"Champions League 2004/05"

[Los]

Hello!
today towards 4pm there've been the drawing for the new "Champions League 2004-05"

here the groups:

Group A
RC Deportivo La Coruña (ESP)
Liverpool FC (ENG)
AS Monaco FC (FRA)
Olympiacos CFP (GRE)



Group B
Real Madrid CF (ESP)
AS Roma (ITA)
Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER)
FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)



Group C
FC Bayern München (GER)
Juventus FC (ITA)
AFC Ajax (HOL)
Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR)



Group D
Manchester United FC (ENG)
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
AC Sparta Praha (CZE)
Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)



Group E
Arsenal FC (ENG)
Panathinaikos FC (GRE)
PSV Eindhoven (HOL)
Rosenborg BK (NOR)



Group F
FC Barcelona (ESP)
AC Milan (ITA)
Celtic FC (SCO)
FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)



Group G
Valencia CF (ESP)
FC Internazionale (ITA)
RSC Anderlecht (BEL)
Werder Bremen (GER)



Group H
FC Porto (POR)
Chelsea FC (ENG)
Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA)
PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS)


Voilà....ENJOYING the new ADVENTURE of the CHAMPIONS LEGUE 2004/05...
GooD LucK to everybody!!! :D

[Petsku1]

yep thx....

now just hoping that they show Pools matches here...

[DavidAlizée]

Yeah, the champions league is great! Always i follow English teams ofc.. exept Arsenal. I would normally follow my home town team Newcastle utd... but this year, ill be rooting for Manchester utd! ... thnx for posting the groups!!

wow Rosenborg.. i remember those when Blackburn beat them 3-0. great game that was, and 2 of the blackburn players started to throw punches at eachother during the game. Le saux and Batty.. was a crazy match! =) i can't wait now

[Jaycubed]

Yeap the CL looks good this year....and Man U have a realtively easy group i think so that's cool for me :P

And also the fact that Mourinho will Face Porto so soon after he 'defected' :mrgreen:

it's turned out nicely

[AliZee4ever <3]

oh yeah, Champions League rox.
how allways, im for Italian clubs, mostly AS Roma, and after this summer(then found Alizee) ill add to list French teams :)

and good luck for other teams

[Max_07s]

i'm still with real madrid...Allez :cheesy: ZIZOU!!!

[Piece Of Paradise]

I'll be supporting Man Utd, and maybe Paris S.G.

[Los]

mm....I'll support ...mm......MILAN AC Rulezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :cheesy:

[Nikodemus]

Still a fan of Real Madrid. Maybe triple this year with the new manager.
Real's Group B doesn't look hard.

[a.c. ajaccio]

i support man utd but i don't think the squads good enough to win it this year, I think Barcelona will have a good chance

[Max_07s]

yyeah..barca had bought many good plyer this season..but i hope owen will Real win treble this season.. :D

[DavidAlizée]

Yeah, owen is working hard in the last game... but i doubt he will keep it up. He is a great player, but not in the same class as real madrid players.

[Petsku1]

Owen... not in the same class as real madrid players.
i disagree strongly ........ 8)

[SCS]

Barça wins this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Petsku1]

Barça wins this year!!!....
.....only one game....home game against Shaktar Donetsk :P

[Starski]

I support Arsenal London!!!!

Poole?!?!?!? Can I eat that?

[Los]

Barça wins this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think there will be a revenge with MILAN AC!!! :evil: :mrgreen: :D

[Max_07s]

Real MAdrid will win this year..eheheh...

[Jaycubed]

Poole?!?!?!? Can I eat that?

OMG that's so funny Stars....Petteri said Pool, meaning Liverpool...

and it's funnier to me cos i actually Live in Poole, and you sent me a postcard there, so you should remember it's a place!! :mrgreen: So you WERE drunk when you wrote it eh?? :P :P

[amerodeh33z]

i live in israel ... and see TEL AVIV the smaller team in this league ... i wonderd hhh... by the way i don't support that team ... i support real madrid but that not meen that it's not a nicee thing to see new teams in the championship league ...
but let's hope they will do a good thing right there ... in the mosr diffeclt group ...

i support a team from israel but it's an arab team like me ... it called Sakhnen united and it's very pooor team but made good things last year and wich to him a good season this year too in the UEFA cup ...
and ask god to give him someone to build for them a stadum ... cuz for this time they don't have a place to play in ... :roll:

[Los]

^ hey amerodeh33z, so u live in Nazareth, the land of our Jesus Christ!
It's the first time i speak with an Israelian (ohps...i don't know how write it in english) guy!!!
:D

Ciao!!!

[amerodeh33z]

hahaha thank u ... ya i live in there ... don't be sorry about the word ... u can say "it's the first time i speak with arabian :lol: " ah and u from italy think ... ah there are many italian guys come to nazareth ... 8)

buona notte :lol:

[Los]

oh...là...là

u speak italian very good!!!

Buona notte amico! :D

[amerodeh33z]

yaaa.... i was in sharm el sheikh if u know that wonderfull place in sinai in egypt and my uncle was with me and there was many many italian people , so we talked with many many people in there and i get some from this beautiful language ... and my uncle speak italian very good cuz he studed in italy 7 years ... and my BRO will go italy to study medicen too ...in the next year. :D

[Los]

You're WELCOME! :D

Italian is a very difficult language....so complicated!!!! :cry:

There're many Jewish people in Italy! :D

[amerodeh33z]

hahahah ... doesn't matter many jewish people i can live with all kind if people ...
and for me ... i discoverd that the italian language is beautiful language and easy to learn ...
BTW u have MSN Messenger ? cuz i added u but for now i didn't get and accept
from u ...
i like to talk with italian people ... cuz arab feelings and kind of talking are very similar to the italians ...

abbia un giorno piacevole :lol:

[Lía]

Come on CHELSEA!!!!

I want chelsea to win... otherwise my family will hate me... OMG they already do.. i support torquay and they r in league 1. oh well...

[Max_07s]

i support man u in epl..ehehe..but it seem i have to support soton when i get there..lol..

[Lía]

i support man u in epl..ehehe..but it seem i have to support soton when i get there..lol..

i hate man u :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

but i kinda like soton i have seen them play once... AT CHELSEA!!!!! :mrgreen:

[DavidAlizée]

omg, i hate Chelsea..so stuck up. Arsenal and Chelsea i hate. I like Man utd.. So i hope they do it!

[Lía]

omg, i hate Chelsea..so stuck up. Arsenal and Chelsea i hate. I like Man utd.. So i hope they do it!

i hate man u and i hate chelsea

however, next year i'd love to see newcastle in the champions league... or bolton! :cheesy:

[DavidAlizée]

Yeah, that could happen now for us with our new manager, that will be cool. Id like to see BlackBurn Rovers in the champions league..

[A. Gourmandises]

Real Madrid or Barcelona will win the Champions League :mrgreen:

[Lía]

me too!

infact i'm fed up of chelsea, man u and arsenal in the champions league... i wanna c more "british" teams in there...! C, MU and A are too well-known....

[Salva]

^^ Yeahhhh Real Madrid champion this year!! 8)

[Max_07s]

real madrid rulez...hope zizou will make real win...

[Los]

<I wanna say nothing....about the WINNER!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 8)

[Max_07s]

ac milan is strong team los..no wonder if they win this season..

[Los]

^nope man, they'll not win the CL this year many other team are strong

this year, so i wanna say nothing untill the moment when..... :mrgreen:

[Nikodemus]

It starts today! UCL match day number one. 8 games today.

[Lía]

This is all I have to say:

COME ON CHELSEA!!!

[DavidAlizée]

^ i thought you hated chelsea ? lol

i hate man u and i hate chelsea

[Lía]

i have to like them as my dad and bro like them... but i'm not too keen on them... :mrgreen:

[DavidAlizée]

^lol yeah, always best to support the team ur family likes when waching the match in the same house. But secretly hate them : )

[Lía]

^totally true! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Los]

today started the first steps for the new UEFA Champions League:

Matchday 1
14 September 2004

Arsenal 1-0 PSV
Panathinaikos 2-1 Rosenborg
Celtic 1-3 Barcelona
Shakhtar 0-1 Milan
Inter 2-0 Bremen
Valencia 2-0 Anderlecht
Porto 0-0 CSKA Moskva
PSG 0-3 Chelsea

that's all...! :thumbup:

see ya tomorrow..... :D

[Thanasis]

thnx! :mrgreen: , nice one again

[DavidAlizée]

Yep i seen Arsenal live on TV.. played well.

Thanks again los for keeping us updated.

[Lycan Master]

hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa los, tomoz juve is gonna get his ass kicked amigo :mrgreen: looking forward to our msn war about the match :P

nwayz, to help out with the results.... celtic actually lost 1-3 larsson scored once against his old club and helped set up the second barça goal

[Los]

^yep...i corrected the mistake coz i didn't know that much started later than the others match!
THX...! :D

[Nikodemus]

Ajax - Juve will be interesting. Zlatan is playing against his old club.
Porto's 0-0 draw against CSKA Moskva is quite weird. The defending champion wasn't able to score at home against underdogs.

[Lía]

congratz to chelsea!!! :mrgreen: they deserved to win... :roll:

[Los]

UEFA Champions League 2004-2005

Matchday 1
15 September 2004

Deportivo 0-0 Olympiacos
Liverpool 2-0 Monaco
Leverkusen 3-0 Real Madrid
Roma 0-1* Dynamo Kyiv (abandoned)
Ajax 0-1 Juventus
M. Tel-Aviv 0-1 Bayern
Fenerbahçe 1-0 Sparta
Lyon 2-2 Man. United

* The match has been abandoned because of an injury to referee Anders Frisk. It appeared that the official had been hit by a missle thrown from the crowd just moments after sending off Roma defender Philippe Mexes.
http://www.gazzetta.it/Foto%20Hermes/2004/09-Settembre/15/frisk2--310x210.jpg

That's all! :twisted: (damn...AS Roma supporter :evil: ! They showed to all Europe their un-sporting ways!!!

see ya on 29th September!!! :wink:

[Salva]

Leverkusen 3-0 Real Madrid


very bad bad bad bad :cry:

[DavidAlizée]

* The match has been abandoned because of an injury to referee Anders Frisk. It appeared that the official had been hit by a missle thrown from the crowd just moments after sending off Roma defender Philippe Mexes.


dispickable behavior!!! it is a disgrace to the name of football. I hope they find out who did this, this is just not on. :?

[Max_07s]

real lose... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
hey beck..what u r doing? :evil:

[Starski]

The match has been abandoned because of an injury to referee Anders Frisk. It appeared that the official had been hit by a missle thrown from the crowd just moments after sending off Roma defender Philippe Mexes.


:evil:
Actions like these I can't tolerate! I hope they find out which stupid "fan" did that!

[Nikodemus]

Leverkusen 3-0 Real Madrid


very bad bad bad bad :cry:
indeed! losing without scoring a goal is bad enough but when Zidane got injuried I think the game was a disaster.

[Lía]

Deportivo 0-0 Olympiacos
Hmmm....

Liverpool 2-0 Monaco
hurrah! go l'pool!
Leverkusen 3-0 Real Madrid
Real Madrid should had won...
Roma 0-1* Dynamo Kyiv (abandoned)
The match has been abandoned because of an injury to referee Anders Frisk. It appeared that the official had been hit by a missle thrown from the crowd just moments after sending off Roma defender Philippe Mexes.
let's hope they catch whoever did it!
Ajax 0-1 Juventus
Boo hoo hoo. I wanted AJAX to win. Darn.
M. Tel-Aviv 0-1 Bayern
:roll: :roll: :roll: (don't like the teams)
Fenerbahçe 1-0 Sparta
See above.
Lyon 2-2 Man. United
Dismal match.... no comment...

[Lycan Master]

Ajax - Juventus is the prime example that football has a lot to do with luck!!!

I agree that pavel nedved's goal was a beauty but other than that Juventus hasn't shown shit!

Ajax put a lot of pressure on juve from the start and that resulted in a great shot by Weasel (Wesley Sonck for the non-ajax-slang-speaking-people :mrgreen:) that hit the bar.... if luck was on our side that shot would've gone in and juve would've had a difficult time ahead of 'em.... down a goal after two mins.....

I do admit that after ten minutes juve controlled the match and ajax didn't show much anymore, but hey, juve has a lot more experience than us... the average age of our team is only 20! where for juve there are a lot of older players, who have more experience.... still, with juve controlling they still didn't show much till the 42nd minute when pavel nedved made the goal..... to be honest pavel was playing shit yesterday....

Before he scored, he got frustrated coz he couldn't overrun his opponent.... ajax had him pinned most of the time and the only thing pavel could do was fall down.... not all the time though, but most of the time when he fell he was faking it and if not faking then he just stayed on the ground to gain some seconds.... pathetic... at a time he fell down and needed help from the magical canister :mrgreen: and he was grabbing his ass all the time to show he was in pain... , then he scored, didn't grab his ass, and after the goal he grabbed his ass again... :roll: if he was in that much pain he wouldn't have been able to make that goal at all... it was all just acting, the entire game his ass hurts but at that time it didn't???? yeah right, but but but a beauty of a goal nonetheless

In the second half, Ajax dominated once again... Juve lost a lot of duels on the midfield coz of which Ajax could counter in a few seconds and they got some rather big chances as well... the biggest one probably being the breakthrough of Nicolae Mitea (who hasn't played a single second for ajax this season, and now all of a sudden playing like a god! which deserves a bit of recognition as well) on the left, passing it to Van Der Vaart, who flicked it with his heel to upcoming Pienaar who just came an inch to short to push it in goal after which Cannavaro could clear the ball..... a few minutes later similar chance this time van der vaart came an inch to short to push it in.... and a few more chances....

Like i said, it all had to do with luck... Juve had the luck on their side.... True juve normally is a stronger team than Ajax but not yesterday, yesterday they won coz of luck... if we had luck on our side, Sonck's shot in the second minute wouldn't have hit the bar but it would be a goal, and pienaar and van der vaart would have pushed the ball in goal

Another thing ppl were talking to me about was Zlatan Ibrahimovic.... one of Ajax finest who swapped Ajax for Juventus.... true he is a magnificent player but not against Ajax and it showed, he only got one chance in the entire match and that is low for a striker with his capabilities. Why didn't he play so well, it's easy to explain. He played for Ajax only two weeks ago.... We know him to the bone, his way of playing the game, our defenders have trained with him so they know how to make sure he can't break through on the field.... And we used that knowledge... we had him pinned as well

Ajax - Juve, the better team lost, and true, i am a fan of Ajax so of course i defend my team but everyone knows it's the way it is.... Juve had the luck and Ajax didn't simple as that

[Lía]

^^good report The One!

and welcome back! (soz i'm not on msn, it's playing up!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: )

[Jaycubed]

Well...Manchester United, what can i say, first half....possibly the worst 45 mins of Red devil football ever, went 2-0 down to some nice play from Lyon but a bad mistake by Tim Howard again, and a nice piece of counter attacking with help from static Man U defence. Second half was better...though Djemba-Djemba continued to play the worst game of his career. Ronaldo and Giggs switches sides and it worked well, then this kicked Ruud into gear and he slotted home two typical RVN finishes. 2-2 was probably a deserved result, wish i could have been there but i'll be there for the home game! :P

Good to see Pavel doing the business still too! 8) the most classy of classy players, and also i think the Kiev goal was pretty magical too...i think there is enough eveidence there for UEFA to award the points to Kiev as it's obviously a Roma fan who threw the object, and Roma were trailing and a man down, Kiev deserve that, as did Leverkusen and well...Man U have drawn in their hardest game of the group, hopefully after another couple of weeks in my Journalism course i'll be able to give Ruud a call and see what he thought about it! :mrgreen:

[alizee_no1_fanuk]

hey jaycubed i watched that game last night,man they were awful,but as usual they picked up the pace and i thought they deserved there draw,super Ruud was outstanding again,took a while to fire up,but when he got going looked good,now we all await wayne rooney's first game,when will that be by the way??oh....and its nice to be back on the forum,had a few things going on,but all is ok again.

[Jaycubed]

Rooney's first game is in Approximately 2-3 weeks as Fergie says but...

I have inside info that he may be on the bench for the Liverpool match next Monday!! some vintage Fergie mind games again ya see, but anyway sticking to this thread, his first Champs league game will be probably the one against Sparta Prague in Matchday 3

[Los]

<<< AS ROMA, probably, will miss all the CL due to the crazy man who throwed a metal lighter to the swedish referee Frisk!

[toni_buenrollito]

Today, there will be a new matchday at the Champions with the following matches:

Mónaco-Deportivo (Mar. 20:45) Olympiacos-Liverpool (Mar. 20:45)
D. Kiev-B. Leverkusen (Mar. 20:45) Real Madrid-Roma (Mar. 20:45)
Bayern Munich-Ajax (Mar. 20:45) Juventus-M. Tel Aviv (Mar. 20:45)
M. United-Fenerbahce (Mar. 20:45) S. Praga-O. Lyon (Mar. 20:45)

There are some matches really interesting, like Real Madrid- Roma, with two teams in crisis (the team which loses will suffer a great blow... both teams have a new coach)... Monaco - Depor (we still remember the strange match of last year (8-3)... Bayern-Ajax (a great match between two big european teams), and the matches of Juventus and M.United, which shouldn't have a lot of problems to defeat Tel Aviv and Fenerbahce. Leverkusen is unable to do anything right ever since they crushed Real (bad results at german league). Liverpool has a tough game in Greece, but they should also win. Lyon is also favourite in Praha.

[Max_07s]

yehaaa..real madrid won 4-2..but thier defend so suck..i'm really angry with them..man u won too..hatrick in the 1st game..

[Nikodemus]

Yeh. Real has never been very defensive so 2 goals behind Casillas is not a surprise. But the important this is that they won. The stars started to score a lot. I hope it keeps this way.
München crushed Ajax 4-0.

[extremeR]

Guys, did you see Dinamo - Bayer match? Oh lala, it was something handsome!!!! :D :D

[toni_buenrollito]

Guys, did you see Dinamo - Bayer match? Oh lala, it was something handsome!!!! :D :D

Yeah! This year Dinamo Kyiv seems to be a very powerful team. In fact, they have a fantastic player, Verpakovskis (I knew him since the euro wiht Latvia). He's very fast. Moreover, Cernat and Rincon keep fit... And they have already a goal average of +5 and 6 points. They will pass to next round, along with Real :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Los]

Group Stage
Matchday 2
28/09/2004

Olympiacos 1-0 Liverpool
Monaco 2-0 Deportivo
Dynamo Kyiv 4-2 Leverkusen
Real Madrid 4-2 Roma
Bayern 4-0 Ajax
Juventus 1-0 M. Tel-Aviv
Man. United 6-2 Fenerbahçe
Sparta 1-2 Lyon

...oh my god! KEEP CLEAR to Manchester Utd. now! :mrgreen: :D

[Shamanoshuke]

Toni que andas que nunca te pasas por nuestro foro? bueno y para poner algo relacionado con el tema pondre.............VISCA BARÇA

[extremeR]

CSKA - PSG 2-0. Nice score, bad game. But anyway we have four points and it cannot be bad!

[Los]

Matchday 2
29 September 2004

PSV 1-0 Panathinaikos
Rosenborg 1-1 Arsenal
Barcelona 3-0 Shakhtar
Milan 3-1 Celtic :thumbup:
Anderlecht 1-3 Inter
Bremen 2-1 Valencia
Chelsea 3-1 Porto
CSKA Moskva 2-0 PSG

that's all!!!! :D 8) ...what's up to Arsenal? :idea: :?:

[Lía]

arsenal are poo... that's what's up with them!!

COME ON CHELSEA!!! (sorry... my family like them... i wanna c them win CL this year!!! porto suck! :mrgreen: muwhahahaha)

[Jaycubed]

Arsenal just have no belief in the CL is seems, which is pretty cool actually, they just look so shakey and their attacking play really is pretty average too...

While Man United, what can i say...Wayne Rooney...i think that's all i have to say :P :P

[Los]

ROOOOOOOOOONEY :mrgreen: :thumbup:

[DavidAlizée]

Well, i don't like Rooney.. But ill give him credit !!! was very good.. ok that was hard. im done lol.

[Max_07s]

yeah..1st game he scored hatrick..and all goal was a good goal..

[Joseph]

yeah,,, rooney and hatrick... yeah Hatrick seems like a cool guy. HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS?

[Lía]

^joesph... a HATRICK is when you score 3 goals in a game :mrgreen: (and i've never seen any soccer / football players called hatrick either....)

DAVIDALIZÉE - I totally agree with you :mrgreen:

[Max_07s]

do u think joseph dont know about hatrick? :roll:

[a.c. ajaccio]

i'd prefer henry than rooney but both are great players. Rooney still has a lot to do in his career so you can't judge him based on one game or even one season

[DavidAlizée]

do u think joseph dont know about hatrick? :roll:

he doesnt like football, its cool =)

[DavidAlizée]

Rooney was in the papers btw not long ago.. he cheated on his GF to go with a 48 year old slut from a brothel. He is fat n over rated imo..

But like a.c ajaccio said Henry is much better. totally in a diffirent class. I think Rooney would be a great player on Sunday league footy for a pub team.. ( Sorry Sean ) lol

[Joseph]

I DONT LIKE SOCCER?! DUDE. FORGET ABOUT IT. IF I had time to watch soccer i would watch it ! totally. and its so cool to play, only time i played was with some illegal Mexicans. THEY ROCKED THough. AND I HATE FOOTBALL. CAPITAL H. So you can continue being stereotypical about Americans, but im like an alien who lives in "EARTH"so i dont count;)
bach
can anyone answer this: how are these teams?
America :)
Mexico
Germany
Switzerland
and of course,
Ajaccio:)

with your help i can get into this cool sport that is IMO harder than American football.

and btw i knwo what a hattrick is. :)

[IronRodent]

America
Mexico
Germany
Switzerland
and of course,
Ajaccio:)


Ajaccio is not a country.

[Jaycubed]

i'm sorry but what Rooney does off the pitch doesn't change how amazing he is and ok he cheated and stuff but then his gf isn't as squeaky clean as people think...i should know rememer David! she stole money off me!!

and also Henry is a totally amazing player...but Rooney at 18 is light years ahead of what Henry was at Monaco at 18. And if Rooney does what he is doing now for the next 5 years...he'll be the best player in the world by a mile...He's the new Maradona! it's easy to see....as long as he doesn't go off the rails he'll rule the world, he's one of those players, who just is, naturally godly. (and i'm a member of the same health club as him :P )

as for the NFL like Joseph mentioned...i love it, Football and American footbal both rule

to answer your question...America in 'Soccer' are in the top ten in the world Rankings but they aren't as good as that, the ranking system is a little screwed, they aren't bad, but they aren't top 10. Though they have a 15 year old Kid called Freddy Adu who just might become one of the greatest players in the world...plays for DC United at the moment...keep an eye on him!!

Mexico aren't too bad, though they've been quiet for some years, easily gonna make it to the world Cup in....

Germany in 2006, Germany have major probs though, they aren't anything like the solid classy sides of the past, and they are gonna have to build a team round Michael Ballack in two years or they are gonna fail badly, having said that, they always manage to win somehow...

Switzerland are ok...they are top of their world cup qualifying group but a long way to go and they are doing nicely, exceeding expectations again

A.C. Ajaccio...i'm sure Ajaccien will tell us all in more detail but they are struggling in France's ligue 1...they were always gonna stuggle this season but a change of coach has seen an upturn in form for them, let's hope they can survive like they just did last season

Happy now??? :wink:

[Manu]

Wayne Rooney...i think that's all i have to say

Yeah, 'nuff said :mrgreen: I think he is a great player.

[Joseph]

wow focused locust, with a little more thought you might cure cancer, eh?

[Max_07s]

Rooney is just teenager now..he need a time to improve his skill..so..maybe he will be a great player in next 2-3 years..i guess..but for me..i choose zinedine zidane for my favourite and great player..

[DavidAlizée]

Rooney is young yes.. but he can never be in the same league as Zidane, Shearer ect.. Look at Owen.. i remember seeing his first ever England under16s.. he was "AMAZING".. no other words can describe his peformance against Brasil in that game. I seen lots more games from then on.. every game he was the star of the show. At 18 He played his first Liverpool game and was fantastic. Weeks later every monday night football ( Sean will know what i am talking about when i say Andy Grey, Richard keys ) they used to talk about how to stop Owen. He was running rings around defenders in the Premiership. 2 seasons ago .. he wasnt much good for liverpool.. he didnt score for like 9 games on streak. (ok every player goes through this crises sometime) but this happend to Owen more n more. Last season was very poor for him. Now he has moved from Liverpool, and i have to say imo.. he is No way the same player he was..

Goes to show getting older you can actually get worse. I like Owen alot though, i hope he gets to be the killer player he was when he was at Liverpool seasons ago. I knew if he was 1 on 1 with the keeper, its a goal. Now.. i bet he would miss .. as ive seen so many times lately.

As for Rooney.. where is his skill? I mean, hes what 18/19? he doesnt even celebrate... come on you plumb!! You need to celebrate its the best years of your life for christ sake.

[a.c. ajaccio]

:? he celebrated three times against fenerbache as far as i know, its not really as important as scoring goals anyway is it?

[DavidAlizée]

ive never seen him celebrate. Yes, ofc it is as important.. Scoaring a goal infont of thousands of people.. its an amazing feeling. He should be jumping with joy!!!

[Petsku1]

Rooney is young yes.. but he can never be in the same league as Zidane, Shearer ect.. Look at Owen.. i remember seeing his first ever England under16s.. he was "AMAZING".. no other words can describe his peformance against Brasil in that game. I seen lots more games from then on.. every game he was the star of the show. At 18 He played his first Liverpool game and was fantastic. Weeks later every monday night football ( Sean will know what i am talking about when i say Andy Grey, Richard keys ) they used to talk about how to stop Owen. He was running rings around defenders in the Premiership.
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2 seasons ago .. he wasnt much good for liverpool..he didnt score for like 9 games on streak. (ok every player goes through this crises sometime) but this happend to Owen more n more. Last season was very poor for him. Now he has moved from Liverpool, and i have to say imo.. he is No way the same player he was..
ok then you dont seem to know how much can injuries affect on the playing...
and how hard it is to get on the good streak after an injury

and last season... 16 goals... in the premier... i wouldnt say that it was a bad result....
yes i know he could've been better, but it also depends so much on the other players and tactics ....
he wasnt served as good as he was earlier
it's a teamplay you know. heh.

[DavidAlizée]

ok then you dont seem to know how much can injuries affect on the playing...
and how hard it is to get on the good streak after an injury



mmm, yeah. I forgot about the injury he had. Shame though.. if he never had that injury.. he could have been one of the best in the world.

[Petsku1]

not just one injury... a lot of injuries and it's truly shame yeah

[a.c. ajaccio]

I don't think he's the type of player who would try to blame his bad form on injuries, if players have enough determination they can recover and still be as good - look at Ronaldo, he had two injuries (both worse than Owens) and he's recovered and scored 30+ goals last season.

[Petsku1]

What has he done this season....nothing yet in 5 games.
(tho neither has Owen...heh...bad for Real)

but there was a better player material helping him in Real
to reach those goal amounts.

[a.c. ajaccio]

What has he done this season....nothing yet in 5 games.
(tho neither has Owen...heh...bad for Real)

but there was a better player material helping him in Real
to reach those goal amounts.

......he was still playing in (arguably) the best league in the world against world class defenders, and he's scored consistently in the champions league so i don't see how you can doubt his current ability :roll: . And judging a player based on the first five games of a season is just silly.

[DavidAlizée]

Sorry id have to say the best league in the world is the Premiership.

[Petsku1]

^yep i agree

......he was still playing in (arguably) the best league in the world against world class defenders, and he's scored consistently in the champions league so i don't see how you can doubt his current ability :roll: . And judging a player based on the first five games of a season is just silly.
hmm...i wasnt doubting his skills... i was just comparing their (Owen and Ronaldo) situation....
no player does those goals without the help of
the teammates... teamplay, you know.

[A. Gourmandises]

The Paris SG is very wrongly, always i say; that ruin.. :?

... :mrgreen:

[Los]

<<<<<<<<i can't wait 20th october... :D

[Max_07s]

me too..cant wait!!! i guess owen make a mistake go to madrid..i dont know..but its seem that he has to fight to get a position..

[DavidAlizée]

me too..cant wait!!! i guess owen make a mistake go to madrid..i dont know..but its seem that he has to fight to get a position..

That is the same at every club. I hardly think moving to Real Madrid is a mistake. :roll: more like a dream come true!

[A. Gourmandises]

The tuesday.. Deportivo la Coruña Vs Liverpool, that match :cheesy:

[Jaycubed]

goooo Depor!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

(Petteri...someone made me write this...i promise :wink: )

[Petsku1]

omg...why you little...........!!!

and i was hoping ManU to win against Arsenal...
to end their too long streak without no losses.

btw, when is the match?

[extremeR]

The match Real - Dinamo is gonna be something!!! Don't you think so? I guess it would be a good looking draw or one of teams will score a lot... :D

[Jaycubed]

omg...why you little...........!!!

and i was hoping ManU to win against Arsenal...
to end their too long streak without no losses.

btw, when is the match?

This Sunday!!!

[Goodfella]

10/24!!!! must win for MAN U, think we can do it as its at home but itll b tough playing against an arsenal side on an amazing run

[Nikodemus]

Michael Owen finally scored in Real's shirt. He scored the winning goal in Real Madrid - Dynamo Kyiv match. Too bad Leverkusen beated Roma so Real is third in Group B.
Today AC Milan - FC Barcelona. Must be a tough match.

[Los]

Group Stage - Matchday 3
19-20/10/2004

Monaco 2-1 Olympiacos
Liverpool 0-0 Deportivo
Real Madrid 1-0 Dynamo Kyiv
Leverkusen 3-1 Roma
Juventus 1-0 Bayern
Ajax 3-0 M. Tel-Aviv
Sparta 0-0 Man. United
Fenerbahçe 1-3 Lyon
Rosenborg 1-2 PSV
Panathinaikos 2-2 Arsenal
Milan 1-0 Barcelona 8)
Shakhtar 3-0 Celtic
Anderlecht 1-2 Bremen
Valencia 1-5 Internazionale
Chelsea 2-0 CSKA Moskva
PSG 2-0 Porto

CLASSIFICATION - GroupA
Monaco 6
Liverpool 4
Olympiakos 4
Deportivo La Coruna 2

CLASSIFICATION - GroupB
Dynamo Kiev 6
Bayer Leverkusen 6
Real Madrid 6
Roma 0

CLASSIFICATION - GroupC
Juventus 9
Bayern Monaco 6
Ajax 3
Maccabi Tel Aviv 0

CLASSIFICATION - GroupD
Olympique Lyon 7
Manchester United 5
Fenerbahce 3
Sparta Prague 1

CLASSIFICATION - GroupE
Psv Eindhoven 6
Arsenal 5
Panathinaikos 4
Rosenborg 1

CLASSIFICATION - GroupF
Milan AC 9
Barcelona FC 6
Shakhtar Donetsk 3
Celtic Glasgow 0

CLASSIFICATION - GroupG
Inter 9
Werder Brema 6
Valencia 3
Anderlecht 0

CLASSIFICATION - GroupH
Chelsea 9
Cska Mosca 4
Paris Saint-Germain 3
Porto 1

....that's all! 8)
see ya in November! :D

[DavidAlizée]

Michael Owen finally scored in Real's shirt. He scored the winning goal in Real Madrid - Dynamo Kyiv match. Too bad Leverkusen beated Roma so Real is third in Group B.
Today AC Milan - FC Barcelona. Must be a tough match.

Im glad for Owen.. hes had it tough lately

[Lía]

COME ON CHELSEA!!!

One more point n they r thru!!!!!!!!!!!!!

p.s. wel dun owen 4 scoring ur 1st goal!

[Petsku1]

GO OWEN! ....and he did too score against Azerbaidzhan the 0-1 winning goal.

[Jaycubed]

which means he's on a consecutive game scoring streak, looks like big mike is back 8)

[Max_07s]

owen scored to help real win against valencia...yeah!!!! go real.!! go owen too..2 goals in a week...good perfomance dude... :P

[Petsku1]

WOPIEE! :P ...omg im cheering for Real at the same time...heh

[extremeR]

I'd like to aks you what's your parlay about the next CSKA - Chelsea match.
I'm just curious whether Abramovich is an idiot or not.

[Los]

I'm sorry man but i think Abramovich's team will win that match!
:roll:

too strong CHELSEA!

[extremeR]

I'm sorry man but i think Abramovich's team will win that match!
:roll:

too strong CHELSEA!Well, perhaps you do not know. The key point here is that both Chelsea and CSKA are somehow Abramovich's teams!!! It means that it would be very silly of him if Chelsea will not lose or draw at least. Besides Chelsea is gonna be on top of the group H anyway.

[AS Monaco]

HEY, Monaco is on the same way as last year!! :mrgreen:

NO not really, but I hope that they are strong enough to reach the next round!!

FERNANDO MONACO NEEDS YOU
and Ludovic and Jerome!!!!!

[Los]

I think MILAN AC will play against Real Madrid for the next CL's round!!!

...come one Maldini&Co.! 8) :thumbup:


p.s. hey AS Monaco, do u like 18 italian's singer Anna Tatangelo? :D
koooooooooool :cheesy:

[tern]

I cheer for Leverkusen this time around.

[Manu]

HEY, Monaco is on the same way as last year!! :mrgreen:

NO not really, but I hope that they are strong enough to reach the next round!!

FERNANDO MONACO NEEDS YOU
and Ludovic and Jerome!!!!!

Go pibito Saviola! 8)

[Pedro Juanito]

Very bad that CSKA not go to the next round - this team is best in Russia.I think that Milan and Barca will win this league - most strong teams!And Real......)) - it's only shoy-team.Real willn't win any tropheys in this season.

[Max_07s]

yeah..i'm very sad with real madrid..they ould buy a young star player... i think a game between cheasea and barcelona...real madrid vs juve..ac milan vs man u will be a great game..