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The Mighty Atom
12th September 2004, 13:37
No TV-promotion for the Live-DVD and the live-album? 09/12/04

The french yellow press magazine Voici reports in its following issue that the whole TV-promotion for the Live-DVD and Live-Album coming in about a month was cancelled. The reason for this should be, that Alizée doesn't feel comfortable anymore with her image Lolita she still has and she thinks that her actual style doesn't fit anymore to promote the tour. This news should come from Universal directly.

Source: Alizée Star (http://alizeestar.free.fr/index.html)

Freakin Voici again! Is this another assault on Alizée?! What kind off bull is that! T_T :evil:

Ayan
12th September 2004, 13:46
Howcome they are always the first ones to announce bad rumors.
Typical voici.

... like im gonna belive their articles without any further evidence. Bah.

Snatcher42
12th September 2004, 13:47
:shock: I pray it isn't true, and knowing Voici it probably isn't. :roll: :thumbdown:

Edit to add: It strikes me as the type of decision that Lili, MF/LB, and Universal would have made BEFORE the press release we saw several weeks ago, so I further doubt there is any truth to this.

Snatcher42
12th September 2004, 14:10
In the IRC channel we were picking this apart, noting how Voici manages to say absolutely nothing, while implying lots... typical technique for a worthless tabloid. Assuming this translation is from the magazine and to be trusted, look at the following:

"The reason for this should be" <-- SHOULD BE? Ok, so then everything after this is just an OPINION.

"This news should come from Universal directly." <-- SHOULD COME? Ok, so then this news isn't directly from Universal (as they seem to be implying), but rather that one should EXPECT Universal to make an announcement IN THE FUTURE. In other words... Voici knows absolutely nothing, and is just telling its readers what it foresees happening later.

What a great load of hot air - filling an article with zero truth, yet never actually lying!

Ayan
12th September 2004, 14:27
What a great load of hot air - filling an article with zero truth, yet never actually lying!
Yep yep, they're pro's.
And i mean it in a bad way.

DavidAlizée
12th September 2004, 14:34
Yeah, i think we have to read between the lines.. I can't understand why voici would come out and say this withought reliable sources. I hope that this is not true.. but who knows.. I think it is just specualtion.. or information they recieved that they belive is to be true, from a unrealiable source :?

Either way, we will find out soon enough..

Lía
12th September 2004, 15:00
i hope this is false... i hate voici anyways.... i don't believe them.... :badboys:

Backinblack
12th September 2004, 19:56
First of all, the English translation from that site isn't very good (don't know why they used "should"), but other than that it essentially says the same thing in French.

It's never a good thing when Alizée is mentioned in Voici, because there's always a thread of truth behind all the rubbish (well, except when they claimed Olivier was her boyfriend, but anyway...). Here's a few things that were being thrown around on the Alliance:

The fact is that she is under contract to promote her album(s). Even if it were true that she was tired of the Lolita image, why would Universal cancel all the promotion just because of that? Why would Alizée give up on it all right after Universal sends out an official promotion poster and the single starts playing on the airwaves? Does Alizée really have that much clout with Universal? To cancel all TV promotion would pretty much doom the DVD and CD sales. Hard to believe Universal would just wave goodbye to all that money. And it's not like singing Amélie m'a dit makes you think of Lolita. It's her decision if she wants to change her style, but she still has a commitment to do promotion. Usually Mylène Farmer has pretty tight control over that stuff (remember Moi... Lolita).

I guess tomorrow we'll see if anything changes when the actual issue goes on sale.

The Mighty Atom
12th September 2004, 20:13
Is there a chance that the DVD and Live CD will be cancelled before October 18?

Argh, thats such a horrorific thought! :evil:

Snatcher42
12th September 2004, 20:14
Does the original French say that Alizée has tired with the Lolita image? Cause I got the impression that it might be Universal - or both - that felt it was no longer appropriate... still doesn't make sense, as I'm sure Universal loves the image (it sells), and like you said, there's nothing especially Lolita-esque about AMD, or even any of her post-JPVA TV appearances for that matter.

I'm pretty sure Voici's reasons are complete BS... but it is worrying, as you said, for the possible truth behind it - that there may be no (or fewer) new TV appearances to promote the DVD. :(

Hoping for the best...

Backinblack
12th September 2004, 20:38
Atom, I wouldn't even worry about that. Universal doesn't seem very smart sometimes but after all the money they've invested in producing the live supports, it would be stupid not to release them, especially since the single is already on the airwaves.

Here's the original text in French and my translation in English:

Alizée : elle ne sait plus qui elle est.
On sait les soucis de la jeune protégée de Mylène Farmer avec sa maison de disques : les albums, pour l'instant, c'est entre parenthèses. Mais on lui avait promis un "live", et le voilà qui sort. Pourtant, toute la promo prévue (Star Academy, Vivement Dimanche, Hit Machine) a été annulée. Une circulaire confidentielle d'Universal explique que c'est parce qu'elle ne se sent plus à l'aise avec son image de lolita. Eh oui, tout passe...Surtout le temps.

Alizée: she no longer knows who she is.
We know about Mylène Farmer's young protégé and her worries with her record label: the albums, for now, are being temporarily put aside. But she was promised a "live", and it is indeed being released. However, all of the expected promotion (Star Academy, Vivement Dimanche, Hit Machine) has been canceled. A confidential memo from Universal explains that it's because she no longer feels comfortable with her lolita image. Yes, everything passes...especially time.

Ayan
12th September 2004, 20:43
If Alizée was indeed so unsure about Herself and Her image as voici says, then She would not have made those announcements in the first place.
The whole promotion thing was kind of thought through over the past few months. Then it was being announced, and right after that, a week later, it is cancelled ?

Voici is being sloppy this time, their story doesnt even add up properly.

Backinblack
12th September 2004, 20:48
If Alizée was indeed so unsure about Herself and Her image as voici says, then She would not have made those announcements in the first place.
The whole promotion thing was kind of thought through over the past few months. Then it was being announced, and right after that, a week later, it is cancelled ?


Yep, that's exactly what was being said on the Alliance forum. Strange that Voici mentions these things after the promotion has already started.

Snatcher42
12th September 2004, 20:54
Despite it all probably being a load of crap... I can't help getting that sinking feeling... we (the fan community) really need some new TV appearances about now, just to let us know that all is well and good in Alizée-land...

Manu
12th September 2004, 21:16
Voishit deserves no credibility as far as I'm concerned. How can Alizée say 'no' to promote her single, dvd, etc.? And that's supposed to come from "une circulaire confidentielle d'Universal"... in exchange for what?
We'll see what happens.

DavidAlizée
12th September 2004, 21:36
yeah, rubbish it may be.. i just hope there isnt "any" truth in this at all. I have a strange feeling something bad is going to come out of this....

Backinblack
12th September 2004, 21:42
From tok2mac:
Et je pense que si un artiste refuse de faire sa promo c'est une faute suffisante pour lui rendre son contrat. Alors je vois mal Alizée refuser de chanter Amélie pour 3-4 télé au risque de se retrouver sans maison de disque fixe.

I think if an artist refused to do his/her promo, it's sufficient reason to break their contract. I can't imagine Alizée refusing to sing Amélie for 3-4 TV appearances at the risk of finding herself without a record label.

Makes sense to me.

The Mighty Atom
12th September 2004, 22:15
That stinks, dammit!

Lets hope the DVD and CD will comeout whatsoever, and lets hope it all goes well.

Moco
13th September 2004, 01:15
Well, well, well. Voici up to their old tricks again, eh? This doesn't surprise me one bit, but it does have me a little worried. But that little comment from tok2mac makes a lot of sense to me too. If Alizée is really tired of the lolita image, there wouldn't be much harm to just do these TV appearances. She'll have plenty of time to change her image with her third album.

Manu
13th September 2004, 02:54
Making a big effort and assuming that Voishit's info is at least slightly correct, then I just cannot understand why Alizée must wear the old outfits (the so-called 'lolita' ones) to promote AMD, if she doesn't want to.

John
13th September 2004, 03:08
Making a big effort and assuming that Voishit's info is at least slightly correct, then I just cannot understand why Alizée must wear the old outfits (the so-called 'lolita' ones) to promote AMD, if she doesn't want to.

There are times when you must do what you do not want to. Especially when its about money, I am guessing thats the case here. Selling albums isn't all fun and games I bet. If she wants to continue her little shopping sprees in Paris then it would be wise to do what the money giants want.

Though Voici isn't one to trust, I wouldn't be surprised if they are right here. Maybe Alizee really is 'Fed Up' and making some poor decisions on her part. Some stupid mistakes can easily end your career.

I don't like speculating too much...but those are my thoughts.

Eukie
13th September 2004, 03:34
It's never a good thing when Alizée is mentioned in Voici, because there's always a thread of truth behind all the rubbish (well, except when they claimed Olivier was her boyfriend, but anyway...).
It looks to me like classic rumour-mongering. One part, "Alizée apears in May with a new look," and then this. Yeah, it would suggest she's distancing herself from her original Lolita image, and just enough so that Voici can sell a few papers by playing with something already obvious.

Yes, there is a shred of fact behind it, and we beat it to death back in May. Beyond that, I say we just go with the flow, it makes little sense, as has already been thought of, that she would just flip a switch on a whim and say, "No!" It's not like it was a hastily slapped-together promo tour, either. She's had time, she's made appearances, she even sang "L'Alizé," it's just Voici taking a leap for a few Euros.

The careful and double nature of the wording leads me to belive Voici is trying to avoid another lawsuit, too ;)

Manu
14th September 2004, 02:15
I thought Universal wanted her to evolve in her career, and that's why she started to change her look and clothes since the ACC videoclip and promo. I thought the money giants themselves were behind that change cos it was supposed to not be good if she got stuck in the lolita image. Hmm well, we are in another 'wait and see', again. As usual. Why can't we ever know anything for Sure? Damn.

Ayan
14th September 2004, 13:45
You are right manu, voici is contradicting itself.

Jaycubed
16th September 2004, 20:50
Well i just hope in the end out of all of this that there is no 'Lolita image' or New Image and stuff like that. I hope there is an 'Alizée image' Alizée being Alizée throughout it all, and evolving as she does so...and Eukie's point is one i was gonna bring up...she sang L'Alizé in may with a new look, she seemed to be pretty happy there. But why should she want to so aggressively detach herself from the previous 4 years of her career? where she had huge success, made beautiful songs and smiled so much and lit up the lives of so many...it does worry me in general i am always worried though, i just wanna hear of a performance and see a performance again and then we can stop all this shaking in our boots

Manu
17th September 2004, 02:19
Yeah I didn't remember about it, when she sang L'Alizée in May. The rumour can't be serious, I think it's rubbish.

The Mighty Atom
17th September 2004, 09:10
Girls are sometimes strange creatures. :P Geuss that Alizée is one of them. :)

Piece Of Paradise
18th September 2004, 05:45
Voici sure is controversial, but until I find further proof that supports what they say, I'm just staying silent.