WRC Rally of France

[a.c. ajaccio]

I don't know if any of you guys watch the rallying but I do, and the rally of France is coming up soon (starting 16th october). Obviously its in Corsica but do you think Alizee will be at it? Perhaps she will be performing like she did at the tour de france! Its a long shot but im gonna record all the tv coverage of it just in case :D :D Hopefully I can go to watch it sometime because I'd really like to go to Corsica, it seems like a nice place.

[Nikodemus]

Corsica Rally is nice asphalt rally. Marcus Grönholm will take his first or hopefully second asphalt victory there. Panizzi is always good on asphalt but this rally will be Grönholm's. Go Grönholm!! Go Peugeot!!

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

Yes Grönholm will win!

And I'm gonna se all the TV coverage that I can find. Have been doing that in all the rallies.

Would also like to go and see the corsica rally sometime

[Nikodemus]

I'm also watching all possible rally on TV and I listen to rally radio and watch Live Event Dashboard in wrc.com during the rally

[a.c. ajaccio]

Im hoping richard burns does well but I think seba loeb will win.

[unreal]

I also wish very well to Marcus but at the moment he unfortunately wont fight for his own.He said the most important is the team title.And i think it will be very hard to win on tarmac. Many drivers won this season so i cant foresee the results.Probably Burns will be on the podium:)Maybe Loeb?Hes in a great form and Sollberg as well.Who knows?But i also cant wait for them...

And the main service of the rally is located in Ajaccio.Maybe Alizee will honour with her appearance all the fans?

Nikodemus wrote he is watching standings in wrc.com/radio.And im doing completely different.Im trying to avoid any sports news untill the midnight programm in Eurosport:)But more often im not successful in that...

[Nikodemus]

Richard Burns is not very good driver especially on asphalt. Grönholm can drive fast on both surfaces. Panizzi and Loeb are fast on asphalt.

[toni_buenrollito]

Oh I don't think that Alizée is in this rally...
Guys, you've forgotten Carlos Sainz, twice worldchampion...

[Nikodemus]

Marcus Grönholm is double worldchampion too and he have been driving better than anyone during last three years.

[toni_buenrollito]

yes, but this year everything is going to change....

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

Marcus will win the rally, no doubt about that. The battle for the second place is gonna be hard,between loeb, panizzi, sainz and maybe McRae. Solberg and Märtin will fight hard with rovanperä and mäkinen for the places a bit down (5-8).

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

oh, and about Burns, he will (unfortunately for some, but not for me) not make it to the finnish.

[Nikodemus]

Marcus will take his third WRC title this year.

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

And no one can stop him!

[Nikodemus]

Marcus will win all four remaining rallies

[toni_buenrollito]

Marcus will win all four remaining rallies

oh it would be very hard....

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

not hard at all, Marcus could do that with one arm and the eyes closed ( or maybe not :D )

But he will win them all, just watch him

[Nikodemus]

He will do it like he have done it year 2000 and 2002

[toni_buenrollito]

let's see guys....

[Nikodemus]

"If you wanna win take a Finn"

[unreal]

Yeah Sainz is in great form this season and has a big chance to get the title.
Changing rules caused the championships became very interesting.About 6 drivers have still the chance to win.One of the favourites in the coming tarmac races is also Panizzi-the asphalt king-but after back injury last season his form is not the greatest.Its a pity Puras isnt competing.He is also very fast on tarmac.
As u probably heard Colin was fired by Citroen bosses.Unfotunately so good driver probably wont start in next season.He said he wont compete in weak teams.Is this his end?I hope not...

[Nikodemus]

In Finland we call him "Kilin' Colin McRae", because he can't stay on the road.
I think it is boring that Hyundai will take a break. They will return 2006. There is too few car makes in WRC. I would like to see Audi and Lancia returning to the WRC.

[unreal]

Colin is always pressing pedal to the metal and thats why his accidents are always spectacural.The rule letting the teams having only 2 drivers is annoying.So many drivers will be fired...Hyundai takes a break?One more team wont compete in wrc series.Thats a pity.But mitsubishi is returning unfortunately without alister.Few years ago withrawed seat now hyundai so the amount of wrc cars is tightening up...Lancia delta integrale, Audi quatro and peugeot 205 were superb cars without power limit.Drivers almost couldnt control those monsters...

[Nikodemus]

Only Flying Finns were able to push those cars to the limid. Hundreds of horsepowers in a very light car.

[unreal]

I remember my two old favourites vatanen and kankunnen also Mikkola,allen and not the finns-Biassion,Rohrl,waldegard,blomqvist,eriksonn and many more:)

[Nikodemus]

And Timo Salonen 1985 World Champion with Peugeot 205 Turbo 16

[unreal]

:) Exactly.

How do You think were those old championships more interesting than todays?

I started to interest that only few years ago and cant answer to that question but know not bad history of wrc...

[Nikodemus]

Then cars had much more power and drivers needed bit more skill but WRC hasn't changed as much as F1 has.

[unreal]

Yes todays cars are full of electronics but also nowadays there is a need to be skilled for example Marko and Petter.One of them can be even champion this year...Old crew slowly is retiring.Pity to Tommi-hes not that old but lack of motivation and successes-the same to Hakkinen:(

[a.c. ajaccio]

Hey, you guys from finland wouldn't be slightly biased towards your countrymen would you??? (colin mcrae's still got the best computer game lol!)

[Nikodemus]

Well that is only thing where he is the best.

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

I have heard that Colin McRae is trying to start a own team that would drive in the championship. He would make it a family team cause the other driver would be his brother, Alistair. He has not yet got the permission I think, but he is trying really hard to get it before the next season starts.

Or is all this just rumors??

[Nikodemus]

I read that too. It could be interesting. "McRae Bros. Racing" or something

[a.c. ajaccio]

well if he doesnt make his own team he won't have a drive for next season, nobody else wants to employ him!

[BLADEEK]

Scuderia is a good team
I make some answers very close to their topic as this2
Fuuny isn't???

[Mr. Burt]

Is this rally much like "Cannonball Run"?????

[Vox Populi]

I want to meet Bladeek, he is most powerful Alizee fan in Europe, he sounds cool.

[Nikodemus]

Is this rally much like "Cannonball Run"?????

Are you serious? WRC is World Rally Champioship (http://www.wrc.com/en_GB/default.htm)

[unreal]

Today starts san remo rally with super stage.A tarmac one.Any predictions?

[Nikodemus]

Peugeot will be the fastest. And Marcus will be tha fastest Peugeot.

[Nikodemus]

This weekend is the final of Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters (DTM) series. I think Bernd Schneider will win the championship because he has much more experience than Albers. And Bernd is also better driver.

[unreal]

As i predicted Seba is on the best way to win.But Peugeots have problem with setups thats why they`re struggling beside Marcus-very fast.
Colin wanna race and he told he can even change his profesion-for TOCA or smth.

[Nikodemus]

Well there is one and half days left in the rally. Gap between Marcus and Markko is not very big.

[toni_buenrollito]

In san remo, Loeb and Sainz are running quite well. soon, sainz will be with only two points less that the current leader of the championship.

[toni_buenrollito]

CITROËN RULES!!!

[a.c. ajaccio]

I think Loeb will do well in corsica too. Whoever does well in the san remo rally will continue their form into the next two rallies, which will be very important.

[Nikodemus]

Peugeot is the best. 206 is now a bit old and Focus is very good. New Peugeot 307 WRC will be new winnig car. I don't understand what is wrong with Panizzi. He doesn't drive as fast as he should. And Loeb has been fast during this season. If he wins he'll have 55 points just like Burns has now.

[toni_buenrollito]

right now, my favourite for the championship is a Citroën driver, Loeb or Sainz. Why? Because the txo following rallies are Corsica and spain and in both ground is asphalt. Citroën is the best in asphalt.

[Nikodemus]

But Peugeot has the best driver. Marcus Grönholm. Go Marcus!!
Ford Focus is very fast. That is the only reason why Märtin is 2nd

[Nikodemus]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Grönholm is out!!!
He retired on the last SS. He was third when retired. Sebastian Loeb won and he is second in the championship standings.

[toni_buenrollito]

Now, Burns - 57 points,
Loeb - 55 points
Sainz - 53 points.

Very exciting!

[unreal]

Ive only just watched last day of the rally.Panizzi showed his big class with tactic-I donno how it would be look like in mitsubishi next year-its not that good as small peugeot...I predicted loebs win-he will be champion-no one can catch him.Burns/sainz are worse on tarmac,martin too big points gap between them.New generation quickly push the old guards out.

[Nikodemus]

New 307 WRC will change things to the good old way. Marcus wins and others just drive.

[a.c. ajaccio]

I think mitsubishi will be good next season, they've had a whole year to test out the car and they were competitive before so they will be even better now.

[BLADEEK]

And McLaren F1 is the best one!!!!!!

[blitzgsr1997]

In the U.S.A we dont have to many rally racing but i do watch it alot on tv.. I admire how the driver skills show.Thanks god the wrx STi and mitsubishy evolution have finaly come to the states..

[BLADEEK]

And in Ukraine 2

[Nikodemus]

Now this topic should be alive because WRC Rally of France - Corsica Rally is on. Sebastian is leading right now but Marcus will win the rally.
Go Peugeot!!! Go Marcus!!!

edit: Interesting incidents in the Rally. Loeb and Märtin are out points.

[Nikodemus]

Petter Solberg won Rallye de France: Tour de Corse
Sainz was second and Francois Duval third. Grönholm was fourth. Damn!
Sainz is leading the championship.

[toni_buenrollito]

I have warned us: Sainz is a fantastic and experienced driver. He can win the worldchampionship. And now, Sainz will drive at home (next rally is in Spain)

[Nikodemus]

This new point scale is stupid.

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

yeah, back to the old 10-6-4-3-2-1 scale

[Nikodemus]

The scale should respect winning.

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

yeah. no it's not that important to win a rally, cause the winner only gets 2 more points that the second. Should have at least 4 points different (like the old had) or even higher

[toni_buenrollito]

which is the new point scale??

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1

[Nikodemus]

just like in F1

[toni_buenrollito]

just like in F1

That of F1 I knew. I think is not so unfair, although the best would be:
10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

[Nikodemus]

But then victory would be almost worthless

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

that would not be the best. if the scale would be that, then a victory would almost mean nothing!

[toni_buenrollito]

It's very important also be second, the championship must praise the regularity

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

maybe this scale: 20-10-6-4-2-1

then a victory would mean quite much :D :D

[toni_buenrollito]

buff it's enough ;)

[Nikodemus]

In MotoGP it is 25-20-16-13-11-10-9-8 and so on
but this doesn't work in WRC or F1 because there is not enought cars to drive whole championship season

[toni_buenrollito]

In MotoGP it is 25-20-16-13-11-10-9-8 and so on
but this doesn't work in WRC or F1 because there is not enought cars to drive whole championship season

they are different races... Maybe the best would be by time!!!!

[Nikodemus]

Well anyway. new point system is this what it is and we have to live it.
I hope it will be dry in Catalunya.

[toni_buenrollito]

I hope it will rain!!

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

me too. It's much more interesting when it rains

[toni_buenrollito]

It happens a lot of things when it rains...

[Nikodemus]

Come on! Pirelli is better on wet road. Peugeot and Citroën use Michelins.
It is a bit weird Peugeot and Citroën are PSA groups brands and they compete against each other.

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

doesn't even Grönholm himself always that it would rain when it's a tarmac rally. It increases his chances to win (al though he would win without rain too)

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

or am I mixing up Grönholm's and Mäkinen's thoughts. Think I am :D

[Nikodemus]

Loeb and Märtin crashed when the road was wet. And Grönholm's speed wasn't as good as it could hace been.

[unreal]

The Sollberg performance was brilliant-first win on tarmac.And the championship points is totally overturned now so unappreciative sainz can win the title :)Old good Carlos-why not :)And sure Loeb and Martin made so stupid mistakes...

And not everybody is happy with the new points scale but FIA chiefs said the F1 interest is increased-and either i used to new scale-Im satisfied too more weak teams can get some points :)But minardi is so weak-didnt get even one point--sorry to them...

[unreal]

Colin is probably is supposed to drive in Nascar series...

Besides i saw rovanpera testing new Peugeot-Special winning car i think next season-looks like ferrari...

[Nikodemus]

They have same sponsor and almost same colour. Turbocharged 2 litre engine 300 hp 580 Nm and it weights only 1230 kg

[Rodrigo]

Makinen going to win :D

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

Catalunya rally has started!

btw, Mäkinen drives his second last race in his career. I really hope that he wins one of the last two races, so he get a worthy ending on his great career

[toni_buenrollito]

Provisional rank:

But still it can happen many many things... Citroën is showing his power in asphalt.

1 Loeb 55:09.9
2 SAINZ a 11.0
3 Märtin a 21.7
4 Burns a 30.0
5 Panizzi a 37.6
6 McRae a 44.7
7 Duval

[Nikodemus]

Damn! Marcus is 11th. But he will drive rest of the special stages fast enought to get much points

[toni_buenrollito]

It can be possible. Let's wait...

[Nikodemus]

Peugeot is very fast when Marcus is behind the wheel

[Nikodemus]

French drivers are going to win in Catalunya. Loeb and Panizzi are leading and only 3 special stages left

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

Hopefully Loeb will win the Championship this year!!

[Nikodemus]

Yep. I don't want Burns Sainz or Märtin to win it.

[Nikodemus]

ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE! Gillez Panizzi won the rally!!!!! Peugeot is the BEST!!!!! Marcus was sixth.

[toni_buenrollito]

OOPs....

Now the world championship is sooooooo close....
I think Solberg will win, Subaru is a great car in the conditions of RAC.

[Nikodemus]

I support Loeb to the champion. Next year is Grönholm's turn again. Like he said, he is very successful only every second year.

[unreal]

This rally was exiting indeed.My favorite Seba got 18 points from possible 30 in tarmac races so the finish of the championships is the most interesting in history...Quality of the pirellis on wet conditions is impossible...

[Nikodemus]

Now RAC will be very interesting season final

[unreal]

Another rally series?

[Nikodemus]

The Rally of Great Britain is called RAC rally

[unreal]

Aha now its clear donno the shortcut :) Yes im looking forward that.i donno if u`ve mentioned here but in next years callendar there will be 16 races-for example mexico.Should be interesting especially the performance of new peugeot.Pity that Hyundai is withdrawing for two years...

[Nikodemus]

I think next year's WRC calendar should have atlest one rally in Africa. New very beautiful 307 WRC will rule next seasons

[unreal]

Yeah i miss safari rally-but think that at least for now there is no chance to return it back...

Ps Niko i wonder if we can use virtual spectator in wrc.com during or after the rally?

[Nikodemus]

Sorry I don't know much about virtual spectator.
McRae is not driving next year so he can continue as a plumbing and heating engineer like he was before his WRC career.

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

So he didn't get the license to start a own team with his brother then.... that's a pity

[toni_buenrollito]

Makkinen is going to retire this year. RAC will be his last race.

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

Yep, I hope he will get a worthy ending on his great career. That will say, let him at least reach the finish

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

Hopefully he will win!!!

[toni_buenrollito]

Really. Makkinen has been a very important driver at the worlchampionship of rallies, so it would be great if he finishes his career with a good performance at England.

[unreal]

No Makinen no Mcrae no Hyundai with Schwarz no alister.Pity...But 16 races :)

[Nikodemus]

and new 307 WRC. I'm wondering when Citroën will make new car. I'm pretty sure they will make WRC car based on civil C4 but there is no C4 yet so it will take pretty much time.

[toni_buenrollito]

Besides, Burns won't be at the RAC. Thus, he won't be able to be champion. Loeb, Sainz, Solberg, who will win...?

[unreal]

Why not Burns?Maybe his performance was too bad and decided to withdraw earlier before his contract ends...He just couldnt suit to Peugeot or inversely...

The Subaru somehow suited better that why he`s returning...

[Nikodemus]

The doctors have told Richard Burns not to drive the rally.More in www.wrc.com

[toni_buenrollito]

yep. he is supposed to be sick...

[Nikodemus]

Not very nice end for Richard's season. Especially when Burns had pretty chances to the title.

[toni_buenrollito]

yes, not many chances, but, anyway, he is a great driver.

[Nikodemus]

now Citroën has very good chance to take 1st and 2nd place in drivers' championship and also win the manufacturers' title. Peugeot has only one really good driver on gravel (Marcus) in RAC.

[toni_buenrollito]

yep, but in gravel Peugeot is better than Citroen. Definitely, he had chances to be champion, even though my favourite was Solberg.

[MAX-240]

i will show you rally of golf sooooooon

[Nikodemus]

Season final. RAC rally will start today. No special stages today but it will start.

[toni_buenrollito]

Yes, last rally of the year starts today!!!

[Nikodemus]

Great Britain rally in Cardif will be the last WRC rally of Tommi Mäkinen - the 4 time world champion. One of the best rally drivers ever.

[MAX-240]

i will show you rally of golf sooooooon
sory (gulf) :wink:

[Nikodemus]

today 19.30 GMT they will drive first SS of the rally - Super Specia in Cardiff. it is not a real SS so it is not so important but tomorrow the rally will start

[toni_buenrollito]

yep, what happens today won't be important at the end of the rally.

[a.c. ajaccio]

Great Britain rally in Cardif will be the last WRC rally of Tommi Mäkinen - the 4 time world champion. One of the best rally drivers ever.


yes im sorry to see him go, he was a great champion, unfortunately he wasn't from the U.K!

[Nikodemus]

again I have to quote one great Finnish race driver:
"If you wanna win take a Finn"

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

Nice quote..... and so true :D

[toni_buenrollito]

Makinnen won Carlos Sainz in 1998...
Sainz's car stopped 100 m. before of the finish.... Makinnen realised he was champion when he arrived to Finland...

[Nikodemus]

That was so amazing championship. That's rally.

[toni_buenrollito]

yeah....
By the way. First warning of Solberg. The rank is now:
There are very very little differences!!


1 Solberg 2'08"
2 Martin a 1"4
3 Makinen a 1"8
4 Gronholm a 1"8
5 Sainz a 3"2
6 Loix a 3"3
7 Loeb a 3"3
8 McRae a 3"5
9 Rovanpera a 3"8
10 Hirvonen a 3"8
11 Panizzi a 3"8
12 Duval a 4"0

[Nikodemus]

This is terrible. Grönholm retired. Ctroën will take the champinship. I hope Loeb wins.

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

Me too..... I really hope that Loeb wins, not that I have anything against Solberg

[Nikodemus]

Sébastien Loeb have been driving really good this year. He has as much victories as Marcus Grönholm - 3 but all on tarmac.

[Nikodemus]

Petter Solberg is the World Rally Champion 2003. He won RAC rally. He got 72 points and Loeb only one point behind 71. Citroën won the constructors' championship. Solberg won 4 rallies this year. I hoped Loeb would have won but Solberg was a bit faster in the last rally.
Congratulations!
Tommi Mäkinen's last rally was good. He was third in Cardiff rally.

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

Yep, congratulations to Solberg......

And it was fantastic that Mäkinen got to end his great career like this.....third place :thumbup: :thumbup:

[toni_buenrollito]

OOPs....

Now the world championship is sooooooo close....
I think Solberg will win, Subaru is a great car in the conditions of RAC.

I was rigth!!!!

Congratulations to Solberg. Next year is going to be the last for Sainz, who will leave rallies at the end of 2004.

[Nikodemus]

Richard Burns will not drive the 2004 World Rally Championship season. He has somekind of brain tumour - astrocytoma. Who will replace him in Subaru? Maybe Colin McRae?

[toni_buenrollito]

yes, this disease is a pity for all the World Rally Cham,pionship....
I hope Burns become healthy as soon as possible.

[fernandito]

sure a cerebral tumor... good excuse... ingles tapeworm that to be!

p.d.: zorionak to solberg!! :showoff:

[unreal]

very sorry to richard-but he never gives up-he is a fighter isnt he?
Its time to remove that tumor and back for a year on roads :)

Yep I think its not everything lost for Colin.It would be a veeeery stupid idea not to hire him for a year...

[Nikodemus]

Yes. Maybe C. McRae gets one more season in WRC. But the way it comes is not that nice.

[AS Monaco]

I hope that Richard Burns comes back to WRC soon!!!!

(I wish him the best for his future!!!!!!!!!)


God bless him!

http://globalsemantix.com/fotos/richardburns.jpg

[AlizéeInMYHeart]

or maybe McRae drive for Peugeot...heard that Rovanperä's place there is pretty unstable...or have I heard wrong??

[fernandito]

Rovanpera is worse than a donkey....although normal that you speak of him being you Finnish

[Nikodemus]

Yes. Peugeot wasn't satisfied with Rovanperä's results last season. He got 18 points in six rallies. I don't understand why Peugeot doesn't keep G. Panizzi. He has driven well.

[fernandito]

I agree with you, Nikodemus; G.Panizzi is far better that Rovanpera

[Nikodemus]

(WRC news so I dug this topic out)

Subaru replaces Richard Burns (who can't drive the next season because he has a brain tumour) with Mikko Hirvonen. Last season Hirvonen drove Ford.

[unreal]

Yes i wanna do the same :)

Hirvonen was released but i thought he will be a test driver...And Colin without job unfortunately-too old and not in that good form?

[Nikodemus]

Legendary Paris-Dakar rally will start on new year's day. Nowdays the rally's name is Telefónica Dakar rally. It is one of the longest rallies in the world. This year it's 11 052,5 kilometres long. It starts from Auvergne in France and ends to Dakar in Senegal.

[a.c. ajaccio]

any word on whether colin mc crae has got a car for next season, i dont think so but apparently he's taking part in the paris - dakar too.

[Nikodemus]

McRae won't drive WRC season 2004. He will drive Dakar rally with Nissan.

[unreal]

And what about gran canaria race of champions?It always had place in the beginning of december and was retransmitted later on eurosport?

[Nikodemus]

Race of the Champions was bittersweet this year for Finns. Grönholm lost the final and Loeb won.
ROC was broadcasted in the beginning and the end of december eurosport.

[a.c. ajaccio]

Race of the Champions was bittersweet this year for Finns. Grönholm lost the final and Loeb won.
ROC was broadcasted in the beginning and the end of december eurosport.

Loeb deseved to win something this year, he was the best driver but his team let him down.

[Nikodemus]

I agree. Loeb was excellet. He should have won the championship. But hey, only 23 days to new season.

[toni_buenrollito]

Surprisingly, Colin McRae is taking part of Rally Paris-Dakar. He was 3th few days ago, but now I don't know if he continues in the rally... Anyway, rally Paris-Dakar is maybe the toughest and most dangerous competiton of cars and bikes.

[Nikodemus]

McRae won the 13th stage of the rally. The four-time Dakar-rally winner Finnish Ari Vatanen retired. He hit a tree at high speed.
The rally ends on Sunday.

[Nikodemus]

French Stéphane Peterhansel and navigator Jean-Paul Cottret won the Telefónica Dakar Rally 2004.
Cars' results:
1. Stéphane Peterhansel (Mitsubishi) 53h47m37s
2. Hiroshi Masuoka (Mitsubishi) +49m24s
3. Jean-Louis Schlesser (Schlesser-Ford) +3h00m33s

Spanish Nani Roma won the motorcycles' rally.

[a.c. ajaccio]

driving across a desert on a motor bike :scooter: - must be mad :surprise:

[toni_buenrollito]

French Stéphane Peterhansel and navigator Jean-Paul Cottret won the Telefónica Dakar Rally 2004.
Cars' results:
1. Stéphane Peterhansel (Mitsubishi) 53h47m37s
2. Hiroshi Masuoka (Mitsubishi) +49m24s
3. Jean-Louis Schlesser (Schlesser-Ford) +3h00m33s

Spanish Joan Roma won the motorcycles' rally.

Yeah, Roma won! It's the first time that a spaniard win the Rally Paris Dakar! And Peterhansel has won both in cars(this year) and in bikes (a few years ago).

[Cisse]

wrc monte carlo starts on friday! Who is your favorite?
Mine is sebastien loeb!

[Nikodemus]

My favourites are of course Marcus Grönholm and his co-driver Timo Rautiainen and the new Peugeot 307 WRC! 307 WRC is the newest car and I think it's also the best and the fastest. Marcus won the championship 2000 and 2002. He wins every second year. lol
Loeb was fast last year and I think he will be fast this year too.

[a.c. ajaccio]

I hope Loeb wins this year and peugeot win the manufacturers, felt sorry for seba after last year's mess with team orders...

[unreal]

This topic`s title is a little bit old-time a kinda relic :) Maybe we should replace it "WRC 2004 season"?

Yes at last in the coming weekend we will see drivers in their fast machines:)

No colin no tommi no alister and many more.Many young drivers.My favourite?Only sollberg/loeb/martin/im not sure gronholm-but if the new car will be very fast he will join to favourites...

[Henrik]

Old thread but now its rally of France again, Loeb have won all 8 stages this far, hes really impressing :shock: . www.wrc.com
Its fun that my place were I lives has something incommon with Alizées home, both places hosts a WRC competition :cheesy: It's f*cking amazing to stand 2 meters from a icy and snowy road when a WRC car comes roaring in 200km/h, it's a greeeat feeling! There are 2 happenings here when the kids dont have to go to school, thats when its the Swedish rally and the Moose-hunt :lol:

[Petsku1]

poor ya :P .... ive been watching the Corsica rally just because of the beautiful sceneries.

[Nestonia]

but our loved Estonian driver Markko Märtin will not drive there... he lost his map reader :(