View Full Version : Alizée an Inspiration to Learn French?
Joseph
23rd June 2004, 04:09
Have any of you studied/taken classes of French on behalf of Alizée, to better understand, or pronounce her glorious music? I'm going to next year hopefully, and I'm getting some "Learn French Easy" type books from the used book store near my house. ^^)
Just imagine not mocking but actually singing along with her with flawless pronunciation!
And although I am kind embaressed to say so, I've always said, "Al-i-zee"
What is the correct way to say her name in her native language?
squeaky ladida
23rd June 2004, 04:24
I've already been taking french for 3 years
Alizée was the first time i actually used french for something i truly enjoyed
it is just more of an inspiration to continue learning the language for me
and i believe it's pronounced Aliz-ay almost.... i can't really spell it out for ya
but the é makes the "e" sound go higher at the end instead of lower or flat
hmm... but i've heard it pronounced.... *checks more vids*
yeah, it's aliz-ey or aliz-eh don't know really how to write it down
Joseph
23rd June 2004, 04:40
ok thanks.
Eukie
23rd June 2004, 05:49
Heh, I have been on and of studying languages for years. Did an intro the German once, and that was the last official language thing I did (god, that was 8 years ago!)
I recently picked up French again (let's say... a year ago), and studying on my own using a plethora of resources, including froncophone friends (invaluable for practicing). I'm in a tech school right now, though, and working 2 jobs, simply for the purpose of getting into a university (I took the German course back at a small college when I was doing some credit work).
It certianly comes easier when you immerse yourself in it, and being a fan of Alizée certainly helps :) I still make plenty of goofs, though, and you always will while learning. I am by no means advanced, either, but I can read and follow well enough now. Kind of late for me to get into, I think, my frist girlfriend was French, it might have helped me back then :lol:
Isn't this a bit Off-Topic, too? :)
Joseph
23rd June 2004, 06:38
yes:( didn't notice i posted it here, ill delete it if I can.
Joseph
23rd June 2004, 06:40
hmm a mod will have to, i don't see any options. sorry again. ^^)
Leetz0r
23rd June 2004, 07:08
im just illiterate and i can't learn french .. im barely hanging on with english.. and im in an english country.. damn those Gaming Years stuffed me up.
Ayan
23rd June 2004, 09:20
Ahemm... I started to study french because of Alizée. She is the biggest motivation ever. I took a french-course for newbies in some school. Now im keeping myself busy with some self-study french programs, and hopefully i can continue my language studies in school in autumn.
So i wish you all the best in your french studies. Its easy, as long as you have the neccessary motivation.
I've been getting french in school for about 8 years. But I never payed much attention, Since I've know Alizée I bought a program to help me study French, and French is now my favourite subject in school!
And I've downloaded Pimsleur Lessons, I heard they help alot
And I think you pronounce it: Alizé, just listen to all the interviews, doubt it's something like Alizay.
Anyway, go for it and study it as hard as you can, French is the language of the Angels ;x
AliZee4ever <3
23rd June 2004, 12:05
ill try to explaine how to pronounce Alizee. Ill try to do in my language :)
ok in Lithaunian language one letter means one sound. for explaine word "like", there is four letters(four sounds). in my language letter "L" is same like in english, "i" pronounce like "i" in this word "sit", "k" - same, and "e" - like "let", and then u say all these four sound u have word :) Why did i speak about pronouncion in my language? ok, the same way are pronouncing Alizee. "A" (wAtch), "L" (same), "I" (sIt), "z" (same), "ée" is like one stressed "e" (Let). Ali-ze u should accent secound part of word.
p.s. my english sux, so maybe u dont understand my explaine :cheesy:
Joseph
23rd June 2004, 12:09
I understand Comepletley AliZee4ever! Thanks!
Artszfar
23rd June 2004, 14:24
I just started about a month ago. Alizee makes me want to learn it. I'm teaching myself for now. "French For Dummies" is a good book because it provide the pronunciation underneath the French word.
Is the way to pronunce Alizée is Ah-lee-zay?
My language makes me pronunce it A-lee-zee-ye :roll:
AliZee4ever <3
23rd June 2004, 15:32
Is the way to pronunce Alizée is Ah-lee-zay?
My language makes me pronunce it A-lee-zee-ye :roll:
Read ^^ post :)
Petsku1
23rd June 2004, 15:39
haha..with your pronounciations ...can that really be so hard? :mrgreen:
yup me's studying french also cos of Lili 8) though i started it in high-school before i get to know her... but i have advanced 90% of it with using those self-study progs :mrgreen:
Jaycubed
23rd June 2004, 17:36
I need to get my hands on them quickly
Backinblack
23rd June 2004, 17:49
First off, this topic was moved to the Opinions/Questions section.
Second, "Alizée", like all French words, is pronounced with equal stress on all syllables. This is sometimes difficult for English speakers who are used to stressing parts of words. If I'm talking about her in English I tend to stress the first syllable, but in pure French they're all equal. Pronouncing her name using English phonetics: "A" = a as in father, "li" = lee, with the French pronunciation of the letter 'l' (tip of the tongue behind the front two teeth), and "zée" as in zay (the accent on an é like that always gives it a long 'a' sound).
Third, while I started studying French long before I knew about her, she has certainly helped me over the past year or so. She's probably the one who gave me the extra incentive to push for a master's degree in French. 8)
Prometheus
23rd June 2004, 21:18
I had also studied french for some time before I found out about Alizée, but she brought back my inspiration for the language.
UK Fan 2003
23rd June 2004, 21:32
Studied French now for 6 years! Thanks to Alizée my french is now even better! :lol:
Hopefully once I leave school and go to college or Uni, I hope to teach French to kids my age in the future....I hope so anyway :roll:
Moco
23rd June 2004, 21:36
You're damn right she's an inspiration. Before I knew about Alizée, I was really ignorant about anything French, especially the language. But since then, I've taken two semesters of French at school and before that I started teaching myself with books and websites.
I studied Spanish in high school for 4 years, so that helped me a bit in learning French. But in all those 4 years, I don't think I was ever as good at speaking or understanding Spanish as I am with French. So, yes, having an inspiration makes learning something much easier and a lot more fun.
squeaky ladida
23rd June 2004, 22:27
"zée" as in zay (the accent on an é like that always gives it a long 'a' sound).
ha! I win!!
another way to think of the é is like the "ey" in "hey" which is the same as the ay in hay[/list]
Joseph
24th June 2004, 05:15
thanks BackinBlack, i could'nt do that myself :/
Joseph
24th June 2004, 05:18
ack:( im going to bed now...;-;
haloraven
24th June 2004, 09:34
Yup I started learning french here and there...lol i dont know much...but a good place to start would be a community college....another good place to learn is http://www.frenchassistant.com/default.asp its free as well.....lol right now i just learned the numbers and months...days ect. ect.
AlizéeInMYHeart
24th June 2004, 09:39
I haven't still had the time to learn french :(
damn this civil service crap and other things that takes up my time right now :(
Joseph
24th June 2004, 14:08
Well, you should do what I then... Pronounce the first few letters of the word, and then stop.
^^)
Artszfar
24th June 2004, 14:13
Yup I started learning french here and there...lol i dont know much...but a good place to start would be a community college....another good place to learn is http://www.frenchassistant.com/default.asp its free as well.....lol right now i just learned the numbers and months...days ect. ect.
That's one good site. Merci!
Max_07s
24th June 2004, 16:31
hey artszfar..I'm back after one week..its so boring in college..too busy with my register..so I'm not log in about a week.. I'm trying to register French Language for my subject..but i dont have a time yet..hope I can do it next week...hey..nice to meet newbie fan.... :D
Artszfar
24th June 2004, 20:29
^ I thought something bad happened to you. :cheesy:
Basic French - does the class teach completely in French? (The normal conversation, explanation by the lecturer)
Orion
25th June 2004, 00:45
Alizée is an inspiration, period. She inspires me to learn French, ofcourse. I have 3 of the best recognized programs for learning French w/video conversation too. I will finally start in July. Heck I even bought the original director's cut of "Le Grande Bleu" just because it was her favourite movie. Most of all, she inspires me to be a nice guy :mrgreen: 8)
squeaky ladida
25th June 2004, 01:11
^ I thought something bad happened to you. :cheesy:
Basic French - does the class teach completely in French? (The normal conversation, explanation by the lecturer)
it can, but it seriously depends on the course/teacher
and of course, being dropped into the middle of france would also help as well, but it's nice to have a teacher explain the system of conjugations and such
AliZee4ever <3
25th June 2004, 08:28
"zée" as in zay (the accent on an é like that always gives it a long 'a' sound).
ha! I win!!
another way to think of the é is like the "ey" in "hey" which is the same as the ay in hay[/list]
yeah i listened a lot and understand that is not "e", but next letter in Lithuanian alphabet "e" with point under it :)
btw im better in English when i LT, cos i get mark 8-10 from English dictation , and only 4-6 from Lithuanian dictation :D lol, LT grammer sux, and its almost to all Lithuanians :) I read English text faster then LT, because there is only few words compared to LT and there are many word prefix, particle, word endings and so on (for explaine word "begti"(run), apibegti(run around sthg), pabegti(run away(expl. from jail)), nubegti(run some distance), uzbegti(run under), nubegti(run down), ibegti(run into), isbegti(run out), and much others... that was only word prefix so u can imagine how hard is LT) :D Speaking is easy, but i have never seen foreigner who speaks LT correctly (not accent, but saying sentence correctly) :)
I'm only fluent in one language besides English and am working on a second one (neither are French).
I think if I learned French, I'd actually appreciate her music less. If I could understand her lyrics then I'd get caught up in the meaning of the song and it would distract me from her voice. That's the reason why I don't listen to many songs in English.
Joseph
25th June 2004, 09:44
ooo... i get what your saying.... *reconsiders*
But I have to tell you, when I loaded up Xalakads mix today, I knew that it was, "Its not my fault" "its not my fault im a lolita"
I know the whole ordeal with lolita so lets not get into that ^^)
What's Xalakad? And what does the rest of the post after that mean?
Sorry, it's late here. (Yes I know it's later in Texas, but it is still late here too) :cheesy:
Joseph
25th June 2004, 10:15
Xalakad has an awesome rythm coupled with Alizée awesome voice... here let me see if I can find the link...
Joseph
25th June 2004, 10:21
hmmm It's on a page where you can download a bunch of music, mostly remixes... I don't have the link anymore,maybe someone else does.
haloraven
25th June 2004, 11:12
think of it this way....1. your learning an new language...GOOD by default....2. Its a beautiful language anyway and truly not that complex....3. Its something to brag about in conversation...4. The ladies will love you ...speaking all sexxy...5. The french language is BY FAR the best language to cus in...the word flow so smoothly.. ^^
Joseph
25th June 2004, 11:17
awesome! So your saying it's easier than German? I've been in German for 3 years, and it isn't getting any easier :/
AliZee4ever <3
25th June 2004, 11:31
i can say, french is harder then english, easier then russian. in french is harder to understand words from speech then in german, but about grammer i cant say cos i dont learn german
Artszfar
25th June 2004, 13:41
French is harder because they have this 'liaison' - a phenomenon that when listening to French conversation, it sounded like a great big long word. The last consonant of a word is linked with the vowel which begins the following word.
Ayan
25th June 2004, 17:28
I think it makes the whole language a lot more beautiful. Besides, its not so hard to pronounce it.
Like this one time in HitMachine, when this guy kinda misread the MCE title at first, but succeeded to make it look right via this 'liaison' thingie...
" mè kuro: .... zéléktrik "
Artszfar
25th June 2004, 21:23
^Of course... so unique too.
squeaky ladida
26th June 2004, 05:34
meh, try listening to street talk and slang all slapped into one....
but many languages are hard to decipher when actually put into real use, like conversation with someone who is totally fluent and has been speaking the language since s/he was born
it tends to take a while to get to that level... lol
Piece Of Paradise
27th June 2004, 11:01
I may take up French two years from now when I'll be less busy. It's a nice language.
AliZee4ever <3
27th June 2004, 20:16
meh, try listening to street talk and slang all slapped into one....
but many languages are hard to decipher when actually put into real use, like conversation with someone who is totally fluent and has been speaking the language since s/he was born
it tends to take a while to get to that level... lol
dont be so sure :) i can speak english pretty well(i have trouble with articles :mrgreen: ), although my language is very different form English, there is different sentence modulation. the best way to understand language is listen to that language songs, like i did all my life (now time comes for french) :mrgreen: , because there is only shity pop in LT, pffff i hate it :twisted:
Max_07s
29th June 2004, 16:11
I want to take a Frech class yesterday..but it's already full..argh..so now I have to learn it from book...artzfar..u r progress is quite well...eheehhe....and my english..is not excellent..but its still ok...
Artszfar
29th June 2004, 16:17
Merci! (mehr-see) :mrgreen:
No I'm not good as you think.
squeaky ladida
29th June 2004, 20:26
lol
go paradrop into the middle of france, that'll help ya tons :p
Artszfar
30th June 2004, 04:00
^lol :cheesy:
haloraven
1st July 2004, 07:32
HAHAH, yeah when forced to learn a language...or hell ANYTHING for that matter, you tend to catch on rather fast when survival is your main concern.
Artszfar
1st July 2004, 14:05
True! :cheesy:
haloraven
2nd July 2004, 05:57
VERY
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