After that, probably rehab. So they'll be lucky to get him back by season's end. Hopefully, their other receivers can pick up the slack.

[John]

Eagles definatly...that is if they dont choke on the championship game again.

[banishedbayou]

Well Jamal Lewis of the Ravens plead guilty but will most likely avoid jail.

http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3054282

[squeaky ladida]

New England Patriots

maybe it's because I'm from there :P

wooooooo!!!

[Z3R0]

i am an oakland fan even though they are rivals with my home team the chiefs....i think the raiders will get close to the championship but they wont win it

[American_Guy]

Carolina Panthers! I wrote a book on why I think they're going to get back to the Super Bowl again this offseason. I'll post it once I restart my computer. It's messing up right now. :evil:

[American_Guy]

Ah, here we go...

Remember that I wrote this well before the start of the season, so some stuff will sound a little odd. I just wanted to show you guys how much dedication I have to the Panthers. 8) The problem so far this year hasn't been the fact that the Panthers are playing bad, because we really haven't been. What we have been doing though is turning the ball over. We have a -5 turnover ratio on the year... ugh. I think we'll fix that though, and Davis should be playing against Denver on Sunday, so that's good.


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If there's one word I want to use to describe our team this season, it's balance. I think we're the most balanced team in the league. Even though we were bested by the Patriots last year I think it was more because of a lack of experience that we lost, rather than the Patriots just being better than us. Because both teams were very evenly matched as we saw.

John Fox and Dan Henning have said many times that they're going to trust Jake Delhomme a lot more this season, and for good reason. We will still be mainly a running team, but the old saying that "if you get an early lead on the Panthers they can't beat you" is true no longer. Our WR's are pretty damn good as well. The Panthers aren't even close to being one dimensional any longer. With Davis and Foster on the ground we can come at teams with a powerful north/south runner or a fast and agile east/west runner. Brad Hoover is also developing and is becoming one of the better FB's in the league. Davis put up monster numbers all year last year, and in just one season became the best RB we've ever had. He broke every single season record that prior Panthers RB's put up before him. He should have another huge season, even with Foster having increased carries. And Foster put up solid numbers too for the amount of carries he had. He really stepped it up and showed how much heart he had in the playoffs. The greatest 1 yard TD run I've ever seen was just incredible, and he also had that awesome TD run in the Super Bowl. I think we can all expect to see great plays from our two RB's all year long.

We also have a lot of ways to come at teams in the passing game. We have a fast gamebreaker in Steve Smith, a strong possession WR in Moose, a clutch 3rd down WR in Proehl, and a young versatile WR in Keary Colbert. Smith had a breakout season, and it was only his third year in the league. He's clearly our best WR and he should be seeing the ball just as much, if not more, this season. He's extremely explosive and once he gets going down field it's pretty much impossible to catch him. He also plays as a return man. Moose catches a lot of flack for never quite putting up consistent enough numbers to reach his expectations, but he has always been a good WR for us and he really showed us a lot last season. His 88 yard TD reception broke a Super Bowl record, and he made big plays like that all year, although not quite that big. There are so many instances where Proehl completely saved our asses last season. He grabbed some balls that I thought couldn't be caught for sure. The man is almost 100% though. If you throw a ball his way he'll come up with it as long as it comes close enough for him to grab. He's getting older, but he's still taking the hits like a young guy and living to tell about it. Delhomme has also proven that he has quite an arm and is also elusive in the pocket. Many times last year he threw, and completed passes, which were thrown across his body when he had to. That's one of the toughest things for a QB to do. Plus he has all the intangibles. Delhomme is a natural leader, he's great under pressure, and he doesn't let mistakes get him down.

Delhomme is a guy who is tough on his teammates, but everyone loves him. He's serious about his job, but he enjoys the hell out of it, and that energy spreads to the other players. He's a firecracker too, he gets so excited on each play, and our guys love that about him. When he came in during the Jacksonville game at halftime and we were down by 17 he said to the offense, "get your ****in heads up, we're going to win the game!" He just spreads confidence to all the other guys. Not only does the offense not want to let him down, but the defensive players want to make sure they get him the ball back quick. Delhomme trusts his teammates and they trust him. He's not afraid to put a game on his shoulders, he's not afraid to take the blame for anything, and he's not afraid to get on to other players if they're not living up to their potential. The think I love most about Jake though is that he loves being put in the situation to have to lead a game tying or winning drive. We won 8 games by 3 points last year after having a 4th quarter tying or winning drive. Most of that is thanks to Jake.

And before anyone criticizes the Panthers for having a lot of close games, let me just say that I don't think that should be looked at as a bad thing, but rather as a good thing. The ability to win close games is something most teams aren't able to do all year long. We sure weren't able to win the close ones a couple of years ago, but a lot of things finally fell into place for us this past season. And just because we barely won a lot of our games doesn't mean we were struggling against those teams. Our offense wasn't designed to blow teams out. We used the running game to wear out the clock and opposing defenses, that's why so many of our games at similar results. The fact that we were winning games by close margins meant that our game plan was running smoothly. But I'll also say that this shouldn't be the case this season, because we'll be opening up the passing game more. We shouldn't have as many close games, but I won't mind if we do, because I love a great game. And I just love hearing "cardiac cats."

Our o-line is the biggest question mark on the team. But hey, QB was the biggest question mark going into last season and look how that turned out. Jordan Gross will play great at the LT position, Mitchell is great at center, and Adam Meadows will fit in perfectly at the RT position. But our guards are the men in question. Claridge is projected to start at the LG spot. He's a good player we picked up, but he's going to have to really step up his game like Jeno James did last year. The LG spot is key for many of our bread and butter plays that we run. Bruce Nelson should be starting at RG. We know he has the talent (drafted him in the 2nd round, he started at C for Iowa two seasons ago), but he has been injured for a few months now. We need to make sure he heals up and is ready to go. Brzenski or Reyes will back him up if he can't go at the start of the season though. I think our o-line will come together just like it did last year though.

As for our d-line? Best in the league. Also the best depth in the league. Julius Peppers at LE, Kris Jenkins at DT, Brentson Buckner at DT, and Mike Rucker at RE. Wow, do I have to say anything more? They're all young except for Buckner and are continually improving their game. The depth at DT consists of Shane Burton and Kendall Moorehead. Shane is a veteran and is a slower but more poweful version of Buckner. Moorehead is a rookie this year and is improving daily, he came up big in the last couple of games of the season. The depth at DE consists of Al Wallace and Kemp Rasmussen and Kavika Pittman. Al Wallace could start on almost any other D-line in the league. He is the backup for Peppers and comes up with huge plays every time Peppers needs a rest. Rasmussen comes up with big plays when he comes in too. Pittman was injured this past season, but he should be ready to go in preseason.

Our linebackers didn't perform as well as a whole last season as they did two seasons ago, but that's really only because of injuries. All is well now though. Sam Mills is still coaching and Mark Fields is suiting up for practices. Fields was our best LB in 2002, so that shows how important he is to this team. He was brought in by Jack Del Rio, and he wants to get back out there and prove he can still play at a high level. Dan Morgan has definitely been injury prone, but he's also very talented. It's obvious that our defense isn't quite the same without him. He brings a lot with his mind and body every week. He's the spark on our defense. Will Witherspoon is probably our most improved player on the entire team. He led the team in tackles and even becomes the MLB when Morgan is injured. He was our third round pick a year ago and he has played like a first rounder. He's extremely fast and is hella good at both run stopping and coverage. He's one of the most complete LB's we've ever had. We also picked up some good players. They are Brandon Short and Jessie Armstead. Short is young and talented, and Armstead brings the experience. Both will be solid and reliable backups all season.

Our secondary have always been picked on by the media and other players. However, once teams get on the field and play against them it's a different story. Our guys are very underrated. I'm not going to lie though, we probably won't be as good in the secondary as we were last year. The main reason is because of Deon Gran't departure. He was really becoming a great FS, and we just weren't able to resign him. He'll be missed. Colin Branch is the lead man to replace him right now, but the starting position will be fought for in preseason my Tillman and him. Neither are great players, but either will play adequately. Mike Minter will help out whoever earns the job though. He is an extremely talented veteran and is a top 10 safety in this league. Terry Cousin and Reggie Howard are both gone now too. Howard was starting and Cousing was playing nickel corner. We'll miss their competitiveness and everything else they bring, but I think we picked up a great man in Hawkins. We also have Shaw. Ricky Manning Jr. is clearly our best CB right now. He came on very strong at the end of the season and really made a name for himself. This is only going to be his second season, so I see a bright future ahead of him. Chris Gamble should be able to slide into the starting spot eventually this season, but either Hawkins or Shaw should start at the beginning of the season. We should learn a lot in preseason about Gamble though. That's where Manning Jr. really excelled last year.

One of the most important things on a football team is their special teams. Everyone always overlooks special teams. I mean look at us. The Panthers won many games last year by three points or less, and we wouldn't have one those games if we didn't have Kasay. The 49ers lost a lot of close one's just because they didn't have a reliable kicker. The NFL is such a close and competitve league that one good kicker can make the difference. The same goes for punters. If you don't have a good punter to get you out of a tight spot, then you're going to be in trouble. Todd Sauerbrun is one of the best in the league, and he has helped us out numerous times. The man is so good that we franchised him last season! And let's not forget about the other guys. Steve Smith and Rod Smart are among the best returners in the league. And Jarod Cooper and Smart are excellent runners. They usually wrap the return man up pretty quickly, or force him to fair catch. Plus we're also great at blocking kicks.

John Fox was arguably the best coach last season. He's arguably the best coach of the past two years. Look at what he's done - brought a 1-15 team to the Super Bowl in two seasons. He came in here with a plan, and that was to rebuild the defense. In 2002 he succeeded at that. And last offseason he set out, along with Hurney our GM, to rebuild the offense. With key acquisitions like Davis and Delhomme we did that. Now our team is complete once again, and ready to keep performing at a championship level.

Not one player on this team has ever doubted Fox since he came here. Everyone bought into his system and now it's really paying off for the team. Every guy works hard at practice and we have great chemistry on our team. A great shot I saw last year during the Eagles game at home was Steve Smith encouraging Kasay on the sidelines after his missed FG's. He was telling him to hang in there and giving him a pat on the back. Our guys want to win, they want to do it for themselves, the coaches, and us the fans. They go all out every week and play like they're in the superbowl. We finished 5-1 in the NFC South last season, after going 1-5 the year before, and I'm so proud of my team for doing that. The first step to having a successful year is being successful in your division. We need to continue playing hard and we'll win games.

I would just like to note that I think the Panthers have one of the best offenses in the league. If not for the balance, then for the explosiveness. We had more 40+ yard plays than the Colts did last season. You add that to a great defense, a great special teams, and a great coach and you have quite a football team. You also have a team that is very balanced as I've said. And that's why I think we'll be getting back to the super bowl next year. Because the other thing to remember is that we have a very young roster and these guys are going to be playing together for quite a while.

Looking through everything it's obvious that we've made a lot of changes in the past couple of years. And this season there are going to be changes as well. It's very appropriate that our stadium has also been renamed to Bank of America Stadium. It's also great that we get to play a home game to start off the season again, and on MNF. When Muhsin Muhammad came to Carolina he told Jerry Richardson that the Panthers would win a Super Bowl sometime in their first 10 years of existance. This season will be the 10th year of our existance, and we're ready to mike that final push to win the Super Bowl. We now have experience too.

[banishedbayou]

PICK THE WINNERS

Cleveland at Pittsburgh, 1:00 pm cleveland
Detroit at Atlanta, 1:00 pm Atlanta
Miami at New England, 1:00 pm New England
Minnesota at Houston, 1:00 pm Minnesota
N.Y. Giants at Dallas, 1:00 pm Dallas
Oakland at Indianapolis, 1:00 pm Indianapolis
Tampa Bay at New Orleans, 1:00 pm Tampa Bay
Buffalo at N.Y. Jets, 4:05 pm Jets
Jacksonville at San Diego, 4:05 pm Jacksonville
Arizona at San Francisco, 4:15 pm San Francisco (this is their week)
Carolina at Denver, 4:15 pm Denver
St. Louis at Seattle, 4:15 pm St. Louis
Baltimore at Washington, 8:30 pm Baltimore

Tennessee at Green Bay, 9:00 pm Tennesee

[American_Guy]

Cleveland at Pittsburgh, 1:00 pm
Detroit at Atlanta, 1:00 pm
Miami at New England, 1:00 pm
Minnesota at Houston, 1:00 pm
N.Y. Giants at Dallas, 1:00 pm
Oakland at Indianapolis, 1:00 pm
Tampa Bay at New Orleans, 1:00 pm
Buffalo at N.Y. Jets, 4:05 pm
Jacksonville at San Diego, 4:05 pm
Arizona at San Francisco, 4:15 pm
Carolina at Denver, 4:15 pm
St. Louis at Seattle, 4:15 pm
Baltimore at Washington, 8:30 pm
Tennessee at Green Bay, 9:00 pm

[Moco]

Hey American_Guy. Thanks for that write-up on the Panthers. You really do seem like a dedicated fan. I admit, I wasn't a Panthers fan until their incredible season last year. I just hope they can put it all together again and start winning. But one thing that sucks for me and Panther fans around the country is that they don't nationally broadcast many of the games. They did the MNF game, which was cool, but I think their next national broadcast is in December against Atlanta. Meanwhile, it seems like there's a St Louis game on TV every week. :roll:

[American_Guy]

Yeah, I hate how the league gives some teams all the good games. Kansas City, St. Louis, and Green Bay all have atleast three MNF games. That's just not fair. Especially since they get MNF games every year. And besides this year, the last time the Panthers had a MNF game was in 2000 I think. The NFL really needs to rework the way they decide which games are nationally televised.

[vivaL´LiZe]

Jaaa, Dallas Cowboys of course, Viva TEXAS


The NFL really needs to rework the way they decide which games are nationally televised.


I believe it too.

[Jaycubed]

oh btw...American guy?

The Panthers Will not win the Championship. As simple as that

Many teams look more equipped to win it all. New England for one, they lose Ted Washington...and, oh let's go 3-0 again! and they can set the all time record for the longest winning streak if they beat Miami tomorrow. and this is miami so that's win 19 in the bag.

Philly are looking literally On Fire (well not literally but ya know) McNabb now has Terrell Owens and he has more TD catches this season than all of the Eagles WR's had for the WHOLE of last season already!! Plus Brian Westbrook is looking really good too. Atlanta are 4-0 and as long as Vick is healthy, they'll just win Games.

Indianapolis are gunning them all down and teams like NYG are even 3-1 and looking kinda impressive, and Jacksonville's defence is like the Carolina one of last year. But basically, Steve Smith is basically out for the season and Jake Delhomme is just not in that great bracket...so many wild throws, two in particular against Atlanta. Davis is injured a lot and Foster though good, can't keep it going all the time and i can't see Carolina being much of a factor at all really. Sorry American guy, but i think that they have a bit to do before they can challenge again. Just look out for Jacksonville, they could be the sleeper of them all.

[banishedbayou]

I have serious doubts about Indianapolis. Peyton Manning has consistantly choked in big games. Philly has consisantly choked in the NFC championship but I think Terrell Owens was the missing link. I am going with Philly and New England.

[banishedbayou]

That cowboy game was terrible. Running into the kicker and getting two personal fouls on one defensive stand is just apalling.

[Jaycubed]

Guys keep this thread alive!!

Just seen Jeff Garcia to Andre Davis for 99 yards!!! :P :P :P

only the tenth time ever!! excellent stuff

[banishedbayou]

Once again I was disgusted by the Dallas Cowboys. They were up 20-17 with under three minutes to play. Testaverde fumbled and Pittsburgh converted it into a touchdown a few plays later. Absolutely disgusting!!!!!!!!!! :evil:

[Jaycubed]

yeah but Ben Roethlisberger is the real deal too....Dallas got beaten by a good team. Seriously, Pittsburgh is actually good.

[bvmjethead]

I've been a Redskins fan all my life. I'm not going to stop now even though they're like 2 and 3........ :cry:

[banishedbayou]

Who do you guys think is the greatest running back of all time.

My List.

1. Barry Sanders
2. Jim Brown
3. Walter Payton
4. Emmitt Smith
5. OJ Simpson

[bvmjethead]

Just based on the numbers game John Riggins has got to be on that list.......

[banishedbayou]

Just based on the numbers game John Riggins has got to be on that list.......

Yes, he should be in the top 20. MAYBE, he belongs in the top 10. You would have to be out of your mind to put him in the top 5.

[Jaycubed]

erm O.J. Simpson anyone?

i mean SURELY....he's gotta be in that top five. Orenthal was the man, he rushed over 2000 yards in a 14 game season...the most yards a game in any season...he was a pure machine

[banishedbayou]

erm O.J. Simpson anyone?

i mean SURELY....he's gotta be in that top five. Orenthal was the man, he rushed over 2000 yards in a 14 game season...the most yards a game in any season...he was a pure machine

You have a good point. I would possibly place him at #5. My top four will remain in the top four.

I still believe that Barry Sanders is the greatest running back of all time. No one did more with less. Barry played on some horrific teams and if he chose too he could have the all time leading rusher.

[Jaycubed]

you can't really argue with your top four 8)

maybe the order, but then, wow it's hard to argue with that...but O.J. has to be there

[banishedbayou]

you can't really argue with your top four 8)

maybe the order, but then, wow it's hard to argue with that...but O.J. has to be there

I changed number five to OJ. You said you could argue the order of the top four. What order would you put them in?

[Jaycubed]

i really dunno man, i mean Emmitt is the all time leading Rusher, some say Jim Brown was the best ever but how can you leave Sanders off the number 1 spot? then i say...Payton as low as 3? so many conflicts here, you've given me a pleasant dilemma :wink:

[banishedbayou]

i really dunno man, i mean Emmitt is the all time leading Rusher, some say Jim Brown was the best ever but how can you leave Sanders off the number 1 spot? then i say...Payton as low as 3? so many conflicts here, you've given me a pleasant dilemma :wink:

Well I won't put Jim Brown at #1 because I feel he is a bit overrated. In Jim Browns last year he averaged 5.3 yds per carry. The next year a running back by the name of Leroy Kelly avg 5.5 yds per carry. Two out of the next three years after Jim Brown's departure Leroy Kelly lead the league in rushing. The browns running game didn't miss a beat. This is because the browns had an amazing offensive line. One of Jim Browns biggest strengths was his size and power. That was in the sixties when the avg footplayer was a lot smaller than they are today. I have serious doubts as to whether Jim Brown could be as effective now as he was in the sixties. Barry Sanders never had a great offensive line to run behind. The Detroit Lions were pretty much terrible most of the years he played, but he still shined as the nfl's premier running back.

I didn't put Emmitt at #1 because he played behind one of the most dominant offensive lines of all time. Barry Sanders could have been the all time leading rusher if he hadn't retired so early.

Walter Payton wasn't number 1 on my list because he played on some good bears teams.

As I stated earlier. Barry Sanders did more on bad teams than the other running backs did on good teams.

[Goodfella]

E-A-G-L-E-S
EAGLES are my favorite team, feel bad sometimes not being a skins fan in DC

[banishedbayou]

An eagles patriots super bowl seems very possible at this time.

[Goodfella]

o yes that would b excellent

[bvmjethead]

I always look for something in writing.

http://football.about.com/od/nflhistory/a/alltimerushing.htm

NFL All-Time Rushing Leaders
From James Alder,

* List is current as of the start of the 2004 NFL season.

1. Emmitt Smith - 17,403
2. Walter Payton - 16,726
3. Barry Sanders - 15,269
4. Eric Dickerson - 13,259
5. Tony Dorsett - 12,739

6. Jerome Bettis - 12,353
7. Jim Brown - 12,312
8. Marcus Allen - 12,243
9. Franco Harris - 12,120
10. Thurman Thomas - 12,074

11. Curtis Martin - 11,669
12. John Riggins - 11,352
13. O.J. Simpson - 11,236
14. Marshall Faulk - 11,020
15. Ricky Watters - 10,741

16. Ottis Anderson - 10,324
17. Eddie George - 9,957
18. Earl Campbell - 9,407
19. Jim Taylor - 8,597
20. Terry Allen - 8,455

John Riggins is # 12 and ahead of O.J. :shock:

[banishedbayou]

=Riggens has dropped to 13. Numbers are not everything though. Notice I put sanders as number 1 and emmitt at 4.

[bvmjethead]

=Riggens has dropped to 13. Numbers are not everything though. Notice I put sanders as number 1 and emmitt at 4.

Did Marshall Faulk go ahead of him last night on Monday Night Football?

[banishedbayou]

Faulk is sitting 11,617 according to nfl.com

[banishedbayou]

Dallas traded Antonio Bryant for quincy morgan. What were they thinking. He was starting to come around.

[Jaycubed]

But Bryant had fallen out with Keyshawn and Parcells. Even though Bryant could become a star for the Browns if he keeps his head, i still think it wasn't a bad trade for both sides, we'll have to see how it turns out.

[banishedbayou]

Well the cowboys one and the patriots lost. WooooooooHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[Moco]

It's about time the Pats lost! So, they didn't have Corey Dillon or Ty Law... I thought they were deep enough to sustain injuries, but it looks like the Steelers just dominated the game. 4 total yards rushing for the Pats? LOL. And time of possession was heavily in favor of Pittsburgh. But of course, Roethlesberger is just turning out to be a monster!

[HampsterOnSpeed]

ehhhhh....may I ask...what's football? :D heheh...just kidding...I don't know much about football...all I know for sure is that Raiders suck really really bad...

[American_Guy]

DAMNIT ALL! INJURIES SUCK!

[Jaycubed]

^U the Carolina fan?

cos if so, yep injuries have just decimated your team...

the story of the week for me? If Vick plays like he did on Sunday, are the falcons genuine contenders for the big prize?

[a.c. ajaccio]

I think the falcons rely on vick far too much, sure look what happened when he broke his leg - they had an awful season. Its hard to look past the eagles this time IMO.

[Jaycubed]

yes yes you are right....and the falcons really do rely on Vick totally...but if he doesn't break his leg.... 8) 8) 8)

Magic happens :P

[banishedbayou]

Lets see who is jumping on the Pittsburgh bandwagon as superbowl contenders?

Eagles-Pittsburgh superbowl anyone?

[Jaycubed]

erm

maybe!!

But then please please don't rule out New England...they destroyed St Louis with Troy brown, yes Troy Brown the wide Receiver, at Cornerback. And the other corner? Earthwind Moreland! who's ever heard of him!

And btw...Ravens 5-3 without Todd Heap, Ogden for half the season, Jamal for 2 games...we are only gonna get better, watch out everyone else

[Beloki@AlizeeFan]

Iam not a Footballfan, but the Buckaneer's are well. all in front Michael Pittman, his arms are larger than the thighs of my aunt!!

:showoff:

[Jaycubed]

hey anyone here think that Peyton Manning WILL beat both Marino's records of TD's and Yards in a Season? or just one of them? Or none at all??

Personally i think he'll beat the TD Mark of Marino...50 exactly would be nice

but then it's only cos he has 6 receivers of real quality, i think there are better QB's in the league than Manning (McNabb, Favre, Brady) but Manning's unbelievable receiving corps is the main reason for his huge yardage.

Harrison, Wayne, Stokely, Pollard, Clark, and Edge James great hands from RB....surely that's a huge reason, anyone disagree?? i want some discussion here?

What about Terrell Owens's antics over the last few weeks and Monday night as well??

Speak Speak!! :P :P

[tern]

Go Seachickens! (too short?)

[American_Guy]

Panthers can still and will make the playoffs biatches!

Wrap up of Sunday's win. (http://panthers.com/gameday/)

[Jaycubed]

hey you're right, i've been impressed with their stability through injuries, who thought they'd win 3 more games this season, let alone three in a row...though i still think they are done for this season.

Sorry!

[ArlettyFan]

The browns are going to win, i have faith

go cleveland :wink:

[Moco]

Well, Carolina beat New Orleans to make it 4 wins in a row. In the weak NFC, they've still got a decent chance of making the playoffs, even with a sub .500 record of 5-7.

And Sean, the Ravens lost at home.... to the Bengals! Shameful! :P

[tern]

Why do the Seahawks suck so much? It is sad but I don't really care like my bro.

[Moco]

Heh, that was an exciting game though. But I have to admit that the Seahawks should've won because that touchdown by Keyshawn Johnson shouldn't have counted. He only got one foot down before going out of bounds. The play should've gone to instant replay but amazingly it didn't. Still, that's no excuse for letting the Cowboys back in the game with so little time left.

[tern]

I know, the replay booth really coughed that one up. It's the second time they've given up a 2 possession lead with less than half a quarter to go this year. Other time was first game against Rams, that was pathetic.

[Jaycubed]

And Sean, the Ravens lost at home.... to the Bengals! Shameful! :P

can u believe that??? 27-26??

allowing 27 against Cincy? ok well Cincy have a pretty wicked offense now and Chad Johnson is the 3rd leading receiver in yards this year and people said he was having a bad season, but with Kelley washington making plays and T.J. Houshmanzadeh making 10 grabs too on Sunday...blah, still how can the d let up 27? They only scored 26 cos of D and Special teams. 8)

[banishedbayou]

Heh, that was an exciting game though. But I have to admit that the Seahawks should've won because that touchdown by Keyshawn Johnson shouldn't have counted. He only got one foot down before going out of bounds. The play should've gone to instant replay but amazingly it didn't. Still, that's no excuse for letting the Cowboys back in the game with so little time left.

I guess you guys totally forgot or overlooked that keyshawn was being pushed out of bounds before he landed. In that case it still counts as him landing in bounds... It still would have been a touchdown.

I have to give it to the rookie Julius Jones. He had 30 carries for 198 yards and 3 touchdowns. That was his second straight game with over 150+ yards rushing.

[Moco]

Well, the regular season is over and the playoffs are about to begin. Here's how it looks:

AFC

Denver @ Indianapolis
N.Y. Jets @ San Diego
1st Round Bye: New England & Pittsburgh

NFC

St. Louis @ Seattle
Minnesota @ Green Bay
1st Round Bye: Atlanta & Philadelphia

The AFC is going to be really interesting. I believe Indy, San Diego, New England & Pittsburgh all have a legit shot at winning the AFC title and then the Superbowl, though I'm rooting for San Diego because of the southern California connection. :P

The NFC is such a tossup and I don't even think it matters who goes to the Superbowl from that conference especially now that Terrel Owens is out for Philadelphia. It's hard to tell how they can play without him since they basically rested their starters the past 2 weeks. That said, Atlanta may be the only threat out of the NFC, but again, the champ is going to come out of the AFC.

[tern]

I can't believe my Seachickens are division champs with a 9-7 record. That is sad.

[X_Vapor_X]

I still can't believe my Buccs traded Sapp. Now their entire defence has broken down! At least they've won a championship. Hopefully, Pittsburgh will win it all this year, they deserve it.

[banishedbayou]

Pitt vs Eagles or Atlanta

[tern]

'Hawks lost to the worthless Rams 3 times this season. Pathetic.

[Dusty]

I can't believe the Seachickens lost by merely a touchdown... so close to victory. Oh well, nothin new, but it would have been nice to see them win it.

[Moco]

Heh, the very last play was like a microcosm of the Seahawk's season. Dropped passes. It's a shame that they didn't even throw to Jerry Rice that game. Sure, he made a good decoy on a few plays, but you gotta throw him the ball sometime! Why else would you acquire him in a trade mid-season?

Anyone catch Randy Moss's touchdown celebration in Green Bay? I don't see what the big fuss is and the media is acting like what he did is the end of the world. Big deal...so he fake mooned the crowd. The people in Green Bay do it for real every time the opposing team loses.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to New England vs Indy. Should be a great game! If anyone can stop Petyon Manning, it might be the Patriots.

[banishedbayou]

Post your predictions for the 2005 NFL season.

[Franka]

Oh, I've never watch American Football, I only watch rugby, when a country vs another country

[Le Fidèle]

49ers just got Smith to sign a 55 million dollar contract. O YEAH......... 3 more years and i can see a superbowl trophey in his hands!!!!!!!!
American foot ball is better to watch, but no where as fun to play as Soccer/futbol.

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

I haven't followed NFL that closely, I usually watch on the game they show here on TV every week....I like to watch the sport, but I don't have any favorites...

well, if I have to I'll go with the teams that signed a Finn to their practice squad. Atlanta Falcons (Klaus Alinen) and Oakland Raiders (Michael Quarshie) :P

[Petsku1]

that's something... first Finns to be in NFL?

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

well, they will not be able to play in the league this season, but they have a chance of playin' in the training games now before season starts

so I guess they are half way to NFL :D

[Moco]

49ers just got Smith to sign a 55 million dollar contract.
That's pretty crazy for someone who hasn't even played a game in the NFL. I guess I find it strange how in the NFL, really high draft picks will be given a HUGE contract without proving themselves on the field. As opposed to the NBA, there's a limit to the length and size of a rookie contract that gives teams the ability to see what their young players are capable of, and if they think they're worth it, will resign them to a big contract when their rookie contract is over. It's great for avoiding situations like the San Diego Chargers have with Phillip Rivers. He's got something like a $40 million contract, yet he's playing behind Drew Brees. Granted, Drew's sudden emergence as a top quarterback was somewhat of a surprise. But then they weren't able to give him a good contract, and instead franchised him because they're already paying Rivers a whole lot of money.

[Le Fidèle]

That's pretty crazy for someone who hasn't even played a game in the NFL. I guess I find it strange how in the NFL, really high draft picks will be given a HUGE contract without proving themselves on the field.

Yeah, but hes really good, and the 49ers are known to pick really good quarterbacks, steve young, joe montana, NOT jef garcia, he messed up big time.[

[Jaycubed]

Well, not exactly, Garcia wasn't exactly a flop if you compare him to Dorsey and co last season, i mean, at least under Garcia the team was competitive. You might see just how good Garcia did when you see Smith flounder this season with Brandon Lloyd as his go to guy. Though, in time Smith will be pivotal to their success, he really has potential.

Anyway predictions...Well seeing as Tedy Bruschi is out for the season for the Pats, we'll see just how much they miss him as the season rolls along, and even with Charlie Weiss and Romeo Crennel leaving for pastures new, they're the team to beat.

even so, look for the Ravens this year, Upgrades in offence with Derrick mason and their no.1 drafted WR, name escapeds me for the second, clayton? maybe, anyway...i think with those weapons along with big Clarence Moore in the redzone, it's a time to see just how efficient kyle Boller can be, hopefully with a more in tune Jamal Lewis back at HB. On Defense they've signed Samari Rolle and not lost anyone else, so they're only gonna be better, look for them to be so hard to beat.

But same old up top i think, though both the Raiders and the Vikings ended up benefitting from the Moss trade, with the Raiders now having an explosive offence with Lamont Jordan at RB and Moss and Porter etc...and the Vikes having a hugely upgraded defence and drafting Troy Williamson to replace moss too...i think both can put themselves in the playoff picture, but the Vikings to be dark horses.

[tern]

49ers just got Smith to sign a 55 million dollar contract.
That's pretty crazy for someone who hasn't even played a game in the NFL. I guess I find it strange how in the NFL, really high draft picks will be given a HUGE contract without proving themselves on the field. As opposed to the NBA, there's a limit to the length and size of a rookie contract that gives teams the ability to see what their young players are capable of, and if they think they're worth it, will resign them to a big contract when their rookie contract is over. It's great for avoiding situations like the San Diego Chargers have with Phillip Rivers. He's got something like a $40 million contract, yet he's playing behind Drew Brees. Granted, Drew's sudden emergence as a top quarterback was somewhat of a surprise. But then they weren't able to give him a good contract, and instead franchised him because they're already paying Rivers a whole lot of money.

It's especially strange because NFL players are even less likely than NBA players to turn out as a great professional player and also get injured easier (and sometimes carreer-ending early on). It just seems like too much of a gamble to me. Since the teams are so huge in football and so many players (not the starters, obviously) are walk-ons, the whole salary thing has always confused me.

[Le Fidèle]

ricky williams is goin back to the dolphines, why dosent he just take the knife out if their backs while hes there :x :x :x

[fallenONE]

Go Eagles!!!

Philly all the way

Cards, Lions, and Chargers are the other teams I am rooting for this season.....



:cheesy:

[Le Fidèle]

how sad, i dont think they'll do it this year...............cmon, man, all those teams are wildcard teams...........chargers have a crappy kicker, i think you remember that.............i hoping the niners will win in about 2-3 years.......

[higa323]

PEYTON MANNING #1 quarterback i tell you 8) they will beat the patriots this time

[Jaycubed]

lol, i didn't know there was a rule that you can only root for teams with a significant chance of winning it all La Fidele. And Nate Kaeding is the Chargers kicker, was a rookie last year, and ok, compared to Josh Scobee he's not so good, but he's not bad at all.

Saying that, i'm not rooting for them or believing they can go far (as i sit here posting this wearing my chargers jersey :P )

and as for Indy, ever heard of Defense? They better hope the corner they drafted is the real thing, cos they need to stop the pass, cos they sure won't be stopping the run this season.

[FiEsTa]

How can you like this sport :P ?

[Le Fidèle]

cause its one of the toughest sports in the world. goddamnit.
i'd like to see people go through hell week for all those who dont belive in american footbal. that crap is the hardest thing ever. i would know.
its americas past time............and its fun to watch!!!!!!!! if you know the rules.........

[FiEsTa]

I really hate it, lol ^^

[Moco]

lol, i didn't know there was a rule that you can only root for teams with a significant chance of winning it all La Fidele.
Seriously. There's a term for that type fan: bandwagon fan. True fans stick to their team through the all the highs and the lows, win or lose.

Saying that, i'm not rooting for them or believing they can go far (as i sit here posting this wearing my chargers jersey :P )
You really have a Chargers jersey? Whose is it?

[Jaycubed]

the Chargers jersey is mine, i asked for one when my uncle went to America at Christmas, in fact i asked for a Vikes shirt with Moss on...SO luckily, they were sold out, how much of a lemon i would have felt like when he got traded.

And it has Tomlinson on the back of course, cos LT is the real deal, he seriously doesn't have a weak point in his game from my perspective.

And Tamer, not liking American football is a big no no! :P It's an awesome game, of the mind mostly, but it also takes superb athletic ability and strength, it's a show, and an amazing one at that.

Back to the Jersey though, if i could have had any, i probably would have got a Ravens one with Reed on the back, that Guy can PLAY

[Le Fidèle]

lol, i didn't know there was a rule that you can only root for teams with a significant chance of winning it all La Fidele. And Nate Kaeding is the Chargers kicker, was a rookie last year, and ok, compared to Josh Scobee he's not so good, but he's not bad at all.

Saying that, i'm not rooting for them or believing they can go far (as i sit here posting this wearing my chargers jersey :P )

and as for Indy, ever heard of Defense? They better hope the corner they drafted is the real thing, cos they need to stop the pass, cos they sure won't be stopping the run this season.
true, but with all those teams he selected, you would think he might be faithfull to one. but hey...............i am, niners all the way, and they came in last place, last year.

[PayBays]

Hmmm...well i'm not such a suporter of American Football

i even don't know the rules... :oops:

[higa323]

basically its anything goes except no cheap shots or holding

but there a load of rules tho

[Le Fidèle]

LOL, true dat higa. its a hardcore, extreme, in your face, trash talkin, victory dance walkin, physical contact, messy, bloody, manly, brute force, pain and suffering, blood rushing, sacraficial, life time Game. thats everything i can think of.
its real fun once you start to watch it.

[Bizz]

Can Talk aboute the collegial football too


http://www.mytelus.com/news_images/cp_football/original/f021430.jpg

This is a Real man sport

[krazykanadian]

The B.C. Lions are the best team in the CFL !! Tabernac!

[Le Fidèle]

ahh, yes. finnaly
1st off let me start off saying

NINERS ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!

next, NINERS ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!

and last, football is dumb crazy!!!! :cheesy:

[Bizz]

Yeah Fidele

I am 100% with you San Francisco Have Real good team


GO niners

[fallenONE]

Too bad Philly is gonna win tomorrow against the niners.... :cheesy: sorri Le Fidele but I am an Eagles Fan cuz LA has no teams :cry:

[Bizz]

Foot ball is not for fat

Few guys Die in football game

because he give to many energy

[Bizz]

EAgle Win vs SF

who see the game?

[Le Fidèle]

NOOOOOO!!!!. AHHHHH!!!!
the niners got crushed. all hope is lost. . . . . . no reason. . .to live. *falls to his kneas & cries*

you win fallenONE. . . . . . . you win.

[tern]

I prefer college football by so much. My UW Huskies aren't too good lately, but I love my school too much!

[Bizz]

how make fun like bizz


drink canadian beer And wash college football with friends

and go fight english man after the game

[Le Fidèle]

lmao, english or american? american will prevail. :cheesy:

[Bizz]

Lol

No I love fight english canadian

is old quebecer tradition

[Le Fidèle]

oh, lmao. sounds fun. start a fight with an irish man, they always know how to fight.

[Bizz]

I just love foot ball

Go ALOUETTE
http://www.montrealalouettes.com//HomePage.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=1300

http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf03740wg.jpg

last year

[Le Fidèle]

HOW THE F**K did the Niners lose thier lead. this is truely dissapointment at its higest peek!!!!! for now, i nolonger associate with the niners. wait, what? niners? who are they?!?!?

[Bizz]

what happen with SF

Who Have the spec of team this year

[Le Fidèle]

NINERS SUCK!!!! how could they let a 12 point lead in the 4th slip away!!! :evil:
thats almost 2 touchdowns!!! what a disgrace!!! :evil:
so mutch for the millions of dollars on smith. *phh* go back to taho or whereever he came from!!! we should have stuck with CALS quarterback!!!

[Bizz]

I am too desapointed about Niners


Is lock montreal team is prety good This year


I drop the niners

and I falow canadian football

[Le Fidèle]

lol, i have no team for now. i cant wait for the superbowl!!!!! :cheesy: :P

[Bizz]

what is your collegial team le fidele

[Le Fidèle]

(shh) :cheesy: i'm still in hgih school :mrgreen:

but if i could pick my college team, it would be, USC, cause i live in cali, next would be CAL.

[Le Fidèle]

time to bump this thread up now that the playoffs have started. . .


by bet are the broncos. . . . . :cheesy:


although i still wish john elway was still around :cry:

[fallenONE]

Anyone excited for the Super Bowl?

I am not cuz the Eagles & Chargers arent playing :roll:

[Le Fidèle]

nah. . .

couldnt care less. . .

i'm just excited cause i get to hang out with freinds!


my bet is on the stealers. . . but i'd like to see the seakhawks win too. . . .

its gunna be a close game. . .

[tern]

Since I'm from Seattle.... GO SEAHAWKS!!!

[Le Fidèle]

HEHE,

i heard you guys might get TO next season :twisted:

[fallenONE]

You dig yourself into a deep hole when you get Owens

Just look at what happened to my Eagles :cry:

[vonstar]

lol TO is a cancer to any team he joins. Anyways, GO HAWKS!

[Moco]

I was rooting for the Panthers until they decided not to show up to play in Seattle. :roll:

Now, I'm favoring the Steelers. It'd be nice for Jerome Bettis to win a Super Bowl in his home town and end his career on a high note.

[Bizz]

THE superbowl Is comming !

[Le Fidèle]

5 more days :P

go stealers/seehawks. . .i havent made up my mind. . .


but like moco said. . it would be good for the "bus" to win in his hometown. . and end on a high note like lance armstrong!

[fallenONE]

THE superbowl Is comming !

Canadians watch it too?!

[Bizz]

THE superbowl Is comming !

Canadians watch it too?!

Ofc

all of N america

[Le Fidèle]

i'm pretty sure the rest of the world watches it too!

its just that more americans watch it that foreigners!

[Bizz]

i'm pretty sure the rest of the world watches it too!


no I asked europen

and for them The superbowl Is Strange tradition

they are retard Lol

[Le Fidèle]

FUCKING SUPERBOWL IS TODAY BABY!!!!


GET CRAZY!!!!!!!


FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tern]

Of course I'm crazy, Seattle's in it for the first time ever!! I hear random shouts of "GO HAWKS!" outside every 20 minutes or so. It's a great atmosphere here in the city. I love it. I probably will end up not sleeping.

[Le Fidèle]

^first,

congrats on toc de mac ternuc!!!

2nd - really? its their first time?
lol, i guess i'll go with the hawks then! but its going to be a good game!

3rd - OH SHIT SON!!!! T- 0700 hours!!!!

FUCK YEAH!!!!!

[Nestonia]

i'm pretty sure the rest of the world watches it too!


no I asked europen

and for them The superbowl Is Strange tradition

they are retard Lol

i watched american football yesterday at Sport 2, it was strange, i did understand nothing, i mean that i watched it but i didn´t understand what was going on, guys are running with ball :D

[Le Fidèle]

^exact same thing happened to me when i was watching australian football. . .

i was like WTF?!?!?! guys throing the ball, and then kicking it through 3 poles in the ground?!?!?!?!


football is a great sport. . .


FULL CONTACT!!!!!

[fallenONE]

wished football season lasted longer :roll:

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

Not many hours left now to the start 8)

don't rly care who wins, as long as it's great football 8) (I just hope I can stay awake, as it begins 1am here :P )

[Le Fidèle]

i heard its going to be a low scroing game. . .

:x

[tern]

i heard its going to be a low scroing game. . .

:x

I wouldn't bet on that. The Seahawks were the top-scoring team in the NFL this year. They have the NFC probowl starting QB, left-side offensive line, fullback, and the league MVP for a rusher. It'll be fun!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/standings

PF =points for
PA =points against

[PayBays]

Right...

i hope it soon ends.Cause i don't understand a thing of Football.I usually don't see any good sides of it.People are getting slammed against the ground,even with protection people can still get hurt.

But hey,it probably would be me again.The whole world loves it except me.You can give me cycling or mountainbiking.That's a real game

So who will win the superbowl?Ask the stupid Monkey who predicted the results good 6 times and wrong 1 time.Come on bet all your money on it,your house,your car and better hope you win. :roll:

[fallenONE]

Not many hours left now to the start 8)

don't rly care who wins, as long as it's great football 8) (I just hope I can stay awake, as it begins 1am here :P )

IT is live in Finland?

[PayBays]

It's beginning now.I can't believe I'm going to watch this

the 40th Superbowl... yeah sure...

How did they came up with that name?

Deion Brown?who is he?Tom Braidy? I can see the genius Dexter and Ray Lewis

All names i never heared off.Anyone can explain?

[Steve]

First points to the Seahawks!! :lol: Field Goal!!
:lol:

[PayBays]

OMFG


This is exciting.Look at the last pass.OMG that referee... man 3 - 7 now
And almost half time.Man this is so exciting.

I can imagine how it would be in an Alizée Concert.

I have no words for this.I was planning to sleep at 12 but it's already 2 AM now...

[Steve]

:? sniff not looking good!! Pick it up Seahawks!!

[fallenONE]

21-10
Steelers
Jerome Bettis gets a Super Bowl Ring

Mike Holgrem don't get to become the first coach to gain 2 super bowl titles with 2 different teams :!:

[Le Fidèle]

WHY WHY WHY?!?!?!?!

the seahawks were suposed to win!!!!



o well, i won 5 bucks with my freind that the steelers would win :wink:

[Moco]

Congratulations to the Steelers, but there were some pretty bad calls by the refs that went against Seattle. There were at least 3 penalties called that were phantom calls. But the Seahawks really didn't help themselves with bad clock management at the end of both halves. At least the Bus goes out on top, so I'm happy for him.

the 40th Superbowl... yeah sure...

How did they came up with that name?
Well, I assume that since the college football season ends with a series of "bowl" games (ex, The Rose Bowl, the Orange Bowl, the Fiesta Bowl, etc...), they decided that since the NFL is supposed to be the cream of the crop, they wanted their "bowl" to be, well, super. :wink:

[KneeDeep]

Bad calls is an understatement. I think someone should be monitoring the ref's bank accounts. :)

I also like the neutral crowd. Was it 90/10 Steelers' crowd or was it just my imagination?

I had the Seahawks by 6 points. :(

[Steve]

Bad calls is an understatement. I think someone should be monitoring the ref's bank accounts. :)

I also like the neutral crowd. Was it 90/10 Steelers' crowd or was it just my imagination?

I had the Seahawks by 6 points. :(

What wasnt it a home game for them?? 8)

I had seahawks by 7-12!! :cry:

[Moco]

No, the game was in Detroit. Super Bowls are always played in a predetermined site, and teams rarely ever play in their own stadium for the game (actually I don't even know if that has ever happened). It just so happens that Pittsburgh is a lot closer to Detroit than Seattle is, so more Steelers fans were able to make the trip. And the Steelers are probably more popular anways, so it might not have made much difference.

[Steve]

I was being sarcastic! lol

[Le Fidèle]

well, lol,

i'm hoping my Niners will make it to the playoffs next year . . .



its time for this thread to go into hibernation(speltwrong). . . .

bye

[KneeDeep]

Not much anyone can do about it now. I still say the Seahawks got ripped off. :cheesy:

[fallenONE]

Super Bowl got its name from the popular Super Ball back in the 1960s. It was a name introduced by Kansas City Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt, then the head of the AFL(a seperate, new, and competing football league with the NFL). He reportedly named it the Super Bowl after he saw his grand daughter playing with this Super Ball.

Originally. Super Bowl was a match of the best teams of their respective Leagues (AFL vs. NFL) to decide who would be the ultimate champion. After the 1970 AFL-NFL merger (under which the combo league became today's NFL), AFL was changed to AFC and the "old NFL" to NFC (American Football Conference & National Football Conference).

[Le Fidèle]

hey, what were those commercials called, they came on right before the superbowl would come back on.

they were interviews of the players/coach holding the lambardi trohpy.

the background music was awsome, i've heard it before, and i want to know what the name of the song is!

thanks.

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

Not many hours left now to the start 8)

don't rly care who wins, as long as it's great football 8) (I just hope I can stay awake, as it begins 1am here :P )

IT is live in Finland?

Yeah...it was shown live on Finland's biggest channel 8)

but I fell asleep ofc :mrgreen: ..so I had to watch it the nxt morning whey they showed it again 8)

[Moco]

hey, what were those commercials called, they came on right before the superbowl would come back on.

they were interviews of the players/coach holding the lambardi trohpy.

the background music was awsome, i've heard it before, and i want to know what the name of the song is!

thanks.
I remember two of the spots had music from movie Armageddon. It's on the "inspired by" soundtrack as "Theme from Armageddon" or the score soundtrack as "Harry and Grace Make Peace" and "Launch". As for the other spots, I don't know what music they used.

[Le Fidèle]

sweet!

thanks Moco!

this is where i'v heard it before. . .

a lil off topic. . but i knew the song sounded familiar!



http://www.youtube.com/?v=NMs2syEIMHQ

[HumbleHero]

I hope im not the only one that loves Football because its the shit. If you do what is your favorite team? Also does anyone here from Europe watch NFL Europe....and is it even popular over their?

[tern]

People do. I'm sure this will just get merged into this thread anyway:

http://www.alizee-forum.com/topic,8338,-nfl-american-canadian-football-discussion-%5Bmerged%5D.html

[HumbleHero]

awsome didnt know their was another thread.

[AimLXJ]

I doubt this has any use to other people anymore http://www.alizee-forum.com/search.php

:cry:
C mon, don't kill AF with spam please.

[HumbleHero]

so do people from Europe even care about NFL Europe?

[tern]

The Germans do. I think all but one of the nine or so NFL Europe teams are in Germany, the last is just across the border in the Netherlands. I've seen part of a game on TV. All the teams have players with little logos on their helmet or jersey saying what NFL team they are contracted to.

[HumbleHero]

Amsterdam looks real nice, Prolly the only non-German NFL Europe team.

[HumbleHero]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/bush_reggie

Heres an example of what scouts analyze. From the size of your fingers to just about anything. Very accurate. Theirs Reggie Bush's profile. Number 1 player going in the draft.

[AimLXJ]

Um, http://www.alizee-forum.com/htopic,8338,nfl.html its pretty old, but you can prob bring the thread back

[HumbleHero]

I thought this deserved its own thread since its talkin about College prospects going to NFL.

[Moco]

I kind of forget about posting about the NFL Draft with the NBA Playoffs on my mind. But what do you guys think about the Texans drafting Mario Williams instead of Reggie Bush (or even Vince Young)? Personally, I think they made a huge mistake. You just don't pass on a talent like Bush that only come around every decade or so. Some writers have made the comparison to the 1985 (or is it '84) NBA Draft when Sam Bowie was drafted by Portland ahead of Michael Jordan because they needed a center. We all know how that turned out.

[Le Fidèle]

LMAO

dont even get me started on the texans!!!

stupidity isnt enough to explain this team!

reggie bush is unstoppable!

and i wish someone would have Broken the 49er kickers leg for winning the reggie bush bowl!!!

niners are stupid for winning that game. . . should have just blown that game to #1 Pick!!

alex smith and Reggie bush used to play together (ultamite combination!!!!)

AHHHRRRRR

NINERS WILL SUCK FOR ANOTHER SEASON!!!!!!! :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Brent]

do we have any fans on here? im an alabama fan when it comes to college, and an atlanta fan for pro

i went to the first alabama game of the year, we seat 92,000 :] it was great

[tern]

I go to the University of Washington and love basketball games. The student section is the whole lower section of one side of the court and it gets LOUD in in there! I also follow football and attend the games but it's hard to be a big fan right now.

Go Dawgs!

[Moco]

Go Chargers! They beat the Raiders 27-0 on Monday night. I kind of felt sorry for the Raiders though. They just seem so bad now even though they have some talented players.

I'm more of an NFL fan than college, but I watch college ball on occasion, especially USC last season.

[Le Fidèle]

YAY!!

niners won thier first season game today!!!

[banishedbayou]

Woot!!! Dallas took down the undefeated Colts!! w00t!!!

[Orion]

haha you guys should have Sean in this thread to liven it up a bit . . . 8)

[Señor Villa]

Anyone here Arizona Cardinals fans, if so I'm sorry. :lol:

[Le Fidèle]

YAY mcnab is out!!!!!! :cheesy:

[banishedbayou]

don't forget to vote for the probowl

[ilikesoliciting]

yep i cant wait for the probowl

except its so hard voting, esp for AFC quarterbacks this year

I mean, Manning has to be in, and then there's like Philip Rivers Carson Palmer Tom Brady and a lot more?

And how can you choose among them? Tom Brady is having a down year stat wise only because he has no great receivers

so in the end Manning Brady and Rivers for me...AFC is stacked

[banishedbayou]

Too bad Tony Romo can't be voted on for the pro-bowl.

[ilikesoliciting]

i hate tony romo... in my fantasy football matchup my opponent started him against my michael vick ... and romo threw 5 TDs :evil:

[banishedbayou]

i hate tony romo... in my fantasy football matchup my opponent started him against my michael vick ... and romo threw 5 TDs :evil:

LOL I am a Dallas Fan!!!!

HOW 'BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!

[ilikesoliciting]

well i am a NE fan and we all know that Patriots > Bears > Dallas 8)

[banishedbayou]

well i am a NE fan and we all know that Patriots > Bears > Dallas 8)

Thats all in doubt with the hot streak Dallas is on. Keep in mind we took down the best team in the NFL.

[ilikesoliciting]

ehh i dont remember the pats playing you... :?:

[banishedbayou]

ehh i dont remember the pats playing you... :?:

They took down the Colts (the best team in the NFL)

[ilikesoliciting]

Colts Sholks... they ain't nothing when it comes to crunch time!! win @ foxborough during January and i'll shut my mouth :cheesy:

[banishedbayou]

Colts Sholks... they ain't nothing when it comes to crunch time!! win @ foxborough during January and i'll shut my mouth :cheesy:

Foxborough will be empty in January ;)

Cowboys and Colts in the Superbowl :)

[fallenONE]

LT


do i need to say more?


hes truly something special

and my Eagles are stinkin' =(

[Le Fidèle]

NNOOO colts lost twice?!?!?!

niners actually won 3 in row?!?!?!

anyways, i think the bears will take it all this year. they're a great team!

on a side note,

BOOOO USC SHOULD HAVE WON!!! i hate watching cal v cal teams =/

[ilikesoliciting]

sucks for USC...oh well you snooze you lose

As for the Bears, they are decent and will probably make it to the super bowl since all the other NFC teams (except the saints) are mediocre, including Giants...

Indy is beatable, as evident from their loss to the Titans

sooooo...

Patriots are going to repeat as champs again...

sigh how boring, but i guess history repeats itself

[banishedbayou]

Next weeks game of the week:

Dallas 31
Saints 28

Dallas extends their winning streak to 5 in a row.

[ilikesoliciting]

Next weeks game of the week:

Dallas 31
Saints 28

Dallas extends their winning streak to 5 in a row.

Tony Romo will come back to earth soon... he is already performing poorly by throwing 2 INTs last game. against drew brees bush deuce and the WRs, dallas doesn't stand a chance!

[Moco]

It's all about the Chargers. LaDanian Tomlinson is unstoppable, Phillip Rivers is playing like a seasoned vet, and Shawne Merriman gives opposing quarterbacks nightmares. Right now, it's hard to say any other team is playing as well as the Chargers and they may even take first place in the AFC if the Colts keep losing. I'm not saying they'll win the Superbowl (don't want to jinx them :wink:) but they look really awesome. And that's in the vastly superior AFC.

The NFC looks so bad that a couple of .500 teams might even make the playoffs. The Bears were the best team earlier in the year, but their QB Rex Grossman has been absolutely horrible lately. Luckily their defense and special teams can win them games. But they can't win it all without a semblance of some offense.

[ilikesoliciting]

yea i do agree that Chargers are the best team right now. hopefully rivers will crack under playoff pressure though, whereas cool hand brady will excel as usually

and of course peyton's cracking under pressure is given..

[banishedbayou]

Next weeks game of the week:

Dallas 31
Saints 28

Dallas extends their winning streak to 5 in a row.

Tony Romo will come back to earth soon... he is already performing poorly by throwing 2 INTs last game. against drew brees bush deuce and the WRs, dallas doesn't stand a chance!

He didn't do as badly as the 2 int's says. He still had a good game because he made some very critical plays and found a way to win. He showed that he can deal with adversity.

Dallas has good wr's too. Terrel Owens, Terry Glenn and a great TE named Jason Witten.

Running Game: Dallas has a better running. Dallas is 8th and the saints are 21st

Defense: Dallas has a far superior defense. Dallas is 4th and the saints are what 25th?

Dallas has scored more points than the saints

Dallas 332
Saints 310

Dalllas has allowed less points to be scored on them

Dallas 218
Saints 251

[ilikesoliciting]

yes but reggie bush had his break out game

i wouldnt be surprised to see bush trample the cowboys

[ilikesoliciting]

Next weeks game of the week:

Dallas 31
Saints 28

Dallas extends their winning streak to 5 in a row.

Tony Romo will come back to earth soon... he is already performing poorly by throwing 2 INTs last game. against drew brees bush deuce and the WRs, dallas doesn't stand a chance!

He didn't do as badly as the 2 int's says. He still had a good game because he made some very critical plays and found a way to win. He showed that he can deal with adversity.

Dallas has good wr's too. Terrel Owens, Terry Glenn and a great TE named Jason Witten.

Running Game: Dallas has a better running. Dallas is 8th and the saints are 21st

Defense: Dallas has a far superior defense. Dallas is 4th and the saints are what 25th?

Dallas has scored more points than the saints

Dallas 332
Saints 310

Dalllas has allowed less points to be scored on them

Dallas 218
Saints 251

well what can i say? B L O W O U T...

although my Pats didn't fare too well either

[banishedbayou]

Next weeks game of the week:

Dallas 31
Saints 28

Dallas extends their winning streak to 5 in a row.

Tony Romo will come back to earth soon... he is already performing poorly by throwing 2 INTs last game. against drew brees bush deuce and the WRs, dallas doesn't stand a chance!

He didn't do as badly as the 2 int's says. He still had a good game because he made some very critical plays and found a way to win. He showed that he can deal with adversity.

Dallas has good wr's too. Terrel Owens, Terry Glenn and a great TE named Jason Witten.

Running Game: Dallas has a better running. Dallas is 8th and the saints are 21st

Defense: Dallas has a far superior defense. Dallas is 4th and the saints are what 25th?

Dallas has scored more points than the saints

Dallas 332
Saints 310

Dalllas has allowed less points to be scored on them

Dallas 218
Saints 251

well what can i say? B L O W O U T...

although my Pats didn't fare too well either

Yeah the Cowboys put points on the board.

[Le Fidèle]

cowboys. . .

got KILLED last weekend.

[banishedbayou]

Cowboys down the Atlanta Vickons

38-28

[ilikesoliciting]

gameday gameday massive playoff implications!

i can't believe Romo made the pro bowl; what a joke... in his last three games he has thrown 3 TDs and 5 INTs. The NFC is horrible. Tom Brady, arguably the best quarterback in the league, mr. Lord of the Rings, and who is often debated with peyton manning, got snubbed in the harsh AFC. And we have people like Romo going into the pro bowl!

I could start in the pro bowl for the NFC

[fallenONE]

EAGLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[ilikesoliciting]

Playoff time here we go!!!

CHIEFS over Colts
PATS over Jets

COWBOYS over Seahawks
EAGLES over Giants

[Señor Villa]

San Diego Chargers vs Chicago Bears in the Super Bowl. Chargers will win.

[ilikesoliciting]

hellz yea... pats vs saints in the super bowl

[Brent]

at this point i cant say i dont think the saints wont make it

so many threats, and such great team chemistry

i think the colts will screw up as usual, they have had a great team for a long time, but they never make it

the bears offense will kill themselves

the pats are good but not like the old pats imo

[ilikesoliciting]

at this point i cant say i dont think the saints wont make it

so many threats, and such great team chemistry

i think the colts will screw up as usual, they have had a great team for a long time, but they never make it

the bears offense will kill themselves

the pats are good but not like the old pats imo

the old pats? what do you mean not like the old pats? The pats were never the best in terms of raw talent, but they know how to win big games. They upset the Rams when the Rams were heavy favorites. They beat Philly when Philly had more overall talent. As long as the Patriots stick to Belichek's plan and Brady keeps cool the Pats will be fine. Gaffney is turning into a quality wide receiver as well, plus Harrison might be back soon.

[jomenvisst84]

I watched my first American football game ever this new years night at an after party. The rules seem pretty strange, the host of the party tried explaining the rules to us during the entire game... in vain I might add ;)

I'll give it another chance this week, sober this time ;)

[ilikesoliciting]

American football is one of the most watched sporting events in the world. It's exciting!

[Eril]

The new Wembley stadium will play host to American football this year when the NFL stages a regular-season game outside of North America for the first time in its history.

The UK, Germany, Canada and Mexico were identified as the four priority markets to hold the game due to logistical and broadcast reasons.

NFL Europa has been a huge hit in Germany and there was interest in holding the game in that country but ultimately, London was selected.

[lax'n]

the best of the "similar" sports is rugby!!

USAP de Perpignan is the best!

[Señor Villa]

I don't think American football is that popular elsewhere as football (soccer) is not that popular in America.

[Brent]

yeah but america is the king of the world, soccer is the most watched sport, but i wouldnt doubt that american football is the second

the culture of college football is unlike anything else in the world, stadiums are freaking huge, my colleges stadium seats 90,000 and its not near the biggest

i think ohio state seats 100,000+ but i dont know how much over 100,000 it is

but its just a college, gotta think about that

btw eril i remember that game played in mexico last year, was pretty cool, though i forgot who played :lol: i dont remember for some reason

[AlphaDevil2]

I'll never understand the allurement of American football. Jus because they are rubbish at Rugby, they invent their own game which no one else plays so that they can be the best in the world at that sport . Such an Ameican attitude :wink:

All joking aside, I watched the superbowl last year and it pissed me off after every play there was an add break, The sport just seemed so slow and commercally orientated. I got so annoyed by this I turned it off after the first quarter.

[ilikesoliciting]

Well the superbowl is the most expensive television event. Each 30 second ad costs well over a million dollars. A lot of people actually watch the super bowl for ads, since sometimes they are better than the game itself.

[AlphaDevil2]

Well the superbowl is the most expensive television event. Each 30 second ad costs well over a million dollars. A lot of people actually watch the super bowl for ads, since sometimes they are better than the game itself.

Why does that not surprise me, for me the commercials were the most interesting part of the "show" :shock:

Anyway America try to make as much money as they can out of commercial opportunities. They'd be able to sell sand to an Arab :wink:

TBF when I watched the superbowl it was late at night in England so I was half asleep, but still it was so slow, just get into and an add break. :evil:

[Max_07s]

I think ITV will show NFL this week...but I forgot when...american football is much better than baseball which is so boring...3 hours and u might see they hit a ball once in 10 minutes...ehehehehehe!!!

i agree with alpha..american football is too commercial..everytime they show player line up..its like a celebrity act...quite funny...

[AlphaDevil2]

I think ITV will show NFL this week...but I forgot when

Yeah they will be tonight, showing the superbowl between the Chicago bears and Indianapolis Colts I believe . Gonna try and watch it again tonight and see if I find it remotely interesting :D

[Señor Villa]

My prediction Chicago 34-14 over Indianapolis.

[ilikesoliciting]

and we're off!

if chicago beats indy i will eat my hat

[AlphaDevil2]

and we're off!

if chicago beats indy i will eat my hat

If I can understand whats going on, I'll eat my hat :shock:

[Brent]

chi-town is winning right now but i think the colts will pull it off

[Moco]

Congrats to the Colts and Peyton Manning for finally getting the monkey off his back. He won the Super Bowl MVP too, but I thought the 2 running backs, Rhodes and Addai were more deserving. While Manning's performance was decent, although sub-par by his standards, the running game really carried the Colt's offense. Their defense also deserves a lot of credit especially with those 2 key interceptions.

[ilikesoliciting]

Congrats to the Colts and Peyton Manning for finally getting the monkey off his back. He won the Super Bowl MVP too, but I thought the 2 running backs, Rhodes and Addai were more deserving. While Manning's performance was decent, although sub-par by his standards, the running game really carried the Colt's offense. Their defense also deserves a lot of credit especially with those 2 key interceptions.

Yea I would've liked to see a co-mvp with manning and rhodes (addai will get his some other time). It was a decent game, although it would of been better had Tom Brady won another ring.

[Shark1]

the only thing I have to say is "colts rocks :mrgreen: "

[Brent]

colts are never beat, they play the whole game and they play hard on both sides

it pays off obviously, congratulations

[Señor Villa]

Now we will see bandwagon Colt fans running around with their shirts and hats. :roll:

[banishedbayou]

It's just about FOOTBALL season again everyone!!

Who is going to the superbowl?

I say Dallas vs Pittsburgh.

Not too likely but that is what I want to see.

[Moco]

San Diego vs. whoever wins the NFC. :wink:

[Brent]

LT, greatest player to play the game

[le chacal]

LT, greatest player to play the game

I think he's overrated. As for early Super Bowl predictions, San Diego Chargers over the Chicago Bears.

[Brent]

haha, just watch the holes he discovers and the way he approaches them, the stats speak for themselves, and his personality and intelligence shows every play

to say LT is overrated has to be a joke, hes like a robot at the RB position who knows what to do at any situation

[le chacal]

haha, just watch the holes he discovers and the way he approaches them, the stats speak for themselves, and his personality and intelligence shows every play

to say LT is overrated has to be a joke, hes like a robot at the RB position who knows what to do at any situation

I think he's a bit of a poor man's Barry Sanders. I'll concede he is the top runningback playing now, but best football player ever? No way

[Brent]

lol barry sander's records are broke bud.

and damn right he is easily the best player right now and of all time, the game is bigger and faster now, so if hes doing this great now imagine what he'd do to past competition.

[le chacal]

lol barry sander's records are broke bud.

and damn right he is easily the best player right now and of all time, the game is bigger and faster now, so if hes doing this great now imagine what he'd do to past competition.

Barry Sanders also retired very young, and still nobody has ever had the vision or elusiveness of Barry(not even Walter).

The only reason they're bigger and, in some cases, faster is because players today have the time in off-season to train and condition themselves. Old school players weren't paid nearly as much(Deacon Jones--one of the best DEs ever--- had to work oddjobs during the offseason). Additionally, players today are bred to be bigger starting at high school or pre-high school. That said, I'm predicting SD to win it(cant believe they lost in the playoffs last year or that the colts won it all). Besides, how can you say a player is best all time? At most, best at his position but even thats difficult to rate.

[Brent]

yeah but they still are bigger and faster

[Moco]

To say someone's the best player of all time is just one man's opinion. I don't think any stats or arguments could definitively prove that a given player is the best of all time. Trying to convince each other otherwise would be pointless. Let's just say there are players and there are great players. And I think we can all agree that LT is one of those great players.

[le chacal]

And, are there any other Dolphins fans(Dolfans) on Alizee-forum or am I alone?

[Brent]

i think you'd be alone haha

[fondycards53]

I give you credit for standing up for your team no matter what

[banishedbayou]

lol barry sander's records are broke bud.

and damn right he is easily the best player right now and of all time, the game is bigger and faster now, so if hes doing this great now imagine what he'd do to past competition.

Barry Sanders didn't play that long ago. If someone had said Jim Brown it would be a different story.

[le chacal]

I give you credit for standing up for your team no matter what

Through thick or thin,
lose or win,
I'll always remain a phin!