How true is this?

[John]

Question: Live or lip-sync?

Alizee: Live! When I go on stage, lip-syncing is out of the question, even if it’s not simple dancing choreography all while controlling your voice.

Taken from an article in the press section.


Also adding this:

Question: You don't like to talk about your private life much. Do you understand that that can frustrate your fans?

Alizee: No. I think my fans like me for my music and not for my private life. For example, for me Madonna is my idol. I do everything to find her music videos, her songs... But her private life doesn't interest me.

Respectable answer, but cmon now. I am near positive at one point in her life Brad Pitt's private life was or still is of an interest to her as she is one of his fans.

[squeaky ladida]

the way she feels about things changes, and there are many "tiers" of being a fan too, hehe

i remember seeing that live v lip-sync question somewhere else, i remember it referring to her concert, but maybe this is referring to any performance...
maybe mylene just wants to deny it.... kinda like the US Gov't still denies Delta Force's existence...

[DavidAlizée]

yet another lip-sync thread.. whats the big deal if she lip-syncs or not...?

[squeaky ladida]

lip sync was only half the thread :P

it just took a little while for me to get used to the synching, in america everyone performs live and before alizée, i had seen the most live performances by green day and dido, both of whom perform live, so i wasn't really expecting it, but yeah, i'm getting used to it now.
though i still like live more....

anyway, any more comments on the 2nd part of his query?

[Ayan]

The first question... She was most probably answering about concerts and not about tv performances. I dont think anyone is "trying to deny it or hide it", they dont even notice it and are not making a big deal out of it. Has any european made a big deal out of the whole lipsynding thing? No. Only americans. Its a cultural difference. Just let it be.

I think She has every right to protect Her privacy. So Her second answer is very good.

[Backinblack]

Yes, the first question was talking about her concerts. "scène" (stage) isn't an easy word to translate without losing some meaning and making it sound good in context, but it means "concert stage", whereas in English we could say stage and be talking about a TV appearance.

The second question, I think Alizée is wrong. It's natural for fans to want to know more about their favorite artists, especially young artists. There's a limit, of course, to how deep they should pry, but let's look at it realistically, not all of her fans like her solely for her music. However, you can see through her interviews that she has revealed very much about herself to the public.

[John]

Her answers are fine. But I just think they are untrue.

When I first discovered Alizee someone told me she sings live almost everytime. However it seems she almost always lip-sync. It didn't matter to me too much, at least not until I read her response about this issue. Its obvious people sound better when lip-syncing but that is not the point here.

DavidAlizée:
First of all this thread is not about lip-sync. It is about how truthful some of the answers she gives to some of the questions people ask. She doesn't need to be honest, thats fine, but I was only asking if what she said is truth or not. Perhaps a title of "Is Alizee telling the truth?" might better understand you the thread. However I did not think that was necessary.

And as for the 2nd question...I just think she is lying. Sure the case might be true for Madonna but I am pretty sure she wouldn't say that about Brad Pitt whom she is a fan of also. Once again, her response is excellent. I do agree her private life is her own, but when she says others private life aren't of interest to her...its a lie(my opinion).

I think She has every right to protect Her privacy. So Her second answer is very good.
Well Ayan, once again that is not the question here. Is she being truthful or not...yes her answer is respectable.

I also read that she would rather not comment than to say a lie in an interview. When I get the exact quote I'll post it here.

[Moco]

So if you say she said she doesn't lie in interviews then why would you think she's lying in those cases? Maybe she really isn't interested in celebrity's private lives. Why is that so hard to believe? And perhaps for her it's different since she herself is a celebrity. She's probably too busy too care about other people's private lives when she has so much to do for herself.

[Ayan]

When I first discovered Alizee someone told me she sings live almost everytime.
You just misunderstood that "someone" or that "someone" gave you false information. Whatever the case is, Alizée has not lied about it.
Please learn more about Her, before calling Her a liar. She never does that. People keep asking Her about "Her latest lie", and they get their answer - She doesnt lie.
Personally i think thats one of Her best qualities.

" she says others private life aren't of interest to her..." - meaning, She is not going around, trying to find out about these things, and showing respect towards those people. Thats not a lie. Just something, that 'could' be understood in different ways.

Once again, dont call Her a liar just because of misunderstandings and lack of your own knowledge.

[Jaycubed]

Yep you see John, there are so many things to consider here...

She does prefer singing live, that is no way untrue, but then what is she meant to do really, sing live all the time, and everyone then says, 'why does she never dance'? and then there is the fact of her having a great voice in her live performances cos she doesn't sing herself into a bad voice....

Some people are always gonna moan and pick holes in something...and John just an observation but you seem to do it in 99% of the posts you make, you say you really like her, but you never say, 'this the reason i like her' it's always 'this is what i don't like about her' Also rememeber that all the Americans when they come to England, they only ever lip-sync too, i can't remember the last time i heard an american singer sing live over here....so pot calling the kettle black indeed

And also as Moco said, why does it have to be untrue...Alizée may have not been interested in others personal lives, and so why would she say otherwise? So then she is also being truthful there...so really why try and pick holes in everything and keep getting proved incorrect, i mean you like her don't you John? you don't seem like you do... :roll:

[jon]

He's not calling her a liar, he said it seems that she is lying and he wants to check with the forum. He has a question not a conclusion.

[Jaycubed]

well actually Jon...

John says 'Her answers are fine. But I just think they are untrue'

Well to me John, 'I think they are untrue' means 'i think she she is not telling the truth' So what are we meant to derive from that?

[jon]

Why would he pose the question if he had already come to a conclusion? I don't think he wants to hear that she is lying that's why he asked us. Unless he is just trying to bask her character, which I don't think he would do.

[Jaycubed]

he seems to like picking holes in her career and anything Alizée though Jon....i mean look at most of his posts, the general core emphasis of his posts are..

'I like Alizée, but....'

everytime he has something he wishes to critisize, doubt, question...so on past experience he is just doing this again...the only thing he praised is Mot on his video (which is so right) but that's still not praising Alizée it seems he only wants to raise doubt and questions negative about Alizée

[jon]

I see you point. It may not be that he dislikes her, it could be that he just always posts questions, doubt, critiques, etc. because he doesn't have much to say about her good qualities. Not that he doesn't think she has any, but that he doesn't have anything to add to what others say. After all he is the one who keeps badgering people to get her voted Miss 2004 on that poll site. But I see your question nevertheless.

[Jaycubed]

yeah, i'm glad we kinda see each others points, and well maybe cos i'm the opposite, i love to Lavish praise and compliment her cos i love her and she's so beautiful in everyway....it does kinda annoy me when all people seem to do is to doubt, and question and such...cos i have a passion that jumps to defend her all the time, and i always will...anyway let's leave at this

[John]

When I first discovered Alizee someone told me she sings live almost everytime. However it seems she almost always lip-sync. It didn't matter to me too much, at least not until I read her response about this issue. Its obvious people sound better when lip-syncing but that is not the point here.
My finishing words were that is not the point. I was only making a reference to something I was told and using it as an example. Obviously I have done my research and eventually found out it was false information. I have to be careful what I use as an example here it seems.

She doesnt lie.
That is your opinion and I have my own.

So once again:
Question: Live or lip-sync?

Alizee: Live! When I go on stage, lip-syncing is out of the question, even if it’s not simple dancing choreography all while controlling your voice.

However true or not true that is , please feel free to give references to when she DOES and DOESN't lip sync. Why she does/doesn't, well it doesn't matter, just how truthful her answer is is my curiousness.


" she says others private life aren't of interest to her..." - meaning, She is not going around, trying to find out about these things, and showing respect towards those people. Thats not a lie. Just something, that 'could' be understood in different ways.

Once again, dont call Her a liar just because of misunderstandings and lack of your own knowledge.
I do not misunderstand or I don't feel I misunderstand her responses. For the first question we can easily prove that her answer is inaccurate(I'll use innacurate instead of lie).

Please learn more about Her, before calling Her a liar.
I know enough about her to give an opinion.

[DavidAlizée]

Yeah John.. why is it you always look on the bad side when talking about Alizée ? ...

[Moco]

Your question about lip-syncing was already answered. Yes, she does lip-sync most of the time when she's performing for a TV show (although there are a handful of performances where she sings live). But when she performs in concert, she never, ever lip-syncs. Those of us who have been to the concerts can attest to this. Hell, you can even listen to the bootlegs. I think you may have missed Mark's post where he clarified what Alizée meant by singing on stage:

Yes, the first question was talking about her concerts. "scène" (stage) isn't an easy word to translate without losing some meaning and making it sound good in context, but it means "concert stage", whereas in English we could say stage and be talking about a TV appearance.

[Ayan]

Please learn more about Her, before calling Her a liar.
I know enough about her to give an opinion.
No john, you THINK you know enough. Stop being so ignorant.

Oh and stop quoting the lipsyncing question all the time. Bib said the translation is not accurate, you are only making a fool out of yourself, when you keep brining up "accusations" based on false information.

[John]

JayCubed:
Am I not in the Opinions/Questions Forums? I am glad you like to defend Alizee 24/7 but that in no way makes you more of a fan than myself. I am very curious about Alizee in all aspects, the good with the bad. Alizee herself is a very curious person.

If she is lying, big deal. She has had it with interviews I am sure. However nothing wrong with questioning her answers.

*busy cannot finish rest of post at the moment*

[Jaycubed]

i never said it makes me more of a fan than you, i am not the one competing here it seems about who is a bigger fan. i don't mind how big or small really, it doesn't come into it as much, i know i'm a big fan and i love her very much, and really i was curious why you almost exclusively concentrate on the negative of a star you supposedly so admire, not an argument, a discussion

[John]

Ayan:
First off BIB corrected that not too long ago. Even for a concert stage...I would still like to know if its true or not. Because of 1 bad word translation I am suddenly wrong. Now we know the real translation so lets know if she really always sings all her songs live at her concerts.
she never, ever lip-syncs.
Great question answered, however I would like more input because your answer may not be fully accurate.

The only thing that might be wrong is my opinion on the subjecs since all I did was ask a few questions and state my opinion about it. Many of you seem to want to shoot me down because of curious and odd threads I usually start. Besides all the flaming that goes around I am sure people actually learn a thing or two they read in these threads.

[/quote]i never said it makes me more of a fan than you...[/quote]
First off when I get things like "Yeah John.. why is it you always look on the bad side when talking about Alizée " people think I am not a fan. Many actually believe they are more of a fan than I am...could be true but I was just stating it is not necessarily true.

(so many attacks towards me, hard to reply ...and we can continue the fun when I get home from work :) )

[Ayan]

Your behavior is unbelivable.
You hear "something from somewhere" and you start to think that it is the absolute truth even when people correct your mistake.
And then, just because of a minor thing like this, you start calling Her a liar, when you havent even learned enough about Her.
And dont give me that arrogant crap again, you know nothing and only accuse Alizée.
If Alizée would really be your favorite singer as you say,then you wouldnt act the way you do.
It makes me think that perhaps its you who is lying here. So stop that.

You want to learn something about Alizée? Fine, but this is not the way you learn something about an artist.
You dont go around bashing Her, accusing Her in things that are not true.
You say you are new and want to ask questions? Then do it with respect and loose the negative attitude towards Her.

[jon]

Ayan, if he was really calling her a liar and bashing her, would he be trying to make her Miss 2004? He just has some questions and wants to be sure of the answers. And now that he figured out that his first information was false, he wants a completely verified answer.

And if he thinks she said a little lie then why doesn't he have the right to lable her a "liar"? Isn't even a minor lie a lie nonetheless? And why are you accusing him of being arrogant? Is this just a thing you do with people named "jo(h)n"? :wink:

[touring21]

Just curious... how many lip-syncing threads are we going to have around here? Jeez, who gives a sh!#. It has been stated adnauseum that Alizee syncs during TV apperances but not in concert. By her and those who have seen her concerts.

I smell a locked thread coming.

[John]

I'll start over since I was at work and couldn't concentrate so much.

Ayan:
When I said "When I first discovered Alizee someone told me she sings live almost everytime."
Obviosuly, that was when I FIRST discovered Alizee. I was using it as an example since it was in a way related to my question.


Jaycubed you wrote: "and John just an observation but you seem to do it in 99% of the posts you make, you say you really like her, but you never say, 'this the reason i like her' it's always 'this is what i don't like about her'"
Observation? and you say 99%...nice observation.

Jaycubed wrote:
And also as Moco said, why does it have to be untrue...Alizée may have not been interested in others personal lives, and so why would she say otherwise? So then she is also being truthful there...so really why try and pick holes in everything and keep getting proved incorrect, i mean you like her don't you John? you don't seem like you do...
She may or may not have been interested. My opinion is that she was/is at some moment I bet. Opinion is not meant to be true or false...don't put words in my mouth.
And as for liking her...I bought a $200 dollar + mp3 player, ordered her cd's, ordered a new harddrive to store her videos, talked about her on other forums and to my friends, emailed her and alot more. Trying to make some custom Tshirts relating to her...are you making such another great observation when you seem to think I don't like her?


Jaycubed wrote:
everytime he has something he wishes to critisize, doubt, question...so on past experience he is just doing this again...the only thing he praised is Mot on his video (which is so right) but that's still not praising Alizée it seems he only wants to raise doubt and questions negative about Alizée
You are so wrong... I won't even go there. I praise Alizee in my own ways. However when I come to these forums, especially the Opinion/Question forum, I am here to do exactly that. This is one of my main sources of learning about Alizee. Feel free to flame me throughout my threads but it is you who are making her look bad, I am just asking simple questions. Just because I think it is one way doesn't make it true...I would think that is a given. I am not the best poster and if I make one little mistake or ask a borderline question about Alizee I get shot down fast and hard.

DavidAlizee wrote:
Yeah John.. why is it you always look on the bad side when talking about Alizée ? ...
I am stating my opinion whether it be from too much knowledge or lack of knowledge doesn't matter. I am here to discuss issues about Alizee and when I read those certain responses they caught me by surprise. Also, I am not here to look on the bad side. I am just exporing areas about her that we don't read about often. True or untrue, if its bad we shouldn't hide from it or ignore it. Example(and don't respond to this example as that is all it is an example and do not wish to go off subject).Her boob job(If she did / didn't get one)... this has mixed emotions good and bad. I am for it, she looks great and better than ever. There are some things people just want to deny no matter what...that is fine but as long as we discuss our opinions about it no harm is done.(Again just an example so ignore).


Ayan wrote:
Your behavior is unbelivable.
I am sorry my approach to questions/opinions about Alizee are not to your liking. I highly doubt my behavior in this thread was unbelievable...more that you disagree with me which is a good way to discuss things. Also the error about the translation...its a small error, even so the question remains the same just apply it to her concerts only.


touring21 wrote:
Just curious... how many lip-syncing threads are we going to have around here? Jeez, who gives a sh!#. It has been stated adnauseum that Alizee syncs during TV apperances but not in concert. By her and those who have seen her concerts.

I smell a locked thread coming.
This is rediculous, my english is already not at its best but it seems you people cannot read a thread. Her lip-syncing is only a small part that helps answer if Alizee's ANSWER to an INTERVIEW QUESTION was accurate. Also there is a second question that is exactly that...a question relating to an answer Alizee provided. Not lip-syncing.

Question one with facts can be given a true yes or no answer.
Question two since only Alizee can answer and did can only be based on our opinion if we believe her or not. Discuss opinions, don't flame people for them. Considering her liking of certain people such as Brad pitt or johnny depp or bruce willis or Leonardo decaprio...considering that it is hard to hear her say that their private lives never interested her.

And I see no reason for this thread to be locked...perfectly fine discussion where people just flame me for trying to learn some more about Alizee. No matter how much knowledge I know I will keep asking questions...and not to be lame but shall I say it again...this is a forum for Opinions and Quesions about Alizee.

[DavidAlizée]

John, i think you better just shut up... What are you trying to do? tell everyone on this forum there wrong and your right? ... go back to bed and wake up again. :wink:

Now i know why Alizée didnt go to the US... So she doesnt have to deal with people like you.

[squeaky ladida]

Now i know why Alizée didnt go to the US... So she doesnt have to deal with people like you.
now don't be assuming everyone on that... :cry:

now for my little bit of input
about the whole thing about her lying in her live performance thingy
a) she may well be talking about her concert. This isn't an ultra accurate translation, no offense Mark, and was done with quantity in mind, tons of articles to translate, about 30 mins a piece. Not every word was refined and you should probably read it in french and context and even with a bit of common sense when you think of what the real meaning is.

b) that is all that I shall say for now, Ground Control II beckons

[Z3R0]

one of the reasons why i dont want Alizée to come over here to the states is cos of people like ^^ (not saying your always like this) and other stuff

[John]

3-5 people is everyone on this forum? I was just being more specific since for the slightest errors I get shot down.

I am the one getting attacked here...don't hate me for it. People are going out of line and they are infact being rediculous.... just like your last sentence about the US. If anything so far on this discussion is inappropriate is your last remark.

Are there really that few that can participate in a question about Alizee without flaming someone because their opinion is slightly different than yours? Even if their opinion is an extreme opposite you can still respect it without believing it.

What are you trying to do? tell everyone on this forum there wrong and your right?
Obviously not, I am getting attacked here and trying to prove my point. As for question 2, no one is right or wrong...it is just what we believe. It is entirely opinion. Question one can actually be answered with facts.

On a side note, its quite rediculous how some of you are trying to hunt me down on the topics I bring up. Whether it is this one or the past threads, its rediculous.

Example of something rediculous: If I had a choice between myself dying or Alizee dying...I bet I would get flamed if I chose her to die. I will probably get flamed for using that as an example...its rediculous.

[Ayan]

However when I come to these forums, especially the Opinion/Question forum, I am here to do exactly that. This is one of my main sources of learning about Alizee. Feel free to flame me throughout my threads but it is you who are making her look bad, I am just asking simple question

You're a bright one, aren't you john?
This is indeed questions and opinions section. Good observation.
Tell me, how do you think this topic should have evolved?

You voice your opinions and then people share theirs? - That happened already.
You maybe want people to correct your fact-mistakes, so that you would know better next time? - That also happened.
Then of course, perhaps you wanted to learn something about this whole subject? - Okay, you've learned a little bit from Alizée too.
Now stop arguing whether you are a reasonable down to earth guy who can make reasonable posts or not. Noone cares about you, this is not a forum dedicated to you.

Strange. People often make threads in this section. They often ask questions about Alizée and voice their opinions. Yet you are one of the few who manages to stir up negativity so much.
Besides,noone has flamed you... so far. You dont even know how a real flaming looks like, so stop asking for it.

[Manu]

Oh wow, what a long thread to only solve this little issue. So to keep it simple: Moco is right, when an artist has to perform on a TV stage, he or she is asked for lip-synching, just cos it must sound better or whatever (sorry, I'm not an expert in telecommunications). But in a concert, for example a performance at Le Zenith in Paris (and in the whole tour around France), she, Alizée, did sing live.
And the most incredible thing: she was able to dance amazingly well at the same time lol :D :mrgreen:

[Moco]

Ok, all this flaming has got to stop. If you have answers to John's questions, fine. If all you're gonna do is question whether or not he's really a fan, you're much better off just ignoring this thread. Everyone's here because they like Alizée and it's perfectly OK to have some criticisms as long as it's done in a respectful way.

Now...about the lip-syncing. I have some quotes from various magazine interviews that further prove that she sung live in concert.

Hit Machine Girl (http://www.alizee-fanpage.com/page.php?language=ger&content=showpress&id=183&lang=gb):
Do you have a funny anecdote?
A: One night, I messed up the lyrics to "Moi... Lolita." All the spectators thought that I did it on purpose when in fact, I had a memory slip. Fortunately, the public came to my aid!

Salut (http://www.alizee-fanpage.com/page.php?language=ger&content=showpress&id=190&lang=gb):
How did you prepare yourself physically?
A: Ouch, ouch ouch! At first, it was horrendous. I followed a regimen with a coach in a training room, every afternoon. Not to build muscle, but to have better breathing. Which allows you to sing and dance at the same time. But it was, hello stiffness! At first, I couldn't even squat down anymore! Easy for tying your shoes!
Stars Live (http://www.alizee-fanpage.com/page.php?language=ger&content=showpress&id=192&lang=gb):
Many artists from the Restos du Coeur group came to applaud you. Whose presence touched you the most?
A: Maxime Le Forestier's. I was very moved to see him afterward, backstage. He's the one who took me in when I got into the Enfoirés for the first time. He's someone very critical, who always says what's on his mind.

What was his reaction after your concert?
A: He came to see me and told me: "You didn't sing one note out of tune"...That was the most beautiful compliment that anyone could have said about me! I'm afraid I won't be able to participate in the Restos du Coeur this year because I'll be in the middle of my tour. But I'll do my utmost to come give them a little hello.
On top of all this, ask anyone who's been to at least one of the concerts, including myself. She did indeed sing live. I also mentioned bootleg recordings before. Every single one of them sounds different and none of them sound "perfect" as if they were lip-synced.

[John]

However when I come to these forums, especially the Opinion/Question forum, I am here to do exactly that. This is one of my main sources of learning about Alizee. Feel free to flame me throughout my threads but it is you who are making her look bad, I am just asking simple question

You're a bright one, aren't you john?
This is indeed questions and opinions section. Good observation.
Tell me, how do you think this topic should have evolved?

You voice your opinions and then people share theirs? - That happened already.
You maybe want people to correct your fact-mistakes, so that you would know better next time? - That also happened.
Then of course, perhaps you wanted to learn something about this whole subject? - Okay, you've learned a little bit from Alizée too.
Now stop arguing whether you are a reasonable down to earth guy who can make reasonable posts or not. Noone cares about you, this is not a forum dedicated to you.

Strange. People often make threads in this section. They often ask questions about Alizée and voice their opinions. Yet you are one of the few who manages to stir up negativity so much.
Besides,noone has flamed you... so far. You dont even know how a real flaming looks like, so stop asking for it.

First off, I was flame...not to the real extent of a real flame...however this forums are moderated and that would be deleted anyway when it got to extreme. And forums about me? If you even think that crossed me mind once your hilarious.

And your just a waste of my time now....hopefully people will pick up and stick to topic.

[Manu]

I also remember that I read about an affair in Italy, when her mic fell to the ground and the song kept playing. Some impolite people shouted 'Go home!', if I remember well.

PS: oh c'mon guys, do not go off topic with those kind of useless discussions :cry:

[John]

Ouch , if that really is true can't really get worse than that in a live performance :(.

[touring21]

Ouch , if that really is true can't really get worse than that in a live performance :(.

Indeed. That is rough. Does anyone know what happened after? I hope she just picked it up and kept on. Me... I would have been frozen solid with stage fright after that.

[Moco]

Here's what happened. It was at one of the rehearsals for Festivalbar last year. She was rehearsing in front of a crowd, doing her thing, then the CD player started having some problems and stopped playing. Like Manu mentioned, some idiots in the crowd started booing and told her to go back home. She gave a polite "grazie mille" and then left the stage. Backstage she was too sad and upset to sign autographs or even look at the fans who showed up.

Luckily, as we all know, everything went fine when it was time to do the actual performance.

[touring21]

Here's what happened. It was at one of the rehearsals for Festivalbar last year. She was rehearsing in front of a crowd, doing her thing, then the CD player started having some problems and stopped playing. Like Manu mentioned, some idiots in the crowd started booing and told her to go back home. She gave a polite "grazie mille" and then left the stage. Backstage she was too sad and upset to sign autographs or even look at the fans who showed up.

Luckily, as we all know, everything went fine when it was time to do the actual performance.

Oh man, I know it happened a long time ago, but I feel bad for her. How rude of them! Sad, just sad.

[squeaky ladida]

wow, i didn't know that happened...
it's not like any artist is supposed to rehearse for you....
at least she was able to continue at the real performace

wait, singers rehearse in front of crowds? I didn't know that...

[loveherfromusa]

for the slightest errors I get shot down.

I am the one getting attacked here...don't hate me for it. If anything so far on this discussion is inappropriate is your last remark.

Even if their opinion is an extreme opposite you can still respect it without believing it.

On a side note, its quite rediculous how some of you are trying to hunt me down on the topics I bring up.

Example of something rediculous: If I had a choice between myself dying or Alizee dying...I bet I would get flamed if I chose her to die. I will probably get flamed for using that as an example...its rediculous.

Here is the problem as I see it: Why can't we have strong, opinionated disagreements on this forum without someone taking it personally? I want to be able to say that someone's statement is crap and still have an intelligent discussion. Sounds like a contradiction, but it isn't. If you find that almost everyone (by everyone, I don't mean a few people, but almost all who post after you) disagrees with you, then think about what you said. Getting defensive doesn't help. I can disagree with many on this forum on specific points, but because this is an Alizée fan site, I only disagree fundamentally with those who are negative about her to the point of not really being a fan. What are they doing here anyway? Stand up for your self. If you are wrong, learn and move on - don't feel bad about it. If you think you are right, defend your self without worrying about others.

Love for her conquers all.

[John]

Here is the problem as I see it: Why can't we have strong, opinionated disagreements on this forum without someone taking it personally? I want to be able to say that someone's statement is crap and still have an intelligent discussion.

We are almost to a point where we can except for a few individuals that ruin it all. I myself do not take it personally, but some people very much do so and can only respond with hate towards the one they disagree with.

[Joseph]

"Here is the problem as I see it: Why can't we have strong, opinionated disagreements on this forum without someone taking it personally? I want to be able to say that someone's statement is crap and still have an intelligent discussion."

This is alright, and if equipped with the appropiate evidence perfect, in other places. The Alizée forum is a lighthouse among all the other forums/websites on the internet, and thus we do not need people coming in and making a huge ruckess, swinging their arms and then they leave. It is not hard to see why retaliation is so natural; Alizée is a subject we all hold dear, and as such, defend. So it should come as no surprise when people, "take it personally" because to many of us, it is personal.

[John]

Well there are better ways to get your point across. If there was a flame forum that wasn't moderated, I would say go for it and flame me. However when that is not the case everyone should be entitled to their own opinions without getting attacked. Disagreements are great discussions and you can possibly change a person's opinion on the issue, but do that in a respectful way.

Alot of this thread was constant bickering which I don't think anyone cares to hear about.

I myself agree that I take many things personaly. However it is hard to take it personal when someone is just expressing their opinion and is not meaning any harm.

If my style of raising questions on certain issues and expressing my opinion aren't to certain people's liking they can just ignore the post if they have nothing useful to say.

[loveherfromusa]

Just to be contrary, I'd like to go back to one of the original questions. I have a book called Alizée de A à Z, written by Thomas Champ. It is one of a series on artists. It was printed last year. It discusses many aspects of her life in alphabetical order (Ajaccio to World Music Awards - didn't make it to Z). There are also many interviews online. If you want to know details of her private life, I hope you are out of luck. I wish I were involved with her private life, but that is a dream. She should be able to have a part of her life that isn't public. A google search is worth doing as well.

[John]

Another question from one of the interviews:

Interview Question: No desire to try your luck in the United States?
Alizee: No I feel too little for that. And it wouldn't be a life to be known in the entire world.

What does she mean when she says "I feel too little for that?" Too little as not prepared or too little as in she doesn't care for it very much? Or something totally different ?

[Mr Bond]

Too young maybe or worried that it would overwhelm her? Just speculating no real answer except of course to ask the lovely lady herself. :D

[squeaky ladida]

you know which interview that came from?
the translation might not have really implied the true meaning too well (no offense to the translater)

[Backinblack]

When people have questions like this about the interviews, it helps to provide the link to the interview or at least give the year and the name of the magazine.

the translation might not have really implied the true meaning too well (no offense to the translater)
None taken. :P

I don't remember the exact interview, but I'm pretty sure she said in French, "Je me sens trop petite pour ça." Literally, "I feel too little for that." Little compared to other international artists like Britney, Mariah, etc. Especially given her Corsican roots where the mainland of France and especially Paris seemed big to her, not to mention the United States. Definitely too little in the sense of not being prepared, not meaning a lack of talent on her part, but a lack of experience, being a little too young maybe. And, on a physical level, a little insecurity about her height.

[John]

Yeah I'll make sure to make note of which magazine article and or date it was from. Been reading so many no way I'll remember which one it was :)