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mot
26th July 2004, 01:20
While I was browsing thru my pics I stumbled upon this strange thingy.

1) What's the thingy in her right hand? It kinda looks like a drink!
2) Who's the girl? She doesn't wear the outfit of the dancers. If she were from the audience, why did she jump that pole? ;)

http://users.pandora.be/mot/css/brol/whatthehell.jpg

ps: maybe use this topic if you have other questions about other pics?

DavidAlizée
26th July 2004, 01:26
wow, yes it does look like a red drink. of some kind.

The girl on the pole i think.. is michoko..

Petsku1
26th July 2004, 01:27
yea like you and i said earlier... i think it's a glass of champagne maybe...cos of the last show... or i dunno any other reason

no idea about the other girl

Ceaser
26th July 2004, 01:29
The girls is probely from the audience and it looks to me more like another microfone in her hand and shes holding it up to the girl to say someting or to sing along with her wile dancing on the pole.

Manu
26th July 2004, 03:01
I had never seen that pic... so yeah what the hell... :?:

squeaky ladida
26th July 2004, 04:15
yeah seriously, that girl is kinda random right there....
and i've seen Alizée with a baton of some sort in some of her other concert vids
can't really tell quite clearly from this pic, but i can't get anything from it

Moco
26th July 2004, 10:11
As someone pointed out, the girl is Michoko, one of the dancers. I believe her real name is Laetitia.

As for the thing in the hand, it looks like she's holding a bouquet of roses or flowers. The picture looks like it's taken during A contre-courant, which is when she touches hands with the audience and has the opportunity to take their gifts.

haloraven
26th July 2004, 10:44
ill DL the pic and do some color correcting and editing on it...lets see what i can pull out of it.

Ayan
26th July 2004, 12:10
ill DL the pic and do some color correcting and editing on it...lets see what i can pull out of it.
Oh hey, replace the dancers head with your's maybe ?



If Alizée is really holding a glass on Her hand, then it should be from Zenith concert, right? ( Because of the whole ending-concert-tour thing ), and yet people who went in zenith, didnt mention anything about the glass.
Besides, isnt this pic the only one with the "glass" ?
Im sorry, i just cant figure out why would She drink onstage. And where is the bottle ?

mot
26th July 2004, 13:59
She's wearing a totally different outfit then the other dancers, or do they change outfit too during the concert?

I have this pic with the dancers, and she doesn't look like any of those. And in ActuAlizée it says she only has 4 dancers so they're all there.

http://users.pandora.be/mot/css/brol/JAMarre_Reims120.jpg

(It could be the girl all to the right? With alot of imagination)

Ayan
26th July 2004, 14:02
Then ... could it be a fake pic ?
Especially suspicious is this little shine-effect near the hand of the girl. And of course the girl is a bit too close to Alizée - almost pushing Her away.

mot
26th July 2004, 14:03
As for that thingy, it could be flowers, but it's not sticking out. Must be very small flowers then :s

I can only think of 2 reasons why she would drink onstage: for celibrating or for voice. But I've seen many concerts other then Alizée's, where they use a bottle and not a champagne glass ;/

Rodrigo
26th July 2004, 17:13
well its a kind of a plastic sticks

squeaky ladida
26th July 2004, 19:30
geez, y'all also know the name of the dancers too?! lol
well, when actually drinking for voiceness, most artists i've seen have used bottles of water or a wider cup of... soda (DC opener for Dido)

it could be that whole "last concert of tour" champagne thing, but i wouldn't know anything about that

and that girl looks really happy.... like, REALLY happy... maybe even happiness and hyperactive at the same time.... or maybe.... ok, i'll stop now

haloraven
26th July 2004, 20:57
Wow Ayan your a smart ass, though I dont think this is a fake picture the lighting on both the dancer and Alizèe is too good, and all the colors match around the figures, so really if it were an edit "cut and paste" job there would be major pixel disorientation around each figure.
It does seem though that she is holding a glass thats for sure, but in the class could be just about anything, It seems to have a red hue to it though that might be due to lighting, I would guess either champagne or some kind of wine, but for most wine you would not use a glass like that, unless shes the kind of girl that does not drink, then that could explain red soda or some kind of juice. But from the quality size of the picture its too hard to tell for sure.

squeaky ladida
26th July 2004, 21:00
it could still be doctored, i'm not suggesting it is though
pixel disorientation, like anything else, can be fixed, and it's not that hard either
and Alizée doesn't stay away from champagne, at least not in SAD 2k3

haloraven
26th July 2004, 21:03
well if it were a fan who created the picture, that would be a hell of a lot of work especially gettingthe lighting on both of them exactly right, which at lest to me it seems its spot on.

Moco
26th July 2004, 21:04
She's wearing a totally different outfit then the other dancers, or do they change outfit too during the concert?

I have this pic with the dancers, and she doesn't look like any of those. And in ActuAlizée it says she only has 4 dancers so they're all there.

http://users.pandora.be/mot/css/brol/JAMarre_Reims120.jpg

(It could be the girl all to the right? With alot of imagination)
I don't remember the dancers changing outfits during the concert, but that's because I was only paying attention to Alizée. But it's safe to assume they did, since if Alizée has time to, then why not the dancers? Especially since they don't perform in every song.

Also this picture is from early in the concert during J'en ai marre while the first pic you posted is from A contre-courant, the 2nd to last song. So there's plenty of time to change outfits right there.

Jaycubed
27th July 2004, 06:21
didn't Alisonbing have something in her sig a little while ago that was about Lili and Michoko? maybe she would know something about it in a little more accurate detail.

Ally???? come and help us!! :P

Rodrigo
27th July 2004, 06:27
Maybe :bounce: , Ally if u hear us, Please answer, u are our last hope :cheesy:

mot
1st August 2004, 03:52
While I was surfing thru all my pics, I noticed a small detail.
We all know the beach pics, and if I remember correctly there were some doubts wether she wanted these pics taken.
Because on one of the pics she was looking directly at the camera.

Well the guy with the camera is actually her dad, meaning she wasn't aware or didn't want the beach pics taken.

http://users.pandora.be/mot/css/brol/fotomaker.jpg

This doesn't really have much of a point, it's a small detail maybe some of you would be interested in. :-/

jon
1st August 2004, 09:58
^I don't get it, who's taking that picture then?

DavidAlizée
1st August 2004, 10:41
ohhh, so it is from a private album afterall then. Im glad it was her dad and not the press.

loveherfromusa
1st August 2004, 10:48
The "girl" in the photo is me. Makeup artists can do wonders. I couldn't believe she thought I was a girl from the audience.

Snatcher42
1st August 2004, 10:51
ohhh, so it is from a private album afterall then. Im glad it was her dad and not the press.

Has anyone considered that they might have been deliberately "leaked"? I know, not a wonderful thought and probably not true, but well - it's possible.

jon
1st August 2004, 10:56
But who took that shot of her dad taking her picture?

DavidAlizée
1st August 2004, 11:02
that pic may have been taken by her mum ?

jon
1st August 2004, 11:09
but why would they bring an extra camera just to photograph a pic of a pic?

mot
1st August 2004, 13:42
Well the photo might have been taking by papparazzi?

jon
1st August 2004, 13:57
You just said her dad took all the photos. Or did I misread?

DavidAlizée
1st August 2004, 14:14
Her dad would have took some, as he has the camera as in Mots pic. But, maybe the papparazzi did take some of them also. Maybe the ones her dad took havnt been released.. But he defently has a camera, so he must have took some.

BLADEEK
1st August 2004, 16:44
First: I've no clue abou first picture. I think it's fake photo, because girls contours in that picture are to doubtful for me, and looks like usual croping picture in PhotoShop (lasso tool).and it's obviously for me that Alizée has no attidude to that girl. She doesn't looking on her. It looks like it was usual concert (judging the outfit). I think that girl would be very famous, and we would know who is she. Since i know that her last concert was enought ago we'd know who is she till this time!

And I don't have any clue about second picture (again fake looking on Alizée look :mrgreen: )

mot
1st August 2004, 17:05
With the second pic you mean the beach pic? That's not a fake picture. :/

And I strongly doubt the concert pic is a fake too, it's too "perfect".

BLADEEK
1st August 2004, 17:07
Professinals might did them.... :wink:

mot
1st August 2004, 17:27
In my opinion: no way! :r

Ayan
1st August 2004, 18:11
The first time i saw this 'concertpic', was on a wallpaper. So well, i guess there is a good chance it "might" be a fake.

http://img35.exs.cx/img35/3648/01dsafa1.jpg


Coz.. the way the dancer is almost leaning towards Alizée... looks rather strange.

mot
1st August 2004, 18:33
Then that girl in the upper left corner on the pole is fake too?

junior_151
1st August 2004, 21:10
At first I was thinking it was a real pic but after Ayan posted the wallpaper It kinda seemed that it would be a fake but it just looks too good to be a fake.

BLADEEK
1st August 2004, 21:15
Ohh...after I that there was wallpaper like that I'm almost completely sure that the picture was [b]fake[/b 8) ]

mot
1st August 2004, 23:19
How come you're sure?? I absolutely see no flaw or error on the orginal pic. The wallpaper doesn't prove a thing.

And I've seen more pics with thesame pole with nobody on it. So it's definately a part of the set.

Think about it... If someone photoshopped that girl on it, she had to be in the right position, have you looked at that position? (left hand on pole, sitting on bar, legs crossed around it)
How can you take that position without that pole?

It ain't fake.

Alw
1st August 2004, 23:41
i'd say real, look at her feed, i think it's pretty hard to find a picture on google or whatever that fits into that, and the lites of course, it'll take some time, maybe too long, so anyone would spend time on faking that..... :>

N1ght
2nd August 2004, 00:41
omg thats confusing..... ^^
but what about the first pic now?

junior_151
2nd August 2004, 03:09
Yay always posted!!!!! :cheesy:

alisonbing
2nd August 2004, 09:49
iy is michoko for sure !

squeaky ladida
2nd August 2004, 19:16
omg, alison speaks!! :cheesy: :cheesy:
so.... it isn't fake?
and who is michoko anyway?
ugh, i swear somebody's told me... can't recall though

DavidAlizée
2nd August 2004, 19:51
she is a dancer i think.. thats all i know

mot
2nd August 2004, 20:23
Michoko doesn't appear in the list of the dancers. But it could be a nickname?

squeaky ladida
2nd August 2004, 20:26
wait, there's a list of dancers too?

Moco
2nd August 2004, 21:53
http://www.alizee-forum.com/galerie/data/media/80/21.jpg

I believe Michoko is Laetitia Broqua. Ally, please correct me if I'm wrong! :wink:

squeaky ladida
3rd August 2004, 00:56
I believe Michoko is Laetitia Broqua.

huh? Different names? *confuzzled*

mot
3rd August 2004, 01:04
It seems that Michoko and Laetitia Broqua are thesame person. It's her nickname!

Ally cleared this up on msn, she knows because she has met her!

Thanks for clearing that up Ally!



(But we still don't know what Alizée is holding) :/

DavidAlizée
3rd August 2004, 01:17
Im sure she must have got close to the crowd and kind of like walked along touching everyones hands... maybe someone from the crowd put it in her hand as a gift, and she held onto it.. Or she walked along and picked it up off ths stage that someone put there... But this still doesnt explain what it is...

Must be a drink in a glass of some sort. The bottom of the glass sort of curles out, so it must be a glass.

squeaky ladida
3rd August 2004, 04:36
Michoko's hot
so is Laetitia
:P :P

mot
3rd August 2004, 16:16
Okay I have another one. This is the poster in ActuAlizée 7.

http://users.pandora.be/mot/css/brol/poster7.jpg

But did anyone ever pull that hard she fell off the stage? Look how unstable she's standing.
I can imagine if I ever held her hand, I'd never let go!

Petsku1
3rd August 2004, 16:24
would you really be so rude and stop her performing? :P

Ayan
3rd August 2004, 16:40
^^Unstable, yes. Maybe its the fans, who are holding Her from falling down.

DavidAlizée
3rd August 2004, 17:04
yes but, all it takes is one person to pull her hand instead of letting go, and could probably fall and may twist her back. But.. i think everyone would more than likely let go

Ayan
3rd August 2004, 17:23
You are being too dramatical. Im sure there are tens of helpful hands nearby, ready to catch Her, before She would even touch the ground.
: )

DavidAlizée
3rd August 2004, 17:27
mmm, yeah true.. i guess they would catch her incase she fell...

N1ght
3rd August 2004, 18:31
hmm... there is some kind of stuff these punkrock fans always do... how do they call it... ahh yes Stagediving ;)

Moco
3rd August 2004, 22:57
If someone tried to pull her offstage, the security guards would drag your ass out. I'm sure they're even more watchful of potential disruptions when Alizée touches hands with the fans in the front row. Especially since the securty guards stand between the stage and crowd, there wouldn't be much distance to cover if something did happen.

DavidAlizée
3rd August 2004, 23:02
yep true... but if something did happen, it will be in a split second, and it will be too late.. The only thing they can do then is ..like you said, drag ur ass out. However.. this is very doubtful as fans of Alizée wouldnt do such a thing

N1ght
3rd August 2004, 23:21
but come on guys, wouldnt it be funny "Alizee surfing on the hands of her fans"
oh sry i'm starting to dream again

*note to myself: dont dream too much while ur awake*

mot
3rd August 2004, 23:37
but come on guys, wouldnt it be funny "Alizee surfing on the hands of her fans"

I'd rather not! I don't even wanne think where some hands would be! >:/

squeaky ladida
3rd August 2004, 23:39
^oooh, never thought about that in the sense of a girl...
*realizes that it's only been guys that i've seen do that*

yeah, and accidents happen, and apparantly she's hasn't got the strongest back

DavidAlizée
3rd August 2004, 23:45
lol mot.... and wow, i didnt know about her back..

mot
3rd August 2004, 23:46
Even gods have weaknesses =(

squeaky ladida
3rd August 2004, 23:48
godesses too :wink:

everyone has flaws, but her other traits and qualities greatly overshadow them in this case
but she's just as prone to things like a bad back as the rest of us

Jaycubed
7th August 2004, 04:26
well she's perfect of course but she is real we have to remember as well, and i agree with mot on the crowd surfing bit

Joseph
7th August 2004, 07:28
My back is rather weak, i'm like one of those old men :)
very comforting to know about Alizée ^^)

Piece Of Paradise
7th August 2004, 08:49
Must be some overzealous fan offering Alizée a drink.

????????????????? :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

DavidAlizée
10th March 2005, 19:41
http://img11.exs.cx/img11/3308/enfoires001ttt8cw.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

This is Alizée right ? Guess i must have missed this nice little pic.

tern
11th March 2005, 00:49
It must be. That little strand of hair and her age are dead giveaways. Such an old photo too.... nice!

Moco
11th March 2005, 08:58
Not quite as old as you seem to imply. It's from Les Enfoirés 2001. And I just realized that it she's wearing the same purple see-through top she wears in one of her photoshoots:

http://img83.exs.cx/img83/6783/alizee95511.th.jpg (http://img83.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img83&image=alizee95511.jpg)